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| dadeng | Hi aelkner | 00:58 |
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| aelkner | dadeng, hey | 02:03 |
| aelkner | you still there? | 02:03 |
| dadeng | yes | 02:03 |
| aelkner | i was hoping you could send me that screenshot | 02:03 |
| aelkner | so we can be looking at the same thing | 02:03 |
| dadeng | which one? the earlier one? | 02:04 |
| aelkner | you said, "the average column on the screenshot i sent to u is not displaying well" | 02:05 |
| aelkner | but you never sent me the screenshot | 02:05 |
| aelkner | maybe you sent it to tom | 02:06 |
| dadeng | ok, i'll resend now | 02:07 |
| dadeng | i sent it to your gmail | 02:13 |
| aelkner | ok, i got, so you were asking about the Ave. column? | 02:15 |
| dadeng | yes, | 02:18 |
| dadeng | can u see it? | 02:18 |
| dadeng | is the display ok like that? | 02:20 |
| aelkner | actually, it looks backwards, like the total has the average and the average has the total | 02:21 |
| aelkner | 77-100 means 77 out of 100 possible | 02:21 |
| aelkner | 77.0 would be the average 77/100 | 02:21 |
| dadeng | somehow, well, in that case there is a serious problem, because of other rows that display something different | 02:22 |
| dadeng | but i think it just need to display average total scores | 02:22 |
| dadeng | 77 out of 100 is implied and well understood | 02:23 |
| dadeng | but it should display just 77 | 02:23 |
| dadeng | there are other issues | 02:23 |
| dadeng | can we go on them? | 02:23 |
| aelkner | go on them? | 02:24 |
| aelkner | how does one go on something? | 02:25 |
| dadeng | ok, do u have an instance running there? | 02:25 |
| aelkner | yes | 02:25 |
| dadeng | ok, try login as a teacher with username, AKINWALE, password adeyemi | 02:25 |
| dadeng | what do u observer? | 02:26 |
| aelkner | looks like you found a bug :) | 02:28 |
| dadeng | ok, | 02:28 |
| dadeng | but were u able to eventually login? | 02:28 |
| aelkner | i logged in as you suggested and got the error that you got | 02:29 |
| dadeng | i mean with this teacher? | 02:29 |
| aelkner | that's what i meant by you finding a bug | 02:29 |
| aelkner | yes | 02:29 |
| dadeng | if u click further, it will log u in | 02:29 |
| aelkner | it may be related to the custom button that we are putting in your package | 02:30 |
| aelkner | oh no, i don't have a problem logging in, i just see the system error when i log in | 02:30 |
| dadeng | click anyhting like session etc on that view and it'll log u in | 02:30 |
| aelkner | i thought that's what you were getting | 02:30 |
| dadeng | no, i really went further with the teacher login | 02:31 |
| aelkner | i don't understand 'go further' | 02:32 |
| aelkner | if you log out, you see a login view | 02:32 |
| aelkner | if you enter the password, what happens | 02:32 |
| dadeng | after u got the error, just click on any link on that same view and it'll log u in | 02:32 |
| aelkner | that's not true | 02:32 |
| aelkner | you are already logged in when you got the error | 02:33 |
| dadeng | try it pls | 02:33 |
| aelkner | clicking on something else just gives you a page that doesn't have a bug | 02:33 |
| dadeng | ok | 02:33 |
| aelkner | but the logging in part was accomplished on the same transaction that you got the error | 02:33 |
| aelkner | ok, anyway | 02:33 |
| aelkner | i need to find out what causes the error | 02:33 |
| dadeng | so let's click on journal | 02:33 |
| dadeng | yeah, u'll do that later, i think | 02:34 |
| dadeng | i still have some other issues | 02:34 |
| aelkner | so i clicked on the journal | 02:34 |
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| aelkner | sorry about that, i hit alt-f4 when i was going for alt-f3 | 02:36 |
| dadeng | ok, click on basic technology(134) for example | 02:36 |
| aelkner | ok, clicked | 02:36 |
| dadeng | are u there? | 02:36 |
| dadeng | after term grading | 02:36 |
| aelkner | the journal is in view | 02:36 |
| dadeng | those columns what do they represent? | 02:36 |
| aelkner | the top number is the day of the month, the bottom one, the period id (first three chars at least) | 02:37 |
| dadeng | ok, like 04 is month while 13 is the day of the month? | 02:38 |
| aelkner | 04 is the day of the month, 13 the period id | 02:38 |
| dadeng | oh, period id | 02:39 |
| dadeng | ok | 02:39 |
