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| ashik | hi | 07:59 |
| ashik | I have completed translation. How can I check if it translated correctly? | 08:01 |
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| ashik | toxygen: Hi | 09:59 |
| ashik | I did all the translation process | 10:00 |
| ashik | And I think its the time to work on configuration file | 10:00 |
| ashik | Will you please help me? | 10:00 |
| ashik | Thanks schooltool | 10:33 |
| ashik | I did it | 10:33 |
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| jfroche | ignas: hello | 12:20 |
| ignas | jfroche: hi | 12:21 |
| jfroche | same for my code for the export => on trunk svn ? | 12:21 |
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| jfroche | (not the z3 product, just the python) | 12:21 |
| ignas | jfroche: ok, will do probably | 12:21 |
| jfroche | you will do ? | 12:22 |
| jfroche | v nearly finished | 12:28 |
| jfroche | playing with the xml | 12:28 |
| ignas | vidas was working on roundup, but he won't be available for a day or two | 12:39 |
| ignas | :/ | 12:39 |
| jfroche | ll finish tonight i think | 12:40 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6429: | 14:08 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Create a branch for lyceum work. | 14:08 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6430: | 15:28 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Add translations for main navigation menu items. | 15:28 |
| ignas | jinty: ayt? | 15:37 |
| jinty | ignas: yeah | 15:38 |
| ignas | are there any legal kludges that would prevent me from commiting .po files extracted from rosetta tarballs into schooltool repository ? | 15:38 |
| ignas | lyceum branch to be exact | 15:38 |
| jinty | IANAL!!!! | 15:39 |
| ignas | :) | 15:39 |
| ignas | i know | 15:39 |
| jinty | I just know that for me it is not ok. | 15:39 |
| ignas | you mean - you don't want it done, or that you can't do it? | 15:40 |
| jinty | but I think you guys have a different contract that allows you to commit this stuff. | 15:40 |
| ignas | aah | 15:40 |
| ignas | i'll ask tom about this then | 15:40 |
| jinty | I mean I _really_ want it done, but I signed a piece of paper saying I would not do it. | 15:40 |
| jinty | commit to trunk please! | 15:41 |
| ignas | ok :) | 15:42 |
| ignas | jinty: any ideas of what should we do with predefined schooltool content (teache, admin groups/ manager user)? | 15:43 |
| ignas | when an instance is created - manager, teacher groups get their english names | 15:43 |
| ignas | we can either tell schooltool to use a different language when creating the database for the first time | 15:44 |
| ignas | or try to come up with a different translation scheme for "special" groups, users, resources | 15:44 |
| jinty | are these id's? | 15:44 |
| ignas | title, description of a group technically is user data not system data | 15:45 |
| ignas | so they are not Ids | 15:45 |
| jinty | hmm | 15:45 |
| ignas | i don't know what would happen if a group had it's title as a messageId | 15:45 |
| jinty | that's what I was thinking of suggesting | 15:45 |
| ignas | as one can edit titles, descriptions | 15:45 |
| ignas | i will try it out | 15:45 |
| jinty | better not do too much magic | 15:46 |
| ignas | maybe you just get a translated ID in the edit box and it stays translatable (depending on browser settings) until the first update | 15:46 |
| ignas | as there is no way, nor sense to have something user entered translatable | 15:46 |
| jinty | I agree | 15:47 |
| ignas | ok i'll try message Ids, if it won't work we'll have to think of some way to "define" the language for database initialization | 15:48 |
| jinty | waa, I don't want to think about that | 15:48 |
| jinty | message id's seem like too much magic for me, I'd go down the documentation route (FAQ, initial installation questions) | 15:49 |
| ignas | ok, i'll have to think of some way to set default group names to Lithuanian for Lyceum so i would not have to manually edit them every time i reset the database | 15:49 |
| ignas | does rosetta support translation for multiple versions of a product ? | 15:50 |
| jinty | yeah, I think so | 15:50 |
| ignas | as i would like to use rosetta for schooltool trunk but don't want to gobble old pot files with new message_ids | 15:51 |
| jinty | 'gobble old pot files' ??? | 15:53 |
| jinty | there's a verb i've never heard before | 15:53 |
| ignas | current schooltool.pot contains a lot more message_ids than those comming from release versions of schooltool | 15:53 |
| ignas | if i will (so it would be more convenient for me) migrate schoolbell domain to schooltool, i will have only 1 file for translations which will make it even more incompatible with schoolbell-ui, schooltool translations | 15:53 |
