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| th1a | In case you were wondering we aren't having a meeting this morning. | 15:21 |
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| jstraw | 'morning th1a, whaddon | 16:27 |
| whaddon | morning | 16:27 |
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| jstraw | hi fsufitch | 16:32 |
| fsufitch | jstraw: hello | 16:32 |
| fsufitch | i assume ur in the ACC? | 16:32 |
| jstraw | nah | 16:32 |
| jstraw | I'm at home still | 16:32 |
| fsufitch | heh | 16:32 |
| fsufitch | ook | 16:33 |
| jstraw | I'll be in before noon | 16:33 |
| fsufitch | k | 16:33 |
| th1a | hi jstraw. | 16:35 |
| jstraw | not going to be much of a meeting today with aelkner stranded... | 16:35 |
| th1a | I'm not planning on meeting. | 16:36 |
| th1a | Although if you have something to say... | 16:36 |
| jstraw | k | 16:40 |
| jstraw | then I'll probably go back to writing my job app | 16:40 |
| jstraw | th1a: it would be nice if the topic could be updated if there was not going to be a meeting | 16:41 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Lumiere | 16:42 | |
| *** Lumiere changes topic to "SchoolTool development | launchpad-ppa for SchoolTool-2008 is now available | No Dev Meeting Jul 14 | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you! | Build Status: http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot" | 16:42 | |
| Lumiere | even something like that | 16:42 |
| th1a | Lumiere: Yes. I normally announce it but my entire sense of time and what day it is is completely shot right now. | 16:48 |
| Lumiere | ah | 16:48 |
| Lumiere | jet lag frw | 16:48 |
| th1a | So I didn't even think about it. | 16:48 |
| Lumiere | s/r/t/ | 16:49 |
| th1a | I got up Sunday at 6:00 AM Lithuania time. | 16:49 |
| Lumiere | eww | 16:49 |
| th1a | Landed here at 11:30 EDT. | 16:49 |
| th1a | (wasn't travelling the whole time) | 16:49 |
| Lumiere | and now you're trying to stay up till a sane hour tonight | 16:52 |
| Lumiere | to try and get your body back on schedule | 16:52 |
| th1a | In theory. | 16:53 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: ping | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | yea | 16:57 |
| fsufitch | how should i go about determining whether a principal can modify a student comp gradebook? | 16:57 |
| fsufitch | and i mean conceptually | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: a spreadsheet | 16:57 |
| fsufitch | *sigh* no, that's not what i meant | 16:57 |
| fsufitch | i mean like | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | lol | 16:58 |
| fsufitch | i have the spreadsheet | 16:58 |
| fsufitch | but who can edit it? | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | the only people who can edit a section gradebook | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | are the instructors of the section | 16:58 |
| fsufitch | it's not a section gradebook | 16:59 |
| fsufitch | it's a student gradebook | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | yes it is | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | student gradebooks | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | are part of a section | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | :) | 16:59 |
| fsufitch | it could be a skilldriver gradebook | 16:59 |
| fsufitch | and skilldrivers could be part of a course | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | but you got to it from a section | 16:59 |
| fsufitch | i dont think that's how the traversal works | 16:59 |
| fsufitch | lemme see | 17:00 |
| fsufitch | if that's it, then that's great! | 17:00 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: it may not be, but all gradebooks for a section should be edit for instructor and view for that student | 17:00 |
| fsufitch | i know | 17:00 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: that _is_ how it works | 17:02 |
| fsufitch | yay! | 17:02 |
| Lumiere | lol | 17:02 |
| Lumiere | yay for common sense! | 17:03 |
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| fsufitch | http://localhost/sections/1/skilldrivers/watev/gradeCompetencies | 17:03 |
| fsufitch | ... what did u just do? | 17:03 |
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| th1a | In the long run, SchoolTool will have a configuration option for whether school administrators and site managers can change gradebook grades. | 17:04 |
| th1a | Some schools would want that. | 17:04 |
| Lumiere | yes | 17:05 |
| Lumiere | th1a: permission configuration could be pretty easily cleaned up | 17:05 |
| th1a | I think it is ok right now. | 17:06 |
| Lumiere | there is no permission configuration right now really | 17:06 |
| Lumiere | there is access controls... but they're so global that they're useless | 17:06 |
| th1a | There is a set of things you can check or uncheck. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Why shouldn't they be global? | 17:06 |
| th1a | School policies tend to be global. | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | not really | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | certainly not including unauthenticated users | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | which is how global schooltool's access controls are | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | you check that box and anyone, INCLUDING GOOGLE... has access | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | we got bitten by that 2 years ago | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | and I am pretty sure it isn't changed | 17:08 |
| th1a | Well... that's more a matter of how that particular item is set up. | 17:09 |
| Lumiere | my preference would be to put that set of clicks | 17:09 |
| Lumiere | (checkboxes or whatever) as access controls to a group | 17:10 |
| Lumiere | then you just add a control "Can edit gradebooks they don't own" | 17:10 |
| Lumiere | and you choose a group that can do it | 17:10 |
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| wjohnsto | hello all | 17:22 |
| Lumiere | hi | 17:22 |
| wjohnsto | I am back from the funeral | 17:23 |
| wjohnsto | Is there anything I can do? | 17:27 |
| Lumiere | check in with filip/welsh | 17:29 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 17:29 |
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| jstraw | /topicSchoolTool development | launchpad-ppa for SchoolTool-2008 is now available | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you! | Build Status: http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot | 20:45 |
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