| aelkner | the the month is may, the higlighted tab | 02:39 |
| aelkner | that's a relief, at least it's not a bug :) | 02:39 |
| dadeng | and this take care of whether the student was in attendance or not? | 02:39 |
| aelkner | yes | 02:39 |
| dadeng | ok, good | 02:39 |
| aelkner | you can enter a number too | 02:39 |
| dadeng | the number will be for what? | 02:40 |
| aelkner | actually, strike that | 02:40 |
| dadeng | pls explain | 02:40 |
| aelkner | that's an esoteric feature for some schools that grade and give attendance in one score | 02:40 |
| aelkner | you won't want that | 02:40 |
| aelkner | you have the gradebook for your grades | 02:40 |
| aelkner | and you can use the journal for your attendance | 02:41 |
| dadeng | may be it is needed let's leave it | 02:41 |
| aelkner | that is the most common use cases | 02:41 |
| aelkner | yes | 02:41 |
| dadeng | yes, that is if attendance carries some marks | 02:41 |
| dadeng | and why should it not in a continuous assessment environment? | 02:41 |
| aelkner | ? | 02:41 |
| dadeng | the schools here operate on continuous assessment | 02:42 |
| dadeng | but i'm not sure marks are awarded for attendance | 02:42 |
| aelkner | so, do you have any other observations, bugs found? | 02:43 |
| dadeng | but can u explain to me how the grading works for schools that use that? | 02:44 |
| aelkner | use what? | 02:44 |
| dadeng | well... i'll make my people in the office click as much as possible later today and i'll get back to u | 02:44 |
| dadeng | u said the columns we talked about above are used for grading | 02:45 |
| aelkner | in the journal? | 02:45 |
| dadeng | that is each period is graded | 02:45 |
| dadeng | i think i even can picture how it works now | 02:45 |
| dadeng | yes | 02:45 |
| aelkner | please forget i mentioned grading in the journal | 02:45 |
| aelkner | i t only supports a single digit per cell | 02:45 |
| dadeng | u just enter the graded for each period id | 02:46 |
| aelkner | fine for (a - absent, p - present) | 02:46 |
| aelkner | but 1-9 is available | 02:46 |
| aelkner | i'm just saying, probably of no use for you | 02:46 |
| aelkner | you want to grade activities in the gradebook | 02:46 |
| aelkner | that's all i'm saying | 02:46 |
| aelkner | and why i'm sorry i mentioned it | 02:47 |
| dadeng | oh, it good u mentioned it | 02:47 |
| dadeng | it can serve this scenerio | 02:47 |
| dadeng | ok, but if the month is 04, and the period id is 13 for example | 02:48 |
| dadeng | what about those ones showing something like 13 at the top and 10 below? | 02:48 |
| dadeng | definitely there is no month that is 13 | 02:48 |
| aelkner | you forgot, 13 is the day of the month, 10 the period id | 02:49 |
| dadeng | so 04 is the day of the month and not month per se | 02:49 |
| aelkner | look up in the chat, we discussed this | 02:50 |
| aelkner | i said that the month is the highlighted tab, May | 02:50 |
| dadeng | ok, yes | 02:51 |
| aelkner | anyway, i need an idea of what your priorities are for the demo | 02:51 |
| aelkner | for insance, i continue to note that you don't seem interested in the census demos i set up for you | 02:51 |
| dadeng | that means this subject was taken 6 times in may? | 02:51 |
| aelkner | yes | 02:51 |
| dadeng | good, i'm interested in this | 02:52 |
| dadeng | because the average column means alot in terms of the sms feature | 02:52 |
| dadeng | this is the real class work scores | 02:52 |
| dadeng | it is a good feature alan | 02:53 |
| aelkner | what are you planning on demonstrating with those fields? | 02:53 |
| aelkner | you're not asking me anything about them | 02:53 |
| aelkner | so, i can't assume that you are even going to show them in the demo | 02:54 |
| dadeng | monthly, there is average score sent via sms for school inspection purposes | 02:54 |
| dadeng | we'll demonstrate that actually class work for students get stored within schooltool | 02:54 |
| dadeng | do u understand? | 02:55 |
| aelkner | and no demo of the census fields? | 02:55 |
| dadeng | where is this census field on the journal? | 02:56 |
| dadeng | i think it is a different thing all together | 02:56 |
| dadeng | we definitely need that done | 02:56 |
| aelkner | dadeng, please, forget the gradebook for a second, forget the journal | 02:56 |
| aelkner | you sent us a census form | 02:56 |
