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| aks | yvl: ping | 11:22 |
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| yvl | pong, aks | 11:22 |
| aks | yvl: how was the dev meeting? | 11:22 |
| yvl | good, thanks :) | 11:23 |
| yvl | we didn't discuss RPM packaging though - as Douglas is testing them anyway | 11:24 |
| yvl | hope it's ok with you? | 11:24 |
| yvl | (he sent you an email just before the meeting) | 11:24 |
| aks | yvl: yes, he cited some errors which i'm fixing now | 11:25 |
| aks | yvl: Douglas is not online though | 11:25 |
| yvl | yes, he is located in El Salvador :) | 11:27 |
| yvl | its 3AM there if I got my timezones right | 11:27 |
| aks | yvl: oh ok | 11:28 |
| ignas | haha timezones :) | 11:28 |
| yvl | what? ;) | 11:28 |
| ignas | still feel a sting when I see 'got timezones' and 'right' in one sentence ;) | 11:30 |
| yvl | :DDD | 11:30 |
| yvl | hence the abundant usage of ifs and maybes in all sentences containing timezones ;) | 11:31 |
| ignas | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=time+in+el+salvador | 11:32 |
| ignas | wolfram is quite useful when you get the hang of it | 11:33 |
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| aks | yvl: did you get my reply on the mail that Douglas sent yesterday? I'm afraid if my reply got lost | 12:32 |
| yvl | the one with "update SPEC from git repo"? yes. | 12:44 |
| yvl | (aks, and I got another one again few minutes ago) | 12:46 |
| aks | yvl: ok | 12:46 |
| aks | yvl: if Douglas's tests confirm okay, i'll push the recent changes to the master branch | 12:46 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: Have you tested your fix at ACC yet? | 21:09 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i'm talking with dwelsh right now | 21:10 |
| replaceafill | th1a, matt is coming so we can set it up | 21:13 |
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| mattva01 | hey | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | hey mattva01 | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | mattva01, i have a new branch in launchpad: | 21:14 |
| replaceafill | th1a, setting my sandbox now in the ACC server | 21:25 |
| th1a | Cool. | 21:25 |
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| mattva01 | hey replaceafill, what was the port again? | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | 60020 | 22:02 |
| mattva01 | thanks :p | 22:03 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: How's it looking? | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | th1a, matt said he would go to test it, no news yet | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | and dwelsh is Away in gtalk | 22:21 |
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| mattva01 | replaceafill, it seems to work | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | mattva01, great | 22:24 |
| mattva01 | heading back to main comp :p | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | thanks mattva01 | 22:26 |
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| th1a | Excellent. | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | th1a, just changing the templates :) | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | the python code for that view is maccaroni (as yvl says) | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | i profiled it yesterday, and some things are done too many times | 22:27 |
| th1a | Well, yeah, I realized it must be pretty simple when I understood that only part of the page wasn't loading. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | methodA is called in __init__ and then in update()... | 22:28 |
| th1a | Because I don't even know how I'd do that if I tried. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | dwelsh said he will ask some teachers to test it tomorrow, so we'll have more info about it | 22:29 |
| th1a | I don't expect it will be very complicated from here. | 22:29 |
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| mattva01 | so replaceafill, just get gediminas to get me an deb upgrade path and we are golden :p | 22:32 |
| replaceafill | mattva01, will do | 22:32 |
| mattva01 | thanks | 22:33 |
| mattva01 | you rock :p | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | mattva01, dwelsh said he will ask some teachers to try it | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | let's wait for their input | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | just in case | 22:33 |
| mattva01 | yeah will do | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | and that will give me time to clean a little more | 22:34 |
