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| ignas | jstraw: hi | 16:53 |
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| th1a | Yes, talk to jstraw ;-) | 16:54 |
| ignas | what would I do without management ;) | 16:56 |
| jstraw | hi | 16:56 |
| * jstraw pulls out an axtinguisher on th1a | 16:57 | |
| jstraw | we need to add 1 piece of data to the spreadsheet | 16:58 |
| jstraw | the Student Testing Number | 16:58 |
| th1a | That's what I said! | 16:58 |
| jstraw | yes, but mine is more clear | 16:58 |
| ignas | yeah, th1a missed the "added part" thus I got confused | 17:01 |
| ignas | so yeah - the spreadsheet is the format that should be used | 17:01 |
| ignas | overriding the import view and using a different Student importer for cando should be pretty straightforward | 17:02 |
| jstraw | k | 17:05 |
| jstraw | the other pieces I talked a bit with th1a about, but in the end it comes to either me/mattva01 or the project writing an init script that can deal with multiple instances | 17:10 |
| ignas | hmm | 17:10 |
| ignas | depends on how you are deploying everything | 17:10 |
| jstraw | and then me updating my backup scripts to do multiple instances | 17:10 |
| ignas | but yeah, I guess one script for all instances is probably the best way | 17:10 |
| jstraw | well, that's why I am bringing it up, I was thinking that a standard method was the best choice | 17:11 |
| ignas | standard? | 17:11 |
| ignas | are you going to deploy it using debian/ubuntu tools (package debs) or as a checkout + multiple instances created using make-schooltool-instance | 17:12 |
| jstraw | ignas: preference would be dpkg, but I can make my checkout + multiple instances to use the dpkg deployment locations | 17:14 |
| jstraw | :) | 17:14 |
| jstraw | (or at least, I can make it all *work* | 17:14 |
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| ignas | well - cando is not a deb at the moment | 17:16 |
| ignas | which can be fixed I guess | 17:16 |
| ignas | but integrating postinst scripts with multiple deployments might be quite tricky | 17:16 |
| ignas | as I didn't really think about that usecase/ nor am aware of how it's usually solved | 17:17 |
| ignas | are there any debian server packages that support multiple separate instances of the same server? | 17:17 |
| ignas | postinst scrtips matter because they stop all servers, backup data.fs, start all servers | 17:17 |
| ignas | jstraw: as for export/import - either ask them to provide excel spreadsheets, or ask them to provide some data in formats that they can (like csv) and reformat it into excel (easy to do using xlwt) to get it imported using standard import views | 17:21 |
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| dwelsh | th1a: you around? | 17:21 |
| ignas | dwelsh: he was here 20 minutes ago | 17:21 |
| dwelsh | gotcha | 17:21 |
| dwelsh | Happy New Year to everyone! | 17:21 |
| ignas | Happy New Year to you ;) | 17:22 |
| dwelsh | Looking forward to seeing the gang in Feb. | 17:22 |
| jstraw | ignas: buildbot? | 17:25 |
| jstraw | and for import, we're thinking that we'll give them the spreadsheet and ask them to fill it in | 17:26 |
| th1a | dwelsh: th1a is out of the shower. | 17:26 |
| ignas | jstraw: I am not considering buildbot (you are running another twisted server! maybe I have failed to shut down last time properly?) a good example ;) | 17:27 |
| jstraw | ignas: heh | 17:27 |
| jstraw | I have a lot of twisted things... that twisted server is just one ;) | 17:27 |
| jstraw | jelkner seemed to think it happened all the time with z2 stuff | 17:28 |
| jelkner | on ubuntu it does | 17:30 |
| jelkner | you create instances and they automatically get started by the init.d script | 17:30 |
| ignas | jelkner: hmm, but what about evolution and backups? | 17:37 |
| ignas | i guess i'll have to look at it | 17:37 |
| ignas | jstraw: if you would prototype something like this it would be kind of cool | 17:38 |
| ignas | jstraw: you and Mathew have more experience running web servers than I do... | 17:39 |
| jstraw | k | 17:40 |
| jstraw | and the ssl thing that dwelsh posted... that's an apache issue | 17:40 |
| jstraw | Matt and I need to figure out how to get 8 ssl encrypted instances on 1 IP to do ssl properly | 17:40 |
| ignas | yeah, schooltool is not really involved in that | 17:41 |
| ignas | jstraw: if Cando could finance either Mat or you looking at schooltool server packages (schooltool-common, schooltool-2008) and maybe even fixing them and making them good - it would be fantastic, as I am really struggling with debian/shell/server stuff most of the time | 17:44 |
| jstraw | I think we need to do it anyways | 17:45 |
| jstraw | cause if schooltool-cando is ever going to get released | 17:45 |
| jstraw | we'll need to do that stuff | 17:45 |
| jstraw | (and Matt is an accomplished ubuntu packager... so he should have some idea on where to go) | 17:45 |
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| ignas | jstraw: FYI - import code handles updating for most of the simple objects too | 19:36 |
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| ignas | jstraw: so if they get info like gender later - you can just import the new persons spreadsheet on top of the old data and get everything updated | 19:37 |
| jstraw | nice | 19:37 |
| jstraw | how's export coming ;) | 19:37 |
| ignas | jstraw: it's there and it's working, but i am slowly rewriting it and making it more testable | 19:41 |
| jstraw | cool | 19:42 |
| jstraw | I can't imagine that reading an xls file is easy to test | 19:42 |
| ignas | which is why I am comming up with an intermediate format of some kinf | 19:45 |
| ignas | kind | 19:45 |
| ignas | that is easier to display in text mode | 19:45 |
| ignas | (the styles are the tricky part) | 19:45 |
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| dwelsh | th1a: you there? | 21:34 |
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