| aelkner | i've worked for weeks now trying to get your custom schooltol | 02:57 |
| dadeng | u have finished with this already | 02:57 |
| dadeng | there is no problem with it | 02:57 |
| aelkner | to allow for entering census data | 02:57 |
| dadeng | yes, finish it up | 02:57 |
| aelkner | you've been using that fields? | 02:57 |
| dadeng | well done!!! | 02:57 |
| aelkner | those | 02:57 |
| aelkner | you will be entering data and showing it in the demo? | 02:58 |
| dadeng | we have uptill 16th dec, for ur info | 02:58 |
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| aelkner | oh | 02:58 |
| dadeng | oh, i dont understand | 02:58 |
| aelkner | the 16th | 02:58 |
| aelkner | that gives us more time | 02:58 |
| aelkner | what don't you understand? | 02:58 |
| dadeng | the fields u said i've been using | 02:58 |
| aelkner | listen | 02:59 |
| aelkner | there are three key forms | 02:59 |
| aelkner | add/edit teacher, student or location (think classroom) | 02:59 |
| aelkner | in those forms | 02:59 |
| aelkner | there are fields sets that are entitled ... ddemographics | 02:59 |
| aelkner | all of those fields, on all three of those forms, added up | 03:00 |
| aelkner | make up the source of any census report we would write | 03:00 |
| aelkner | i've begun work on the actual report | 03:00 |
| aelkner | if we have to the 16th, i can get you something that looks reasonable | 03:01 |
| aelkner | and also fix these bugs you are finding | 03:01 |
| aelkner | but anyway, regarding the census data | 03:01 |
| aelkner | i wanted you to look that over, and have your people clicking around that area | 03:01 |
| aelkner | and entering data that can later appear on the census report | 03:02 |
| aelkner | on report will return a pdf for the whole school | 03:02 |
| aelkner | ah, i forgot | 03:02 |
| aelkner | one more form | 03:02 |
| aelkner | the School Info lin k on the Manage tab | 03:02 |
| aelkner | that has fileds that are for the census report as well | 03:02 |
| aelkner | that makes four forms that have to do with the census | 03:02 |
| dadeng | ok, the meeting is on the 16th, so let say we have up till 15th | 03:03 |
| aelkner | after looking those forms over, so you see how entering data in them would allow us | 03:03 |
| aelkner | to generate the one pdf census report | 03:03 |
| aelkner | that could be sent to the ministries | 03:03 |
| aelkner | does that make sense? | 03:04 |
| dadeng | ok | 03:04 |
| dadeng | pls pardon this serious omission | 03:04 |
| aelkner | serious omission, how so? | 03:05 |
| dadeng | we need a field where the geo co ordinate of the school will appear | 03:05 |
| dadeng | this is crucial for schools mapping | 03:05 |
| dadeng | it was on that form | 03:05 |
| dadeng | it was not on that form | 03:05 |
| dadeng | it doesnt to link to anything yet | 03:06 |
| aelkner | how many things were missing from the form you sent us? | 03:06 |
| dadeng | to be frank i don't know but they will show up at the meeting | 03:06 |
| dadeng | this is the first time we are having the people together to give the real input | 03:06 |
| dadeng | but i know school mapping is a major requirement for any emis | 03:07 |
| dadeng | pls how do i save this chat for future reference? | 03:08 |
| dadeng | i need to keep this information for instruction to people who will do the clicking | 03:08 |
| dadeng | around | 03:08 |
| dadeng | are u there? | 03:09 |
| dadeng | ok, i figure that out myself | 03:11 |
| dadeng | i'll soon go to bed is almost 3am here and i'm going to office by 8am | 03:12 |
| dadeng | we'll do what u requested and get back to you later in the day | 03:13 |
| aelkner | sorry, i'm back | 03:15 |
| aelkner | dadeng, still there? | 03:15 |
| dadeng | yes | 03:15 |
| aelkner | i'll give a link to schooltool chats | 03:16 |
| dadeng | ok, good | 03:16 |
| aelkner | also, can we meet tomorrow? | 03:16 |
| dadeng | yes today later in the day | 03:16 |
| aelkner | http://schooltool.pov.lt/irclogs/ | 03:16 |
| dadeng | ok | 03:16 |
| dadeng | so, see u later | 03:16 |
| aelkner | ok, cya soon | 03:17 |
| dadeng | bye | 03:17 |
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| dadeng | and well done!!! | 03:17 |
| aelkner | oh, thanks | 03:17 |
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| aks | yvl: ping | 11:24 |
| yvl | pong, aks | 11:37 |