| mattva01 | sounds good to me | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | mattva01, btw, are these workstations running firefox or ie? | 22:34 |
| mattva01 | firefox | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | cando's layout breaks horribly in IE7 | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | :( | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | and the dynamic update doesn't even work properly :p | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | looks fine in ie9 though | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | ok time to go play some world of warcraft: cataclysm :p | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | thanks again mattva01 | 22:40 |
| mattva01 | np, and thank you ! i'm sure the teachers will be very happy once this is verified and deployed :p | 22:41 |
| mattva01 | ok i'm out , cya | 22:41 |
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| * replaceafill will investigate if the schooltool.gradebook is using this "2 views in 1" pattern... | 22:42 | |
| dadeng | aelkner hi | 22:54 |
| aelkner | hey dadeng | 22:55 |
| dadeng | good | 22:55 |
| dadeng | now some observations | 22:55 |
| dadeng | pls login with AKINWALE and use adeyemi as password | 22:56 |
| aelkner | btw, i have a fix for the initial crash problem, it may fix the problem you have now, maybe not | 22:58 |
| dadeng | ok, so should i update first? | 22:58 |
| aelkner | yes, here's how: | 22:59 |
| aelkner | go to the terminal session where you have the server running and stop it by hitting ctrl-c | 22:59 |
| dadeng | go ahead | 22:59 |
| aelkner | you should be in the schooltoo.niepa directory | 23:00 |
| dadeng | yes | 23:00 |
| aelkner | bzr pull | 23:00 |
| aelkner | that command will pull the latest changes from the internet | 23:00 |
| aelkner | you should see some file names with + or - next to them, i forget | 23:02 |
| dadeng | but it is pulling already | 23:02 |
| dadeng | it finished pulling | 23:03 |
| aelkner | make run | 23:03 |
| aelkner | try loogging in as teacher and you should not get crash problem | 23:04 |
| aelkner | then try the bug were about to report, and if it still stands, i'll look into it | 23:04 |
| dadeng | ok | 23:05 |
| dadeng | yes, it is in the journal view | 23:07 |
| dadeng | it is still there | 23:07 |
| aelkner | what is the script to get to the bug? | 23:08 |
| aelkner | i.e., i logged in, i'm at the cando 'What would you like to do?' view | 23:09 |
| dadeng | no loging in | 23:10 |
| dadeng | with the same teacher i gave u b4 | 23:10 |
| aelkner | why wouldn't you log in? | 23:11 |
| dadeng | i'm log in | 23:11 |
| dadeng | already | 23:11 |
| aelkner | ok, now what? | 23:11 |
| dadeng | Journal -> Technical Drawing 270 | 23:12 |
| dadeng | is the view ok? | 23:12 |
| aelkner | yes | 23:12 |
| aelkner | why? | 23:13 |
| aelkner | oh | 23:13 |
| aelkner | i see periods appearing twice | 23:13 |
| aelkner | i know there's a reason for that, i'm trying to remember | 23:14 |
| dadeng | even with that it doesn't look consistent | 23:14 |
| dadeng | ok, u can look later | 23:14 |
| dadeng | now let's move on | 23:14 |
| dadeng | under school info | 23:15 |
| aelkner | yes? | 23:15 |
| dadeng | it is just some of the setup values | 23:16 |
| dadeng | levels of education | 23:17 |
| dadeng | it should be | 23:17 |
| dadeng | Junior Secondary Only, Senior secondary Only, Combined | 23:18 |
| dadeng | but why is this a setup value and dynamically provided? | 23:18 |
| dadeng | and not dynamically provided? | 23:18 |
| aelkner | how dynamically would schooltool know whether a school was any of those types? | 23:20 |
| dadeng | by the user providing it instead of predefined | 23:20 |
| dadeng | that value should be provided by the administrator once and for all | 23:21 |
| dadeng | anyhow let's go on | 23:21 |
| aelkner | administrator of what? the schooltool server? | 23:21 |
| dadeng | yes | 23:21 |
| aelkner | so that person sets the value in that form to the correct one | 23:22 |
| dadeng | now under type of school | 23:22 |
| aelkner | let's not move on | 23:22 |
| aelkner | i'm in the middle of talking about the schoolo info | 23:22 |
| dadeng | fill it in | 23:22 |
| dadeng | yes it is still under schoolt info | 23:23 |
| aelkner | we were talking about school type | 23:23 |
| aelkner | and you asked why not dynamically | 23:23 |
| dadeng | yes | 23:23 |
| aelkner | but schooltool can't guess what type of school is using it | 23:23 |
| aelkner | the user must fill in that value | 23:23 |
| aelkner | that's what the form is for | 23:23 |
| aelkner | it let's the user tell schooltool what the values would be | 23:24 |
