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Bhaskar | thla, hello | 05:40 |
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Bhaskar | thla, do u know schooltool | 05:47 |
Bhaskar | Aiste, hello | 05:47 |
joerg_ | hello | 05:48 |
joerg_ | it's 5 o'clock in the night here... | 05:48 |
joerg_ | and 6 o*clock in lithuania :) | 05:48 |
joerg_ | what do you expect? | 05:48 |
Bhaskar | joerge, do u know scholltool | 05:48 |
joerg_ | an answer? :D | 05:48 |
joerg_ | no, I know nothing... | 05:48 |
Bhaskar | Schooltool ,localization | 05:48 |
joerg_ | I just joined this channel to ask something about the lithuanian railways :D | 05:49 |
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Bhaskar | ignas,hello | 05:49 |
Bhaskar | who know about localization schooltool | 05:49 |
Bhaskar | thla, u know about schooltool | 05:51 |
Bhaskar | thla, what is the procedure to localize schooltool | 05:51 |
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Bhaskar | thla, are u there? | 05:58 |
joerg_ | go to your bed... | 06:01 |
joerg_ | sleep a few hours... | 06:01 |
joerg_ | and then return! | 06:01 |
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Bhaskar | thla, k cha | 08:43 |
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Bhaskar | ignas, do u know schooltool | 09:59 |
ignas | Bhaskar: yes | 09:59 |
Bhaskar | ignas, i mean localization work of schooltool | 09:59 |
ignas | translating schooltool from english to nepalese ? | 09:59 |
ignas | nepali | 09:59 |
Bhaskar | ignas: where r u from? | 10:00 |
ignas | Lithuania | 10:00 |
Bhaskar | ignas, in nepali i want to translate | 10:00 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in Lithuania this schooltool is implemented in school for pilot project? | 10:01 |
ignas | yes | 10:01 |
Bhaskar | ignas, can u give me idea about localization of schooltool? | 10:02 |
ignas | i can see you did some translation using launchpad rosetta | 10:02 |
ignas | i can't give you an idea | 10:02 |
ignas | but i can answer some questions | 10:02 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i translate some string in Nepali but can't success for whole | 10:03 |
ignas | ? | 10:04 |
Bhaskar | ignas: u know which organization is invilving for schooltool in urs country? | 10:05 |
ignas | not that there is any organisation | 10:05 |
ignas | if you can think of the company i am working for as an organisation then PoV would be it ... | 10:06 |
Bhaskar | ignas: where they trial for schooltool in urs country | 10:07 |
Bhaskar | povbot:hello | 10:07 |
ignas | one school agreed to work with us and help us make schooltool better | 10:08 |
Bhaskar | ignas: u work on development of software | 10:10 |
ignas | yes | 10:10 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i am involving in Nepal for school tool localization and customization | 10:10 |
ignas | so, anything i can help you ? | 10:11 |
Bhaskar | ignas, ofcourse u can help me | 10:11 |
ignas | how? | 10:12 |
Bhaskar | ignas: schooltool and schoolbell can run simultaneously how? | 10:12 |
ignas | you install schooltool, install schoolbell, run schooltool, run schoobell ... | 10:13 |
Bhaskar | ignas: both run at a time seems problem | 10:13 |
ignas | could you provide more details? | 10:14 |
ignas | operating system | 10:14 |
ignas | the way you have installed schoolbell/scchooltool | 10:15 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in Ubantu Dapper | 10:15 |
ignas | hmm | 10:17 |
ignas | so on ubuntu dapper schooltool and schoolbell don't run well at the same time? | 10:17 |
Bhaskar | ignas: ya | 10:17 |
Bhaskar | ignas: which OS u used? | 10:17 |
ignas | Ubuntu Edgy | 10:18 |
Bhaskar | ignas: any problem with Edgy | 10:18 |
ignas | and there is no schooltool and schoolbell on edgy | 10:18 |
ignas | because the project is focusing on schooltool at the moment | 10:18 |
Bhaskar | ignas: how u work? | 10:19 |
ignas | and we didn't release the newest version | 10:19 |
ignas | i am using the development version | 10:19 |
ignas | http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/ | 10:19 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in which part u work on schooltool? | 10:19 |
ignas | part? | 10:19 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i mean customization or translation or .... | 10:20 |
ignas | customization, functionality, features, bugs ... | 10:20 |
ignas | not doing much translation | 10:21 |
ignas | but did some things with localization | 10:21 |
Bhaskar | ignas: well | 10:21 |
Bhaskar | ignas: you use python? | 10:23 |