| aks | yvl: did you have had time to test my scripts? | 11:37 |
| yvl | sorry, no | 11:37 |
| yvl | I'm a bit stumped with other stuff | 11:37 |
| yvl | so only read the sources :) | 11:38 |
| aks | yvl: oh ok, did replaceafill test it? do you have any idea? | 11:38 |
| yvl | by the way - is it ok if we mirror your repo in Launchpad once it's "stable" | 11:38 |
| yvl | aks, I'll ask him in dev meeting today | 11:38 |
| aks | yvl: yes you can | 11:38 |
| yvl | dev meeting is in 5 hours | 11:39 |
| aks | oh ok | 11:39 |
| yvl | it'll be early Monday morning for people in another continent ;) | 11:39 |
| aks | yvl: now that dev meeting should also consider packagers like me :D | 11:39 |
| yvl | of course ;) | 11:40 |
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| th1a | Hi replaceafill, aelkner, yvl, menesis. | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 16:31 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
| menesis | evening. | 16:31 |
| menesis | :) | 16:32 |
| yvl | good morning :) | 16:32 |
| th1a | Well, thanks to everyone's good work we all have jobs for another year. | 16:32 |
| th1a | I appreciate that. ;-) | 16:33 |
| yvl | good news indeed :) | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:34 |
| th1a | aelkner: How was the weekend with David? | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i agree with menesis, it looks like a custom score system for the average | 16:35 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, do you have access to that database? | 16:35 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll look into the custom score system idea | 16:35 |
| aelkner | anyway | 16:35 |
| aelkner | david had a lot of things to ask about his schooltool instance, none of which had to do with census demos | 16:36 |
| aelkner | which was disappointing, but he did find some bugs | 16:37 |
| th1a | lol | 16:37 |
| th1a | We need them anyhow. | 16:37 |
| aelkner | the first of which i reported, the second one is that the teacher's go view crashes | 16:37 |
| th1a | In CanDo? | 16:37 |
| aelkner | yes | 16:37 |
| aelkner | something about a component lookup error | 16:37 |
| yvl | I noticed that too | 16:38 |
| yvl | but didn't check | 16:38 |
| aelkner | yvl, could you reproduce that and take a quick look for me? | 16:38 |
| yvl | being in teachers or students group usually means something in CanDo | 16:38 |
| aelkner | hmm | 16:39 |
| yvl | (and I couldn't find a way to populate the instance with courses) | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i can help there if you want | 16:39 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, that would be great, thanks | 16:39 |
| aelkner | there's also another issue, and that is the custom viewlet managers | 16:40 |
| aelkner | i copied the concept from schooltool.cambodia, but i'm not sure i like it too much | 16:40 |
| aelkner | having a custom action viewlet manager means having to add each link back | 16:41 |
| aelkner | that is already registered in all the packages in core | 16:41 |
| aelkner | yvl, that's why you could figure out how to add a course, becuase the link was gone | 16:41 |
| aelkner | i was thinking, is there any reason why we have to REPLACE the action viewlet manager? | 16:41 |
| aelkner | isn't there a way to keep the default action links and maybe slectively REMOVE them? | 16:42 |
| aelkner | in a rare case, i could see not wanting some of the person links anymore | 16:42 |
| aelkner | sinve we have the special concept of adding teachers, students and administrators | 16:43 |
| aelkner | perhaps removing Add Person would make sense | 16:43 |
| aelkner | but by simply replacing the action viewlet manager, we loose all those context links set up in all the packages | 16:44 |
| aelkner | anyway, any thoughts? | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i guess it's easier to add new buttons than disabling some | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | for instance, the section action links are a lot | 16:45 |
| aelkner | easier to readd EVERY button defined in 100 different places throughout schooltool core? | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, at least cambodia hasn't needed all of them | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | maybe niepa is different | 16:45 |
| aelkner | perhaps so | 16:46 |