| ignas | let's call it schooltool-trunk.pot or something like that | 15:54 |
| ignas | but i'd still like to use rosetta to translate it | 15:54 |
| jinty | well, shouldn't schoolbell.pot only contain translations that come from the parts that are schoolbell specific? | 15:55 |
| jinty | I mean I see a clear schoolbell -> schooltool dependency here | 15:55 |
| ignas | well, as from i don't know when, both projects are too convoluted (a.k.a. schoolbell doesn't exist anymore) | 15:55 |
| ignas | at least not in trunk | 15:56 |
| jinty | ok, well, I would say that schoolbell.pot should only contain strings from inside schooltool.sbapp | 15:56 |
| ignas | sbapp is not used anywhere i think | 15:57 |
| jinty | except if you want to run schoolbell | 15:57 |
| ignas | you can't run schoolbell i think | 15:58 |
| ignas | we were planning to run schoolbell from trunk but the contract got scrapped | 15:58 |
| ignas | or can you? | 15:58 |
| jinty | Hmm, I was thinking of taking that job on, but paying work is getting in the way | 15:59 |
| ignas | same for me :/ | 15:59 |
| jinty | but I would leave the remains of schoolbell lying around for a release or so just in case someone takes that on | 15:59 |
| ignas | what i want to say is that schoolbell domain is used in a lot of places in schooltool | 16:00 |
| ignas | and if i will fix it - schoolbell.pot will be more or less empty | 16:00 |
| ignas | in the future - schoolbell and schooltool will both depend on the same schooltool core, not on each other | 16:00 |
| jinty | yes, only containing the contents of sbapp. | 16:00 |
| ignas | so if i would add a release to schooltool translations with some "date" as version, I could upload the new schooltool.pot file without stepping on anyones toes? | 16:01 |
| jinty | yeah, do it with 2006 | 16:02 |
| ignas | or is there a better way? | 16:02 |
| ignas | as current trunk is not a real release ... | 16:02 |
| jinty | I think if you upload the schooltool trunk pot as schooltool-2006 it will be fine | 16:03 |
| jinty | then when I get around to actually doing a release, we can use those translations. | 16:04 |
| ignas | ok, i'll do some domain shuffling first though | 16:04 |
| jinty | yep | 16:04 |
| ignas | to have everything important for lyceum in schooltool.pot | 16:04 |
| * ignas is becoming a bit selfish, sorry | 16:04 | |
| jinty | should imagine just using sed would work | 16:05 |
| ignas | GNU emacs :) | 16:06 |
| ignas | will I be able to update the pot file later? (in case it is missing some strings) | 16:18 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6431: | 16:25 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Switch everything in schooltool packages to schooltool as translation domain. | 16:25 |
| * th1a shuffles some papers around. | 16:30 | |
| ignas | hi | 16:33 |
| th1a | Hi ignas. | 16:33 |
| th1a | jfroche_: ayt? | 16:33 |
| jfroche_ | hello | 16:33 |
| jfroche_ | yes | 16:33 |
| th1a | Hi. | 16:33 |
| ignas | th1a: can i commit translations extracted from rosetta tarballs into the repository ? | 16:34 |
| th1a | OK, let's get back to our routine of starting the meetings with what you did last week, what you're planning for this week and any current blocks. | 16:34 |
| ignas | ok :) | 16:34 |
| th1a | ignas: It is my understanding that you can. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Although I guess we haven't so far? | 16:35 |
| ignas | th1a: maybe you have some access to Mark's lawyers for such questions? | 16:35 |
| th1a | So maybe I'm making that up... | 16:35 |
| th1a | # | 16:37 |
| th1a | * | 16:37 |
| th1a | By using Rosetta, you give permission to Canonical Ltd. to publish those translations under the same licence as the software they belong to. | 16:37 |
| th1a | # | 16:37 |
| ignas | ok | 16:37 |
| th1a | Well, that means we can use it under the GPL, but we don't have a share of the *copyright* | 16:38 |
| ignas | so can i commit them to trunk or I can only use translations with schooltool? | 16:39 |
| th1a | So I guess we *can* put it in the repository, but not under our self imposed terms of needing shared copyright for everything in the repos. | 16:39 |
| th1a | That is, we couldn't *relicense* the translations. | 16:39 |
| ignas | oh | 16:40 |
| th1a | And we don't want to mix those in the repository. | 16:40 |
| ignas | i see | 16:41 |
| th1a | So I guess the answer is no. How much of a practical advantage would it be? | 16:41 |
| ignas | well, i would not have to deploy translations and schooltool separately all the time | 16:42 |
| th1a | OTOH, if it makes things easier, and it is a clearly defined block of code that we could exclude from a commercial distro, there is no legal reason we couldn't do it. | 16:42 |
| th1a | It is all GPL, supposedly. | 16:43 |