ignas | yes | 10:25 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in functionality, what are u doing? | 10:27 |
Bhaskar | ignas: urs office website? | 10:27 |
ignas | no | 10:27 |
ignas | schooltool gradebook, attendance, calendating, timetabling | 10:27 |
ignas | anything they need | 10:28 |
Bhaskar | ignas: urs office website? | 10:29 |
ignas | pov.lt ? | 10:29 |
Bhaskar | ignas:www.pov.it ? | 10:31 |
ignas | www.pov.lt | 10:31 |
ignas | LT not IT | 10:31 |
Bhaskar | ignas: can u upload your updates on schooltool in web? | 10:32 |
ignas | they are on web | 10:32 |
ignas | you should read about development server | 10:33 |
Bhaskar | ignas: development server??? | 10:34 |
ignas | http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/ | 10:34 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i know about this | 10:35 |
ignas | if you will set up this | 10:35 |
ignas | you will have all the newest features | 10:36 |
Bhaskar | ignas: well | 10:36 |
Bhaskar | ignas: about database file ,tell me | 10:37 |
Bhaskar | Aiste:hello | 10:37 |
Bhaskar | Aiste: share urs experience on schooltool | 10:37 |
Bhaskar | ignas: tell me about database in schooltool | 10:40 |
ignas | what precisely ? | 10:41 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in which location the database is there in schooltool | 10:42 |
ignas | depends | 10:42 |
ignas | in development checkout - schooltool-skel/var | 10:42 |
ignas | in ubuntu somewhere in /var/ | 10:42 |
Bhaskar | ignas: database in which ? i mean zope? | 10:45 |
ignas | ? | 10:46 |
Bhaskar | ignas: if i want to modify database what is the procedure? | 10:47 |
ignas | modify? | 10:47 |
ignas | what do you want to do to it? | 10:47 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i want to add some features that is fitted in Nepalise demand on school | 10:48 |
ignas | like what? | 10:48 |
Bhaskar | ignas: information of schoolmanagement commitee, school logo etc | 10:51 |
ignas | you can't do this without knowing python or Zope | 10:52 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i know little python and zope | 10:52 |
ignas | you should learn more | 10:53 |
Bhaskar | ignas: what kind of demand are there in urs country for schooltool | 10:53 |
ignas | demand? as in requirements? | 10:53 |
Bhaskar | ignas: for learning Zope and python , how can i start? | 10:53 |
ignas | google for tutorials on both | 10:54 |
ignas | and you want info on Zope3 | 10:54 |
Bhaskar | ignas: besides the feature of schooltool, what are the specific requirement in urs country's school | 10:55 |
Bhaskar | ignas: tell me about Zope? in brief | 10:55 |
ignas | Bhaskar: that's like asking to tell me about molecular dynamics in brief | 10:56 |
Bhaskar | ignas: no no | 10:56 |
ignas | i know that you are curious about hings but i don't really have the time to explain you everything | 10:57 |
ignas | and telling you about ZODB, Zope3, schooltool, lyceum requirements would take too much time | 10:57 |
ignas | and you can find all the information in http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | 10:57 |
ignas | or the schooltool mailing list | 10:57 |
ignas | or schooltool, zope, python websites yourself | 10:58 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in the context of schooltool , in which depth i need Zope? | 10:58 |
ignas | at least basics | 10:59 |
ignas | the Zope3 tutorial up to making a small content object | 10:59 |
ignas | to know what are views what is zcml | 10:59 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in schooltool database are kept in Zope object...? | 11:01 |
ignas | read about Zope3 | 11:01 |
Bhaskar | ignas: ok | 11:01 |
Bhaskar | ignas: but tell about structure of DB in schooltool.....? | 11:02 |
ignas | we are using ZODB - it is an object oriented database written in python | 11:06 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i should learn ZODB also ,ya | 11:07 |
ignas | not really, Zope3 tutorial covers all you will need | 11:07 |
Bhaskar | ignas:well | 11:07 |
Bhaskar | ignas:who (any urs friend) involving in localization os schooltool in urs office? | 11:08 |
ignas | involved ? | 11:09 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i need help for localization | 11:09 |
Bhaskar | ignas: tell me him mailing add | 11:10 |
ignas | what kind of help do you need? | 11:10 |
Bhaskar | i need help via mail for supporting in localization | 11:11 |
Bhaskar | ignas: there is training in urs office? | 11:11 |
ignas | no | 11:11 |
ignas | there is none | 11:12 |
ignas | so what precisely help do you need? | 11:12 |
ignas | no one can help you if you will not ask questions ... | 11:12 |