| yvl | ok, first for the broken view problem | 16:46 |
| th1a | aelkner may want a different approach here, since Cambodia is a really minimal case. | 16:46 |
| yvl | true, th1a | 16:46 |
| yvl | you need to use INewCanDoSkin instead of INewCanDoLayer | 16:46 |
| yvl | some of the content is registered for the layer, some for the skin | 16:47 |
| yvl | (skin inherits the layer) | 16:47 |
| yvl | comments say it's BBB naming | 16:47 |
| yvl | whatever that means | 16:47 |
| aelkner | did you change that, and it worked? | 16:48 |
| yvl | yes | 16:48 |
| aelkner | what files did you need to change? | 16:48 |
| yvl | schooltool/niepa/app/skin.py | 16:48 |
| aelkner | ok, thanks, that helps a lot | 16:48 |
| yvl | as for removing links | 16:49 |
| yvl | replaceafill and th1a are right | 16:49 |
| aelkner | th1a, so i could revert the custom action viewlet idea and try adding the links to the standard manager | 16:49 |
| yvl | if you want most (or all) of them | 16:49 |
| yvl | you should keep the good old viewlet manager | 16:49 |
| yvl | it is possible to disable unwanted links IIRC | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | schooltool.skin.skin.DisableNavigationViewlet | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | for the class of the viewlet | 16:50 |
| aelkner | ok, thanks, i can look into that | 16:51 |
| aelkner | so david also had confusions with the journal | 16:51 |
| yvl | yes, define the disabled viewlet for each of the unwanted links, on your own skin | 16:51 |
| aelkner | figuring out what was a month, day of month, period id | 16:52 |
| aelkner | i helped him recognize the screen elements | 16:53 |
| aelkner | i was disappointed that he didn't mention the demo fields | 16:53 |
| aelkner | but when i pointed them out, he liked what he saw | 16:54 |
| th1a | That is probably just because he isn't a teacher. | 16:54 |
| th1a | (the journal questions) | 16:54 |
| aelkner | yeah | 16:54 |
| th1a | If you've ever done it on paper it wouldn't be confusing. | 16:54 |
| aelkner | so he said that the demo is postponed for dec 16th, one week later | 16:55 |
| aelkner | i can't say that i'm disappointed, there seems to be a lot to address | 16:55 |
| th1a | I don't know what to think, really. | 16:55 |
| th1a | But as long as we're fixing things that need fixing anyhow, it is ok. | 16:56 |
| aelkner | i started working on the census pdf, but just started it | 16:57 |
| aelkner | this week, i can get that done, in time for the supposed new demo date | 16:57 |
| th1a | It is worth doing. | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks aelkner. | 16:58 |
| th1a | replaceafill? We've been keeping you jumping. | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | it's fun though ;) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'm still in the gradebook preferences work | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | i'm in the UI part now | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | i also tested the cando hiccup reported by dwelsh | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | tried some applications to 'simulate' the hiccup, but didnt get the same results | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | actually the apps simulate slow bandwith, not timeouts | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i guess the ACC trouble are timeouts | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | but as i reported, the gradebook template for cando can be cleaned | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | a little | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | also, i tested the scripts aks created for building rpms for schooltool | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | i just sent him my findings | 17:01 |
| th1a | So... are there separate requests taking place to load the comps? | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ? | 17:02 |
| th1a | Are some parts being loaded separately by javascript requests? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | ah yes, two different views | 17:03 |
| th1a | How does that work? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | one for the view template and one for the javascript template | 17:03 |
