IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2008-07-14

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th1aIn case you were wondering we aren't having a meeting this morning.15:21
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jstraw'morning th1a, whaddon16:27
whaddonmorning16:27
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jstrawhi fsufitch16:32
fsufitchjstraw: hello16:32
fsufitchi assume ur in the ACC?16:32
jstrawnah16:32
jstrawI'm at home still16:32
fsufitchheh16:32
fsufitchook16:33
jstrawI'll be in before noon16:33
fsufitchk16:33
th1ahi jstraw.16:35
jstrawnot going to be much of a meeting today with aelkner stranded...16:35
th1aI'm not planning on meeting.16:36
th1aAlthough if you have something to say...16:36
jstrawk16:40
jstrawthen I'll probably go back to writing my job app16:40
jstrawth1a: it would be nice if the topic could be updated if there was not going to be a meeting16:41
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*** Lumiere changes topic to "´╗┐SchoolTool development | launchpad-ppa for SchoolTool-2008 is now available | No Dev Meeting Jul 14 | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you! | Build Status: http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot"16:42
Lumiereeven something like that16:42
th1aLumiere: Yes.  I normally announce it but my entire sense of time and what day it is is completely shot right now.16:48
Lumiereah16:48
Lumierejet lag frw16:48
th1aSo I didn't even think about it.16:48
Lumieres/r/t/16:49
th1aI got up Sunday at 6:00 AM Lithuania time.16:49
Lumiereeww16:49
th1aLanded here at 11:30 EDT.16:49
th1a(wasn't travelling the whole time)16:49
Lumiereand now you're trying to stay up till a sane hour tonight16:52
Lumiereto try and get your body back on schedule16:52
th1aIn theory.16:53
fsufitchLumiere: ping16:57
Lumiereyea16:57
fsufitchhow should i go about determining whether a principal can modify a student comp gradebook?16:57
fsufitchand i mean conceptually16:57
Lumierefsufitch: a spreadsheet16:57
fsufitch*sigh* no, that's not what i meant16:57
fsufitchi mean like16:58
Lumierelol16:58
fsufitchi have the spreadsheet16:58
fsufitchbut who can edit it?16:58
Lumierethe only people who can edit a section gradebook16:58
Lumiereare the instructors of the section16:58
fsufitchit's not a section gradebook16:59
fsufitchit's a student gradebook16:59
Lumiereyes it is16:59
Lumierestudent gradebooks16:59
Lumiereare part of a section16:59
Lumiere:)16:59
fsufitchit could be a skilldriver gradebook16:59
fsufitchand skilldrivers could be part of a course16:59
Lumierebut you got to it from a section16:59
fsufitchi dont think that's how the traversal works16:59
fsufitchlemme see17:00
fsufitchif that's it, then that's great!17:00
Lumierefsufitch: it may not be, but all gradebooks for a section should be edit for instructor and view for that student17:00
fsufitchi know17:00
fsufitchLumiere: that _is_ how it works17:02
fsufitchyay!17:02
Lumierelol17:02
Lumiereyay for common sense!17:03
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fsufitchhttp://localhost/sections/1/skilldrivers/watev/gradeCompetencies17:03
fsufitch... what did u just do?17:03
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th1aIn the long run, SchoolTool will have a configuration option for whether school administrators and site managers can change gradebook grades.17:04
th1aSome schools would want that.17:04
Lumiereyes17:05
Lumiereth1a: permission configuration could be pretty easily cleaned up17:05
th1aI think it is ok right now.17:06
Lumierethere is no permission configuration right now really17:06
Lumierethere is access controls... but they're so global that they're useless17:06
th1aThere is a set of things you can check or uncheck.17:06
th1aWhy shouldn't they be global?17:06
th1aSchool policies tend to be global.17:07
Lumierenot really17:07
Lumierecertainly not including unauthenticated users17:07
Lumierewhich is how global schooltool's access controls are17:07
Lumiereyou check that box and anyone, INCLUDING GOOGLE... has access17:07
Lumierewe got bitten by that 2 years ago17:07
Lumiereand I am pretty sure it isn't changed17:08
th1aWell... that's more a matter of how that particular item is set up.17:09
Lumieremy preference would be to put that set of clicks17:09
Lumiere(checkboxes or whatever) as access controls to a group17:10
Lumierethen you just add a control "Can edit gradebooks they don't own"17:10
Lumiereand you choose a group that can do it17:10
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wjohnstohello all17:22
Lumierehi17:22
wjohnstoI am back from the funeral17:23
wjohnstoIs there anything I can do?17:27
Lumierecheck in with filip/welsh17:29
wjohnstook17:29
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jstraw/topic´╗┐SchoolTool development | launchpad-ppa for SchoolTool-2008 is now available | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you! | Build Status: http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot20:45
*** jstraw changes topic to "´╗┐SchoolTool development | launchpad-ppa for SchoolTool-2008 is now available | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you! | Build Status: http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot"20:45
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