| dadeng | most of the predefined values on the form should be filled in once by schooltool administrator | 23:24 |
| aelkner | who's stopping the adminstrator | 23:24 |
| aelkner | ??? | 23:24 |
| dadeng | what do u mean? | 23:25 |
| aelkner | it HAS to be done once | 23:25 |
| dadeng | yes | 23:25 |
| aelkner | how else would schooltool know the vales!!! | 23:25 |
| aelkner | so the admin user fills them in | 23:25 |
| aelkner | and then they are set forever | 23:26 |
| dadeng | i don't understand, do u have ur instance on over there? | 23:26 |
| aelkner | yes | 23:26 |
| dadeng | so pls check it | 23:26 |
| dadeng | so that we're talking about the same thing | 23:26 |
| aelkner | i went to Schol Info | 23:27 |
| dadeng | ok | 23:27 |
| dadeng | look at it | 23:27 |
| aelkner | I pulled down the list next to Schhol type | 23:27 |
| aelkner | i selected one | 23:27 |
| aelkner | i hit Apply | 23:27 |
| aelkner | i returned | 23:27 |
| aelkner | i found that the value was set | 23:27 |
| dadeng | Levels of education offered first pls | 23:27 |
| aelkner | what else would one expect | 23:27 |
| aelkner | ok | 23:28 |
| aelkner | you would like that to be two different questions, i get that | 23:28 |
| aelkner | the report pdf can answer the census question by looking at both questions | 23:29 |
| aelkner | 1) | 23:29 |
| dadeng | no, instead of having predefining those values there which are not complete as it now | 23:29 |
| dadeng | let the ST admin set it up once and forever | 23:30 |
| aelkner | where? | 23:30 |
| dadeng | hey alan, it seems we're not in sync | 23:30 |
| th1a | Can't we just preset the niepa package with all the possible values for Nigeria and leave it at that? | 23:31 |
| dadeng | yes, that's another option | 23:31 |
| aelkner | what's the point of the census form if every school is going to answer it the same? | 23:31 |
| dadeng | but that means we have to wait until i get all the available options | 23:31 |
| aelkner | ??? | 23:31 |
| dadeng | no i did not mean that because there are several types of schools in nigeria | 23:32 |
| th1a | We just need to stay focused on what you need for a plausible demo. | 23:32 |
| aelkner | i thought the need was for schools to communicate data to the ministry | 23:32 |
| aelkner | for god sakes, if we can't agree on that... | 23:32 |
| dadeng | but this is an important thing to get right | 23:32 |
| dadeng | it is not that complex | 23:33 |
| dadeng | yes, is it that schooltool cannot accept this values as user input or what? | 23:33 |
| th1a | Do you want the user to type this in? | 23:34 |
| th1a | Just a textbox? | 23:34 |
| dadeng | yes, that is a possibility in system design | 23:34 |
| th1a | We can do that if you want. | 23:34 |
| dadeng | on the other hand we can have a setup table as it is done now, but the values are not complete | 23:35 |
| dadeng | and that is what i'm trying to tell Alan | 23:35 |
| dadeng | may be he's worked too hard today | 23:36 |
| dadeng | th1a what do u suggest? | 23:36 |
| th1a | Let me take a look. | 23:37 |
| th1a | dadeng: Just send us an email with the correct values for the menu in each of those fields. | 23:39 |
| dadeng | ok, i'll do that | 23:41 |
| dadeng | are we going for setup table or to be provided by the ST admin during setup | 23:42 |
| dadeng | ? | 23:42 |
| th1a | It will be like this, with the proper values. | 23:43 |
| * th1a goes to make dinner. | 23:44 | |
| aelkner | dadeng, it all good, just trouble communicated on a funcimental data processing point | 23:44 |
| aelkner | when you say you want something preset that in fact needs a user to communcate | 23:45 |
| aelkner | you just mean you need the form to be slightly differetn | 23:45 |
| aelkner | in ways that we can work out here and now | 23:45 |
| dadeng | yes, it's ok, | 23:45 |
| aelkner | in order for the user to commnicate the values intended | 23:45 |
| aelkner | so, case in point | 23:45 |
| aelkner | Levels of education offered | 23:46 |
| dadeng | hey Alan, don't worry i'll make it easier, i'll write what i think about each view and send u email | 23:46 |
| aelkner | sounds good | 23:46 |
| dadeng | i'm doing that already | 23:46 |
| aelkner | while you're doing that, i'm wokring on getting you your links back :) | 23:46 |
| dadeng | really u're doing a great work here and i appreciate it | 23:46 |
| dadeng | it is just that we have to manage communication over internet | 23:47 |
| dadeng | so, i'll get back to u soon | 23:47 |
| dadeng | ok, good | 23:47 |
| aelkner | ok, cool | 23:51 |
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