Bhaskar | ignas: well | 11:12 |
ignas | and what do you mean by the word "localization" ? | 11:13 |
Bhaskar | ignas: urs office can arrange training to us for schooltool? | 11:13 |
ignas | no | 11:13 |
Bhaskar | ignas: localization means customization, translation etc | 11:14 |
Bhaskar | ignas:msgid "Last ${weekday}" | 11:14 |
Bhaskar | msgstr "अन्तिम $ { weekday }" | 11:14 |
ignas | translation - use rosetta | 11:15 |
Bhaskar | ignas: in msgstr in {} the string is in english or i can change weekday in nepali i am in confuse?? | 11:16 |
ignas | no you leave it in english | 11:16 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i have translate in nepali but in right side of schooltool page i can't success to convert in nepali | 11:18 |
ignas | you are translating schooltool the application, not schooltool the website | 11:19 |
ignas | these two are different things | 11:19 |
Bhaskar | ignas:what is the problem? | 11:19 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i am translating schooltool application | 11:19 |
ignas | yes | 11:20 |
Bhaskar | ignas not website now | 11:20 |
ignas | oh | 11:20 |
Bhaskar | ignas: there is relation on schooltool with schoolBell? | 11:21 |
ignas | yes | 11:21 |
Bhaskar | ignas, if i convert schooltool in nepali , i must also for schoolbell for well conversion in nepali , ya? | 11:23 |
Bhaskar | ignas: simultaneously | 11:23 |
ignas | if only you would read all the information in the mailing list archives and ask questions then :/ | 11:24 |
ignas | as the new version of schooltool will be released only in a year or so, you should probably wait for the packaged release | 11:25 |
Bhaskar | ignas:well | 11:25 |
ignas | because i am afraid you don't have enough technical knowledge to work with the develppment version | 11:25 |
ignas | and the current schooltool/schoolbell are not maintained anymore | 11:25 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i am new one for this tool, so u and like u friend should cooperate for me , ya | 11:26 |
ignas | sorry, but all of the people working on schooltool are very very busy | 11:27 |
ignas | and we can only help you by answering specific questions | 11:27 |
ignas | telling you where to find the information | 11:27 |
ignas | not teaching you everything there is to k now about programming, python, zope3, translation, schooltool ... | 11:27 |
Bhaskar | ignas:ok | 11:28 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i think so | 11:28 |
ignas | and asking everyone by mail, or on IRC will not help you with it ... | 11:28 |
ignas | all the information is already there | 11:28 |
ignas | you just have to read it all | 11:28 |
Bhaskar | ignas: ok | 11:29 |
Bhaskar | coz we are in same area, so we can share problem regarding schooltool, be very specific , ok | 11:31 |
ignas | same area? | 11:32 |
Bhaskar | ignas: i mean similar kind of work, eg schooltool | 11:33 |
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ignas | jfroche: hi | 11:59 |
jfroche | hello ignas | 12:00 |
jfroche | everything fine there ? | 12:00 |
ignas | yep | 12:00 |
ignas | now | 12:01 |
ignas | should i commit the timetable changes to trunk | 12:01 |
ignas | or to lyceum branch ? | 12:01 |
ignas | problem is - they are not 100% stable, because section resource booking is no well defined yet | 12:02 |
ignas | but still | 12:02 |
ignas | if you need them | 12:02 |
ignas | it would make more sense to have them on trunk | 12:02 |
jfroche | better put them on trunk so that i can report you some bug that i have in here | 12:13 |
ignas | ok | 12:17 |
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ignas | xmas announcment: svn+ssh://source.schooltool.org/svn/schooltool/branches/schoolbell2006 | 13:21 |
ignas | hacky unstable, but kind of working repository that has all the school stuff disabled | 13:22 |
jinty | cool! | 13:22 |
ignas | no backwards compatibility, no polish | 13:22 |
ignas | and no passing tests :) | 13:22 |
ignas | ~1 hour of work | 13:22 |
jinty | throw it to the lists;) | 13:22 |
jinty | or was that lions | 13:23 |
ignas | would have been less, but demographics stuff is eeky poo ;) | 13:23 |
* ignas wrote an email to the list, so it's unofficial now ;) | 13:32 | |
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ignas | jfroche: i have commited the refactoring | 14:27 |
ignas | so you can try it out | 14:27 |
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ignas | any of the cando people ? | 19:51 |
ignas | jinty: ayt? | 20:11 |
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