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| mandi | i seem to have forgotten my password to login - is there a way to change it? | 09:15 |
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| mandi | is anyone here today? | 21:11 |
| th1a | mandi: I am. | 21:11 |
| th1a | Hi! | 21:11 |
| mandi | hi! i tried asking a question late last night, but i guess everyone else was asleep - LOL | 21:11 |
| mandi | i was wondering how detailed we can get in the assignment entry in schooltool | 21:11 |
| mandi | i was thinking of using it for our homeschool | 21:12 |
| th1a | Assignment entry? | 21:12 |
| mandi | well, the journal and gradebook | 21:12 |
| mandi | i know the journal is for attendance and participation, but can you enter details in the appoinment on the calednar? | 21:13 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:13 |
| th1a | I have to admit the integration between the gradebook, journal and calendar is not as smooth as it ought to be, though. | 21:13 |
| mandi | so i could enter what i want the student to do on the calendar and it could act as their task list for the assignment? | 21:13 |
| th1a | Well, calendar events aren't directly tied to gradebook activities, if that's what you mean. | 21:15 |
| th1a | Although that's certainly a feature I'd like to get to. | 21:15 |
| mandi | maybe i should explain a little further - local law requires that as part of our records, we include a lesson plan book, daily diary, or log of activities | 21:15 |
| mandi | it can't just have a grade, it has to include what was done to earn the grade | 21:16 |
| mandi | i recently switched from windows to ubuntu and my favorite program is not supported in ubuntu, so i'm looking for a linux replacement to what i had | 21:17 |
| th1a | Sorry... my wife came home and distracted me... | 21:30 |
| th1a | OK. | 21:30 |
| th1a | mandi: Did you look at this? http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/gradebook.html#creating-an-activity | 21:31 |
| mandi | i did go through the whole book late last night, but i'm looking it over again - one sec | 21:32 |
| mandi | is there a way to create a report of the activities for a course/section? | 21:32 |
| th1a | With the description? I'm not sure if the printed reports include that, but if not we could create on easily enough. It is certainly something we should have. | 21:33 |
| mandi | yes! a report that would include the description of the assignment would be wonderful! | 21:34 |
| th1a | I actually should look myself at the existing reports as those have changed relatively recently. | 21:36 |
| th1a | aelkner: ayt? | 21:36 |
| mandi | i've only been able to see two reports - report card and detailed student report | 21:38 |
| mandi | i did just find the absences by section report as well | 21:38 |
| mandi | and i believe i'm only seeing those in the admin login, correct? but, i can change the limitations to make my teacher login have access to those as well, rigth? | 21:39 |
| th1a | Well... not necessarily. | 21:40 |
| th1a | I have to check. | 21:40 |
| mandi | ok, i just got a server error when trying to access the gradebook from the teacher login | 21:41 |
| th1a | Can you paste the error message in a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+filebug | 21:42 |
| mandi | yeah, i will | 21:42 |
| mandi | k, bug reported | 21:48 |
| th1a | Regarding the permissions on reports, they might be a little tighter than necessary. | 21:48 |
| th1a | We tend to error or that side. | 21:48 |
| mandi | it's not a big deal, but it would be nice if there was a place that listed ALL the reports available | 21:49 |
| th1a | Basically, we decided we should actually write more reports first and then organize them. | 21:49 |
| mandi | makes sense | 21:49 |
| th1a | Because when you organize things first, you tend to guess wrong about what you're going to need. | 21:49 |
| mandi | i guess school tool is not yet what i'm looking for | 21:49 |
| th1a | We've done that plenty of times. | 21:49 |
| mandi | i understand | 21:50 |
| mandi | i've done that a lot too with other things | 21:50 |
| th1a | Well... we're close, I think. | 21:50 |
| mandi | i don't know - i'm homeschooling 4 kids, all at different grade levels, and i need something where i can print one report that tells me what to do today | 21:50 |
| mandi | even entering the assignment details in the gradebook, I still would not be able to see it all in one shot | 21:51 |
| th1a | That is a special case. | 21:51 |
| mandi | :D i know | 21:51 |
| mandi | i'm thinking of developing something myself for the homeschool community, but i wouldn't even know where to start | 21:51 |
| th1a | Hm... and you're running Linux... | 21:51 |
| mandi | as i mentioned before, there is a program available for Windows only (.NET framework - won't work in WINE) and it has almost everything I'm looking for | 21:52 |
| th1a | What is it called? | 21:52 |
| mandi | there's a free website available, but it has some flaws as well - not as sophisticated as the Windows program | 21:52 |
| mandi | Home School Tracker Plus (Basic version is also available for free but doesn't work in Linux) | 21:52 |
| mandi | the free website is Homeschool SkedTrack | 21:53 |
| mandi | and I like school tool because it's local instead of internet based, but it's not really built for homeschoolers :D | 21:53 |
| mandi | i made some notes this morning of what i'm looking for, but i'm not quite sure how to build it | 21:54 |
| th1a | Yeah, it is a different situation. | 21:54 |
| mandi | also - regarding school tool - i couldn't quite figure out the resources section, and there wasn't anything in the tutorial about it | 21:54 |
| th1a | To be perfectly honest, if I were you I'd try Filemaker, but that doesn't work on Linux either. | 21:54 |
| th1a | Yes... I should be writing more documentation. | 21:55 |
| th1a | Resources just lets a school schedule shared resources, rooms, computers, that kind of thing. | 21:55 |
| mandi | i don't mind the web browser interface, and it might be easier than making a completely freestanding program, but I don't know anything about a LAMP setup and such | 21:56 |
| th1a | There are surprisingly few good end-user database apps like Filemaker, particularly that are free software. | 21:57 |
| th1a | Where "few" = "none that I'm aware of." | 21:57 |
| mandi | i see | 21:58 |
| mandi | well, thank you for your time - i'm not giving up, i just don't have time to "mess with it" right now | 21:59 |
| th1a | Sure. Good luck! | 21:59 |
| mandi | i do have a dual-boot setup on my computer, so I will continue to use the windows program i mentioned, but i will certainly keep up with any updates you make to school tool because i think it's a great system and can have great meaning for me | 21:59 |
| th1a | By the way, you can easily google a guy named Steve Hargadon, who is both a homeschooler and a big open source advocate. | 21:59 |
| mandi | thank you | 21:59 |
| mandi | i will - thanks! | 22:00 |
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