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| th1a | hi yvl, menesis, aelkner, replaceafill. | 16:30 |
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| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:30 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
| yvl | morning guys | 16:33 |
| th1a | First a note on my schedule -- we're going to a beach cottage today through Wednesday afternoon about an hour from here. | 16:33 |
| th1a | So we need to keep this short. Considering the overall situation I'll make the meetings the next two days. | 16:34 |
| th1a | I might need to download an IRC client for Jennifer's iPhone... | 16:34 |
| th1a | But we're not going to be far from civilization (at all). | 16:34 |
| th1a | Also, my sister-in-law's new boyfriend Sasha is with us. He grew up in Leningrad and summered every year in Lithuania. So we've been talking Lithuania. | 16:36 |
| th1a | OK, yvl, would you like to start? | 16:36 |
| yvl | ok | 16:36 |
| th1a | I guess we haven't actually looked at the calendar in a bit. | 16:36 |
| th1a | We should probably do that. | 16:36 |
| yvl | yes, please | 16:36 |
| yvl | I kind of finished it | 16:36 |
| th1a | replaceafill: can we get the demo updated? | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | on it | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | done | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:36660/ | 16:37 |
| th1a | Oh. Looks flourishy. | 16:38 |
| th1a | We need to get rid of the rest of that blue. | 16:39 |
| yvl | interesting stats: it was finished in 3.5 days excluding IRC meeting time (when I was not actually working on it) | 16:39 |
| yvl | or in 4 days, including meeting time | 16:39 |
| yvl | make it gray, th1a ? | 16:39 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:40 |
| yvl | (and could you throw few links you're looking at now?) | 16:40 |
| th1a | Throw? | 16:41 |
| * th1a just threw his socks and underwear in the dryer. | 16:42 | |
| th1a | How do I add an event? | 16:42 |
| th1a | Oh, I'm not logged in. | 16:43 |
| yvl | click on calendar, as before | 16:43 |
| yvl | good point, forgot the Add link | 16:43 |
| th1a | LocationError: (<schooltool.calendar.app.Calendar object at 0xdf91dac>, 'layout.css') | 16:43 |
| aelkner | that means the flourish view isn't defined yet | 16:43 |
| yvl | link please | 16:44 |
| th1a | http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/manager/calendar_selection.html?nexturl=http%3A//69.164.203.135%3A36660/persons/manager/calendar/daily.html | 16:44 |
| yvl | how did you get to that link? | 16:45 |
| yvl | and I'm getting NotFound there, by the way | 16:45 |
| th1a | Yes... wrong link. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Wrong error. | 16:46 |
| th1a | Here's the right error. ;-) | 16:46 |
| th1a | http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/manager/calendar/add.html?field.start_date=2011-08-08&field.start_time=09:00&field.duration=60 | 16:46 |
| yvl | ok, not on my instance | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | do you want me to set a fresh Data.fs? | 16:48 |
| yvl | no | 16:48 |
| yvl | hmm | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | rev 3050 | 16:48 |
| yvl | very weird | 16:49 |
| yvl | ok, let's move on for now and get back to calendars later | 16:49 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:49 |
| yvl | some merging problem probably | 16:49 |
| th1a | Basically the look is good. | 16:50 |
| th1a | Get rid of the blue, and I'll be happy. | 16:50 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 16:50 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Fourth/gradebook/index.html?sort_by=student | 16:51 |
| aelkner | nevet mind | 16:51 |
| yvl | replaceafill - can't reproduce on fresh checkout of flourish sprint branch | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | damn! sorry guys | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | my bad! | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | i pasted the wrong link :( | 16:51 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Fourth/gradebook | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/calendar | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | my apologies... | 16:52 |
| yvl | no prob, let's go with aelkner now | 16:52 |
| th1a | aelkner: We need to make the "classes you teach/classes you attend" thing smarter. | 16:52 |
| th1a | That is, only show it if you do both. | 16:52 |
| th1a | We should add sort by title and average. | 16:53 |
| aelkner | th1a, that page already only shows those choices if you do both | 16:53 |
| aelkner | otherwise, it auto-redirects to the one thing that you do | 16:54 |
| th1a | Also, I would like a little icon next to links that have menus to indicate that. | 16:54 |
| th1a | aelkner, Oh, ok. | 16:54 |
| th1a | Good! | 16:54 |
| aelkner | as far as sort by average, the gradebook logic only supports sort by name, total, and activity | 16:54 |
| aelkner | but sorting by average is the same as sort by total, right? | 16:55 |
| th1a | I don't think so. | 16:55 |
| th1a | It is the average of the things scored, right? | 16:55 |
| th1a | Do you get 0 for unscored items? | 16:55 |
| menesis | no | 16:56 |
| th1a | So they're different. | 16:56 |
| th1a | I'd like to have sort for average. | 16:56 |
| th1a | Also, I'd like some feedback on this: | 16:57 |
| aelkner | there's also N/A when there are no activities to average | 16:57 |
| th1a | Switch to one Add: Activity link for all three types, selecting activity type using tertiary navigation. | 16:57 |