| th1a | And the js one is timing out? | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | in the view, there's a <link ...> tag that calls another view that generates the javascript | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | the first problem is that the javascript code uses onload on the body tag | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook has TWO body tags! | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | and the onload=... is in the second one... | 17:04 |
| th1a | Could that be causing the problem in itself? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | th1a, probably, that + slow bandwith | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | not sure though | 17:05 |
| th1a | I mean, one reason the web works is that you generally don't render a page when it isn't complete. | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:05 |
| th1a | Once that starts happening on a form, you're screwed. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Slow would be preferable. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | i'd like to at least move the onload to the right body tag and ask dwelsh to test it | 17:06 |
| th1a | Exactly. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | but, if i'm cleaning that little part, i could clean other parts of the same template? | 17:06 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:07 |
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| replaceafill | will ask dwelsh for permission on the acc server to set a testing instance | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | so they have the same setup | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | or almost | 17:07 |
| th1a | At this point don't spend two days trying to recreate the bug. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:07 |
| th1a | Just do the obvious fixes and let them try it. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | oh ok | 17:08 |
| th1a | If it is still broken, then we may need to figure out how to replicate it. | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | will do that then | 17:08 |
| th1a | OK, sounds like you're set for the week then, replaceafill. | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | btw, just to point out, no news from javier yet | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | th1a, that's all from me | 17:09 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Thanks! | 17:10 |
| th1a | menesis? | 17:10 |
| menesis | last week did a few things | 17:11 |
| menesis | investigated the cando issue that teachers names are not accessible | 17:11 |
| menesis | reverted that change in schooltool/1.4 and re-released | 17:12 |
| menesis | that fixed cando failure that was happening for a week | 17:12 |
| menesis | then updated release notes in the book and sent an announcement | 17:12 |
| menesis | later, worked on ubuntu packages | 17:13 |
| menesis | updated status page that is published to print less noise | 17:13 |
| menesis | added links to ppa and status pages to the wiki, emailed Daniel & Co | 17:14 |
| menesis | they uploaded a few packages, still sitting in the NEW queue | 17:14 |
| menesis | Daniel pointed out some problems, mostly about licenses | 17:14 |
| menesis | wrote email to zope-dev about that | 17:15 |
| menesis | got a few replies, a couple packages were fixed | 17:15 |
| menesis | updated schooltool versions to use them | 17:15 |
| menesis | splitted schooltool/1.5 for maverick versions and releases | 17:16 |
| menesis | schooltool/trunk now points to 1.6 (on ftp.s.o) | 17:16 |
| menesis | Uploaded some 30 packages to the PPA | 17:17 |
| th1a | What is the NEW queue? | 17:17 |
| menesis | when someone uploads a package, either me or a sponsor, it first goes to the NEW queue | 17:18 |
| menesis | they have to be reviewed by archive admins, only then they go on and are built and published | 17:18 |
| menesis | new packages take some time to go through | 17:19 |
| menesis | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=zope | 17:19 |
| th1a | At that point it is pretty much out of our hands, correct? | 17:19 |
| menesis | yes | 17:20 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:20 |
| th1a | And the problems that have been pointed out have been caught prior to that point, correct? | 17:20 |
| menesis | this time, yes | 17:20 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:20 |
