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| Bhaskar | who know schooltool localization? | 09:19 |
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| ddaa | hey | 15:14 |
| ddaa | There's a guy whose nick is "Bhaskar" who keeps asking people (in the middle of the CET night) if they know schooltool. | 15:15 |
| ddaa | apparently he's interested in localization, but it's hard to tell because he seems not to speak a lot of english | 15:15 |
| mgedmin | I got an email from him | 15:16 |
| mgedmin | and I think he sent an email to the mailing list | 15:16 |
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| ddaa | great, yesterday night I suggested that he post to the mailing list | 15:16 |
| ddaa | I'm happy that he understood that much | 15:17 |
| ddaa | yay, svn2bzr with merge guessing just completed on the old schooltool dump | 15:18 |
| ddaa | uploading the code and the data now | 15:18 |
| ignas | thank you :) | 15:19 |
| ddaa | It also runs like 5x faster, uses less disk space, less RAM and produces much smaller repositories | 15:20 |
| ddaa | the only problem is that it's quite possible that some regress got through, because there's no good test suite | 15:21 |
| * ignas is using bzr visualize on the trunk + bzr annotate/log on some files that were in schoolbell and now are in schooltool | 15:23 | |
| ddaa | not uplodaded now | 15:23 |
| ddaa | the code just ran to completion | 15:24 |
| ddaa | just sharing theh excitement | 15:24 |
| ignas | i know, i am just telling you what i am using as a testcase | 15:24 |
| ignas | manual, not very reliable, but still gives an idea :) | 15:24 |
| ignas | src/schooltool/calendar/simple.py or src/schooltool/calendar/recurrent.py have revisions since the beginning of 2005 in svn | 15:25 |
| ignas | and make for interesting samples :) | 15:26 |
| ignas | Makefile is quite old too | 15:28 |
| ddaa | *nod* | 15:28 |
| ddaa | I'm lacking sleep today, and need to prepare for a week-end away from home. | 15:29 |
| ddaa | so I should not do any more hacking this week | 15:29 |
| ddaa | but I'm very interested in your feedback | 15:29 |
| ignas | will do some testing :) | 15:30 |
| ignas | ahhh :) good development practices test.py is in there since r8 :) | 15:33 |
| ddaa | mh... ha yeah there's a bug left in the way the branch-nick is generated | 15:34 |
| ddaa | will be easy fix though, a few minutes | 15:34 |
| ddaa | remind me about it next week | 15:35 |
| ignas | :) | 15:35 |
| ddaa | stuff uploaded http://people.ubuntu.com/~david/schooltool/ | 15:36 |
| ddaa | note that run-svn2bzr-st has been updated too | 15:36 |
| ignas | thank you :) downloading the st.bzr-6 | 15:40 |
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| ignas | jinty: are you there ? | 17:58 |
| jinty | ignas: yep | 18:00 |
| ignas | maybe you have some time to look at the http://source.schooltool.org/trac/changeset/6533 | 18:01 |
| ignas | changes to the Makefile | 18:01 |
| jinty | sure | 18:01 |
| ignas | as that might make it more difficult for you to package things | 18:01 |
| jinty | yes, I noticed you doing that, but you didn't put it in trunk | 18:02 |
| ignas | zope.html, zope.file and zope.mimetype are not packaged as eggs | 18:02 |
| ignas | so i had to do this | 18:02 |
| jinty | but the makefile stuff should be done via eggs eventually | 18:02 |
| ignas | yes as soon as someone will package these packages as eggs | 18:03 |
| ignas | i'll fix it | 18:03 |
| jinty | yeah, I'll probably have to eggify/package them as eggs when the time comes | 18:03 |
| ignas | with ddaa making such a wonderful job of converting schooltool repository to bzr | 18:03 |
| ignas | the switch might come sooner rather than later | 18:03 |
| jinty | what I'm more worried about is if someone will support these packages in the long term | 18:04 |
| ignas | well they are in zope corp repository, so they are being worked on | 18:04 |
| jinty | yes, we should spend a little time to get a testing bzr repository up on schooltool.org | 18:05 |
| jinty | s/we/I/ | 18:05 |
| ignas | you wouldn't mind if i merged fckeditor patch into trunk? | 18:06 |
| * jinty knows of lots of things in the zope repository not being worked on, wfmc for example | 18:06 | |
| ignas | well wfmc is a very specific thing | 18:07 |
| ignas | very domain specific | 18:07 |
| ignas | and you must drink a lot of kool aid to grok that stuff | 18:07 |
| jinty | yeah, but my point is that we need to be careful of the dependencies we allow... | 18:07 |
| jinty | not that I'm trying to do your job... | 18:08 |
| ignas | i understand your point ... | 18:08 |
| ignas | cando has fckeditor in their repository | 18:08 |
| jinty | which was the fckeditor patch? | 18:09 |
| ignas | http://source.schooltool.org/trac/changeset/6533 | 18:09 |
| jinty | I'm confused, I where's the source of fckeditor? | 18:10 |
| ignas | it's in zope.html | 18:11 |
| jinty | aaaah | 18:11 |
| ignas | from zope.html.field import HtmlFragment | 18:11 |
| ignas | as it might get fixed a bit by gintas or alga i want to keep it as an svn dependency | 18:12 |
| jinty | hmpf, looks nice then, I wonder if it'll work under Zope2 + Five | 18:12 |
| jinty | but yeah, merge the patch | 18:12 |
| ignas | you should see the bzr visualise output on the trunk/schooltool checkout from http://people.ubuntu.com/~david/schooltool/st.bzr-6.tgz | 18:13 |
| ignas | pure beauty | 18:13 |
| jinty | But we will have to back out the makefile part when we release and move towards eggs | 18:14 |
| ignas | better than anything i would have expected at least :) | 18:14 |
| ignas | jinty: gladly, as soon as someone will package these components as eggs | 18:14 |
| jinty | point noted;) | 18:14 |
| jinty | but what's the next step with bzr, are you satisfied with the migration? | 18:15 |
| jinty | Should I look into setting up a bzr repository on schooltool.org yet? | 18:15 |
| ignas | i think there are some minor fixes to be added, but all in all now i am sure that we will migrate to bzr | 18:17 |
| ignas | as it preserves all the history since rev1 and is pretty much losseless | 18:18 |
| jinty | cool, ok, I'll start investigating how to sysadmin a bzr repository | 18:19 |
| ignas | thanks :) | 18:19 |
| ignas | i don't want to make it too much work for you | 18:20 |
| ignas | i think it will make my job easier, but bzr is not something schooltool can't live without | 18:21 |
| jinty | add to that that the cando people want it and it'll make life politically easier and you have a number of good reasons | 18:22 |
| jinty | besides, for my sysadmin stuff, I'm paid | 18:23 |
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| m8ram | hi, I don't know Python or Zope but I would like to learn more about this projects setup. e.g. what database is used? Is the data model documented somewhere? | 20:26 |
| th1a | m8ram: SchoolTool uses the Zope Object Database. | 20:53 |
| th1a | It is an object database rather than a relational database. | 20:53 |
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| ignas | th1a: sent you the draft of my 3 quarter plan | 22:00 |
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