| th1a | Because Linked Activity and Linked Column are about 20 times less commonly used than just Activity. | 16:58 |
| * th1a just pulled those numbers out of his but. | 16:58 | |
| th1a | butt. | 16:58 |
| th1a | Thoughts? | 16:59 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure how the tertiary nac would be used here | 16:59 |
| aelkner | nav | 16:59 |
| th1a | Just like tabs, essentially. | 16:59 |
| th1a | You'd get regular activity for by default. | 16:59 |
| aelkner | as far as i can see the, the tertiary nav uses links | 16:59 |
| th1a | Yes... | 16:59 |
| th1a | That would take you to the different form. | 17:00 |
| aelkner | oh, i see, clicking on the link brings the user to the add view of choice | 17:00 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:00 |
| aelkner | ok, i can see doing that | 17:00 |
| aelkner | interesting | 17:00 |
| th1a | Basically you need two clicks for the less common choices. | 17:00 |
| aelkner | right | 17:00 |
| th1a | But the main interface is less cluttered. | 17:00 |
| aelkner | ok, how about report sheets? | 17:00 |
| aelkner | that doesn't go in the gradebook page | 17:00 |
| th1a | Ah, yes. | 17:00 |
| aelkner | that's an admin function | 17:01 |
| aelkner | with a table view | 17:01 |
| th1a | Ooh... | 17:01 |
| aelkner | where does the Report Shets link go? | 17:01 |
| aelkner | School? | 17:01 |
| th1a | Well, we're going to need to work on that, and I completely forgot about it. | 17:02 |
| aelkner | well, i can add a bookmark for now for /report_sheets | 17:02 |
| th1a | Because we need to centralized the management so you don't have to navigate to the years, etc. any more. | 17:02 |
| aelkner | report sheet templates themselves are year independent | 17:03 |
| th1a | Yes. I think we still have some stuff to do in Gradebook first. | 17:03 |
| aelkner | ok, what else? | 17:03 |
| th1a | Get rid of preferences. | 17:04 |
| aelkner | that takes three seconds | 17:04 |
| th1a | Add adding summary sheets to the worksheet view. | 17:04 |
| aelkner | i still haven't added title and Ave checkmarks for hide/unhide | 17:04 |
| aelkner | but i'll do that next | 17:04 |
| aelkner | that was going in the Name menu, remember? | 17:05 |
| th1a | Need to choose score systems from total and ave without preferences view. | 17:05 |
| th1a | So probably launching a modal from a menu. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Or maybe just doing it all in the menu. | 17:05 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:06 |
| th1a | We need to clean up the text formatting here I think: | 17:06 |
| th1a | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Fourth/weights.html | 17:06 |
| th1a | replaceafill: How do you think a long comment like that should be styled? | 17:06 |
| th1a | Also, I think we should add an "enable weighting" boolean to that view. | 17:07 |
| th1a | So that it is clear if it is "on" or "off" | 17:07 |
| th1a | Or something. | 17:07 |
| th1a | Maybe just a message. | 17:07 |
| th1a | Just a "No category weights set." message. | 17:08 |
| th1a | I guess that's enough. | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | th1a can't think of a different way than regular p's | 17:08 |
| yvl | and add edit icon next to it | 17:08 |
| th1a | It seems to have too little bottom margin. | 17:08 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, why is the Name link not centered like the Total and Ave are? | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, no reason, i just put it on the left | 17:09 |
| th1a | Oh... I don't think the form should have a table in it. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Just a regular form. | 17:10 |
| aelkner | what form? | 17:10 |
| th1a | lol http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Fourth/weights.html | 17:11 |
| aelkner | it already IS a form | 17:11 |
| th1a | It has a table in it, right? | 17:11 |
| * yvl cannot recall how he got to this page: http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Third/gradebook | 17:11 | |
| aelkner | ah, you mean make it use widget rows instead of table and <tr> | 17:12 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:12 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:12 |
| aelkner | but what about the <p>? | 17:12 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Try to find an example of how Canonical handles text above a form. | 17:13 |
| th1a | They have to have some examples of that. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Or maybe they put it inside the form box. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Regarding the worksheet page, I don't think we want to put add summary in the sidebar. | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/contact | 17:14 |
| th1a | It probably needs the same kind of treatment it has now. | 17:14 |
| th1a | replaceafill: That's ALL different! | 17:15 |
| aelkner | the worksheet page? that's the gradebook | 17:15 |
| th1a | worksheets. | 17:15 |
| aelkner | you'd like a add summary section at the bottom of that? | 17:15 |
| th1a | I'm not crazy about putting it there, but I guess. | 17:16 |
| aelkner | after the Done button, of course | 17:16 |
| th1a | Before. | 17:16 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:16 |
| th1a | replaceafill: One of the styles needs to be tweaked to put more space under the paragraph in our form. | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | th1a will check it | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | can't find a good example in ubuntu.com :( | 17:19 |