| menesis | but some times archive admins can reject an upload | 17:21 |
| th1a | Do you know if the archive admins are looking for anything in particular? | 17:21 |
| menesis | I know that they carefully check licenses and copyrights | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:22 |
| menesis | maybe something else, but I try to check everything myself | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK, well, keep at it. | 17:23 |
| th1a | I'll try to not throw more distractions at you. | 17:23 |
| th1a | Anything else? | 17:26 |
| menesis | that's it | 17:26 |
| th1a | OK, a couple words about bonuses next year. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Everyone is eligible for bonuses. | 17:26 |
| th1a | They'll be based on roughly three week's worth of work. | 17:27 |
| th1a | You won't always be working on a bonus project, as there will be transition time between. | 17:27 |
| th1a | You won't end one on June 30 and start a new one on July 1. | 17:27 |
| th1a | And we'll be planning and discussing these targets publicly (here). | 17:28 |
| th1a | So you might have 10 bonus opportunities a year. | 17:28 |
| th1a | Does that generally make sense? | 17:29 |
| th1a | Maybe 8. | 17:29 |
| th1a | And slightly bigger ones for the releases. | 17:29 |
| yvl | bonuses for smaller time frames make sense to me | 17:30 |
| th1a | Oh... yvl! | 17:31 |
| yvl | hi :) | 17:31 |
| th1a | Yes, and your report? ;-) | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:31 |
| yvl | slow progress on timetable UI last week | 17:31 |
| yvl | development seems to be picking up the pace though | 17:32 |
| yvl | z3c.form is a real disappointment when it comes to something more complex than a trivial form | 17:32 |
| yvl | (to be fair - formlib is disappointing there also) | 17:32 |
| yvl | I'm actually afraid to give any estimates now | 17:33 |
| yvl | as in - scared to the bones :) | 17:33 |
| th1a | Well, please wrap it up before the end of the year. | 17:34 |
| yvl | I understand why | 17:34 |
| yvl | my target is to wrap it up until Christmas | 17:34 |
| th1a | Make it so. | 17:34 |
| yvl | hence - should be in somewhat usable shape untill 19th | 17:35 |
| yvl | well, that's that | 17:36 |
| th1a | OK then. Thanks yvl. | 17:36 |
| th1a | yvl, menesis and I are going to have a conference call on Thursday with the Critical Links guys. | 17:37 |
| th1a | Have a great week gentlemen! | 17:38 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:38 | |
| yvl | thanks | 17:38 |
| yvl | a great week for you all! | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:39 |
| aelkner | thanks all | 17:40 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, i was able to reproduce the 'undefined' problem (changing the competency group in the gradebook quickly several times) | 21:03 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | and after moving the javascript code into the template i cannot reproduce it anymore | 21:03 |
| th1a | Fixing that "body" problem? | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | that too | 21:03 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 21:03 |
| th1a | That's probably the problem. | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | i think there are javascript functions that can be loaded from external src=... script tags | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | and maybe the dynamic parts of javascript should be put in the same template | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | that way, we guarantee that the dynamic parts are calculated *before* the template rendering | 21:05 |
| th1a | That sounds right. | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | function setWarning(text, bg){ | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | document.getElementById('warningtext').innerHTML = text; | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | document.getElementById('warning').style.backgroundColor = bg; | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | } | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | for example | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | i'll wait for matt's reply to my sudo request and will set up a testing instance | 21:06 |
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| aelkner | dadeng, hey | 23:28 |
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