IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2008-07-16

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jstrawhi Aiste18:51
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jstrawhi jelkner20:13
jelknerjstraw: hi jason20:24
jelknerwhere are you?20:24
jstrawacc20:30
jelkneris welsh there?20:31
jstrawteaching20:32
jelknerahh20:32
jelknerwhen does he return?20:33
jelkneri would very much like to talk to him today20:34
jstraw4:3020:35
jelknerand you are there until?20:35
jstraw420:35
jstrawI have to buy dinner20:36
jstrawand be home before 4:4520:36
jelknerso you won't see him before you leave?20:36
jstrawI can poke him in a break20:46
jelknerplease20:46
jelkneri'll give him a call as soon as he is available20:46
jstrawhe's on break for 9 minutes20:51
jstrawcall now20:51
jstrawhi?20:53
jstrawjelkner:20:53
jelknerwill do20:53
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jstrawreplaceafill: hi?20:55
replaceafilljstraw, hi20:56
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jelknerth1a__: u here?21:09
th1a_I am here.21:10
*** th1a_ is now known as th1a21:10
jelkneri would like to introduce you to someone21:10
jelknerth1a: meet douglas (replaceafill)21:10
th1ahi replaceafill!21:11
jstrawwhaddon: I see you noticed you have commit access21:11
jelknerreplaceafill: meet tom hoffman (th1a)21:11
replaceafillth1a, nice to meet(?) u tom :)21:11
th1areplaceafill is the Grok programmer in El Salvador?21:11
jelknerindeed21:12
replaceafillth1a, :)21:12
whaddonjstraw: i do?21:12
jstrawyea21:13
whaddongood. thank you21:13
jstrawnot sure what the password is ;)21:13
jstrawit is whatever you used last year21:13
whaddonthat's probably what i want21:14
th1aWell, Zope 3 developers are scarce resources, so we will try to nurture replaceafill however we can.21:14
whaddonit is https, right?21:14
jstrawyea21:14
jstrawshould be21:14
replaceafillth1a, ironic :D21:14
whaddongood. let me see if i have something to commit right now.21:15
wjohnstohello jelkner21:15
wjohnstowhaddon: you can commit the changes I made in gobby21:15
whaddonok21:16
jelknerwjohnsto: hi21:16
replaceafillth1a, i've been using z3 since 2005 i guess21:17
th1aWow.21:17
replaceafillth1a, i think i got it right now :)21:18
replaceafillth1a, it's magic21:18
th1aI've never gotten it quite right myself.21:18
replaceafillth1a, i won't tell u anything new, but the CA its great21:18
replaceafillth1a, and since last year i started to use grok21:19
replaceafillth1a, goodbye zcml!21:19
replaceafill:D21:19
th1aignas thinks it will be easy to integrate grok.component.21:19
replaceafillcool!21:19
th1aSo we should be able to start down that path more easily than I thought.21:19
th1aBasically, as Grok can modularize more parts, we should be able to absorb them.21:20
replaceafill:O21:20
replaceafilli was reading about the cando integration last may21:21
replaceafilli guess jeffrey told u, but i learned z3 reading schooltool code21:21
th1aYes.21:21
th1aWe're one of the few examples of big open source projects using z3.21:22
replaceafilli remember when i was wondering how to store someones picture in an object!21:22
replaceafilland there was schooltool which taught me how21:22
replaceafill:)21:22
th1aI hope we were doing it correctly.21:23
replaceafilland from small thing to small thing i get it21:23
th1aDid you use Zope 2 before?21:24
replaceafilli started learning z221:24
replaceafillttw was great21:24
replaceafillreally easy21:24
replaceafillread the Zope Book :)21:24
replaceafillbut never had the chance to use it in a real project21:25
replaceafillzope X3 (i guess) came and i never got back :)21:25
th1aAre you using the ZODB with Grok?21:27
replaceafillyes21:28
replaceafilldo u use zodb or sql?21:28
th1aZODB.21:29
replaceafilli feel its a lot faster21:29
replaceafillthe development i mean21:29
jelknerback to teacher work for me21:30
jelknerreplaceafill, see you tuesday morning21:30
replaceafilljelkner, hope u get better21:30
jelknerthanks21:30
replaceafilljelkner, see you21:30
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replaceafillth1a, well tom, im leaving lunch time here :)21:31
replaceafillth1a, r u in arlington too?21:31
th1aI am in Providence, Rhode Island.  Near Boston.21:31
replaceafillth1a, :O21:31
th1aWell, nice meeting you replaceafill, and hope to see you around more.21:32
replaceafillth1a, well, i'm at you guys service, ok?21:32
replaceafillth1a, if i can help u it would be an honor21:33
th1aWe will take you up on that ;-)21:33
replaceafillth1a, i still dont believe it21:33
replaceafilli thought i'd die without knowing another z3 developer21:33
th1aYou must have been surprised when jelkner came into your office.21:33
whaddonjstraw: is there a way to reset my password? none of the passwords i can remember work.21:33
jstrawwhaddon: yes21:34
jstrawsec21:34
replaceafillth1a, surprised is too small of a word21:34
th1a:-)21:34
replaceafillth1a, in my mind i was "are you kidding me..."21:34
th1aI told Martijn Faassen jelkner met you.21:35
th1aHe thought it was pretty funny.21:35
replaceafill:)21:35
replaceafillth1a, we just redesigned CDC's website and i mailed the grok list21:36
replaceafillth1a, martijn replied21:37
replaceafillhes really cool21:37
th1aHe's a nice guy.21:37
replaceafilli've seen his talks on zope 3 and grok21:38
replaceafillthey're funny :D21:38
replaceafillwell tom, it's been my pleasure21:39
th1aYes.  Go have lunch.  I've got to find a power cord that's gone missing...21:39
replaceafill:O21:39
* jstraw hides a power cord behind his back21:39
th1aTalk to you again soon.21:39
replaceafill:D21:39
replaceafillok bye guys21:40
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whaddonjstraw: are you sure the "realm" thing is supposed to be Cando?21:57
whaddonwhen I try to commit it says Authentication realm: <https://svn.schooltool.org:443> Cando Repository21:59
whaddonshould it be "Cando Repository" instead of "Cando"?21:59
jstrawuh21:59
jstrawI just took the password part21:59
jstrawand pasted it onto your line21:59
jstrawbrb22:00
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