| th1a | aelkner: I guess you can start on the report sheet template views. | 17:19 |
| th1a | aelkner, They're pretty straightforward. | 17:19 |
| th1a | replaceafill, I think we just need to add a header and get a little more spacing underneath. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Is the problem that forms have so little top margin? | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:20 |
| aelkner | th1a, ok, i have plenty to do now | 17:20 |
| th1a | Good. | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | since we didnt have paragraph above them until now | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | and paragraphs only have 8px for margin-bottom | 17:21 |
| th1a | We may just need a different class for form explanation paragraphs. | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a correct | 17:21 |
| th1a | Thanks aelkner. | 17:21 |
| th1a | OK, replaceafill, you're up. | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a ah ok | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | i want your opinion on two things | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/section_linkage.html | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | i added the "link an existing section" view | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | could you please click the "Link an Existing Section" in Q4 | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | in that page | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | you should get a modal | 17:24 |
| th1a | Yes... | 17:24 |
| th1a | Looks ok. | 17:24 |
| th1a | Maybe a little jumbled. | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | yvl could you try that too please? | 17:24 |
| * yvl is looking at that | 17:24 | |
| th1a | Did I design this? | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ah, yvl question about the dialogs | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | yvl search for an instructor name | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | and you'll see the dialog being re-rendered a little below its original posiitoin | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | *position | 17:25 |
| yvl | yes, the dialog jumps down | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | right? | 17:25 |
| * yvl does not remember how to fix that off hand | 17:25 | |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | never mind then | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | th1a it's mostly the old view made a dialog | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | if it's ok, i'll move on to my next questions | 17:26 |
| yvl | I think that jump is a glitch in jquery | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | th1a http://69.164.203.135:6660/settings | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | i added the "Pack Database" action | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | it will pack the database when you click it | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | and you'll get only a confirmation dialog | 17:27 |
| th1a | The instructor part should be reformatted to look more explicitly like a search widget. | 17:27 |
| th1a | And I think the information at the top might be more confusing then helpful (the table, that is). | 17:27 |
| th1a | At least, looking at it with fresh eyes I found it more confusing than helpful. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | th1a i was thinking of putting that info in the dialog's title | 17:28 |
| th1a | I like the title now. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | i'll take the table out and show it back later | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | and style the search widget | 17:29 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 17:29 |
| th1a | What else? Starting the Journal? | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | i think i'll have the mail journal view ready by tomorrow | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | i spent some time playing with the left/right columns | 17:31 |
| th1a | Cool. | 17:31 |
| th1a | Yes, I distracted you. | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:31 |
| th1a | For a good cause. ;-) | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | i have more questions, but not important stuff | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | they can wait | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | that's it from me | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks. | 17:32 |
| th1a | So I feel like we're pretty much on track for our self-imposed feature freeze deadline. | 17:32 |
| th1a | We may still be finishing interventions, which is no big deal. | 17:33 |
| th1a | I had been feeling like blowing through the deadline for a reports overhaul, which would probably take about a week for someone. | 17:33 |
| th1a | I'm leaning against that. | 17:33 |
| th1a | Leaning toward being pretty strict about not adding new stuff after Thursday. | 17:34 |
| th1a | There is still a lot to do. | 17:34 |
| th1a | Breadcrumbs, etc. | 17:34 |
| th1a | menesis: I'm thinking a milestone release around the 18th might be good. | 17:35 |
| th1a | If not before. | 17:35 |
| th1a | OK. I'm going to the beach. | 17:36 |
| menesis | will have in mind | 17:36 |
| th1a | Catch you tomorrow. | 17:36 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:36 | |
| replaceafill | enjoy th1a | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | sorry again for screwing yvl's report | 17:36 |
| yvl | don't worry, happens ;) | 17:37 |
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