| ignas | i guess rm -rf src/schooltool/locales for commercial distros would be enough | 16:43 |
| th1a | jinty: Would this make our lives easier? | 16:43 |
| jinty | committing the translations would save a lot of people a lot of time and frustration | 16:44 |
| ignas | and that's easier to special case rare usecase instead of special casing common usecases | 16:44 |
| th1a | OK... I'd vote that we should commit the translations to SVN until someone tells us not to. | 16:45 |
| th1a | But it isn't illegal, or at least Canonical thinks it isn't. | 16:45 |
| ignas | will we need a separate Licence.txt for locales directory ? | 16:46 |
| ignas | or any notes in README files ? | 16:46 |
| th1a | It would not be a bad idea. | 16:47 |
| th1a | "Included translations are under the GNU General Public License, copyright their original author via http://launchpad.net." | 16:47 |
| th1a | Something like that. | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK... let's try some updates from jfroche and ignas. | 16:49 |
| th1a | jfroche_: Would you like to go first? | 16:50 |
| jfroche_ | playing with xml | 16:50 |
| jfroche_ | creating the right info for the import | 16:50 |
| jfroche_ | i see Denis tomorrow at the school | 16:51 |
| jfroche_ | i will bring my serveur there | 16:51 |
| jfroche_ | and begin to see what does really the software they are using now | 16:51 |
| jfroche_ | will begin with denis to see what will be the plan for this year so | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. Are we focusing on Vauban first and La Futaie later? | 16:51 |
| jfroche_ | right | 16:52 |
| jfroche_ | Nicolas is quite diffucult to catch | 16:52 |
| jfroche_ | and for the moment i work more with Denis | 16:52 |
| th1a | That's fine. | 16:52 |
| jfroche_ | but i ask Nicolas to provide to his director the paper we wrote to get the authorisations to work with their own student data | 16:52 |
| jfroche_ | but i really would like to see at nicolas school cause i think they arent the same | 16:53 |
| th1a | Nicolas's school is a good one for us because their report cards are INSANE. | 16:53 |
| th1a | And they way they create them is also insane. | 16:53 |
| th1a | So we should be able to improve that process for them. | 16:54 |
| th1a | So Vidas came up with a view that generated a big XML dump from Roundup? | 16:55 |
| jfroche_ | right i will be able to tell you for Vauban in the next few days | 16:55 |
| th1a | I bet Vauban's grading system is more traditional. | 16:55 |
| ignas | th1a: no, Vidas got some very important university matters to attend to today | 16:56 |
| th1a | OK. He's still working on it? | 16:56 |
| jfroche_ | i got the xml doc from James Henstridge | 16:56 |
| jfroche_ | i think i will be to generate it tonight | 16:56 |
| ignas | th1a: it will be better if jfroche_ will do it himself as he's got a Zope3 free solution underway | 16:57 |
| th1a | Oh, OK. | 16:57 |
| * jfroche_ happy :) | 16:57 | |
| th1a | jfroche_: I'll have about an hour to discuss bugs today after the meeting. I have to go to school to meet with the guy who is working on digital portfolios with the school. | 16:58 |
| jfroche_ | ok as you want | 16:58 |
| th1a | jfroche_: What's the status with Vauban in terms of making this relationship formal? | 16:58 |
| jfroche_ | i spoke about this with Denis | 16:59 |
| jfroche_ | he told me that it should take a while ... | 16:59 |
| jfroche_ | so i don't want to wait for them and continue | 16:59 |
| th1a | Agreed. | 17:00 |
| jfroche_ | but i definitly need Nicolas to do the same soon cause i dont want to wait so long for his school | 17:00 |
| th1a | And how do you think we should proceed on the schooltool.org website? | 17:00 |
| th1a | I'm less worried about La Futaie, since we have an existing understanding with them. | 17:01 |
| th1a | That is, I'm not worried that they'd freak out if we used their name. | 17:01 |
| jfroche_ | for the schooltool.org | 17:03 |
| th1a | Do you need more specific instructions in the short term for the website, or do you know what the first steps are? | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | i v access to fs | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | now | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | i ll to create the dev instance | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | move thing to a product | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | commit it to svn | 17:03 |
| jfroche_ | and we will have to see together about the structure | 17:04 |
| jfroche_ | and maybe use back last version of PloneHelpCenter and PloneSoftwareCenter ? | 17:04 |
| th1a | Update them? | 17:04 |
| jfroche_ | right | 17:04 |
| th1a | That would be a good idea. | 17:04 |
| jfroche_ | but i ll work first on the dev instance | 17:05 |
| th1a | I think I had problems when I tried that, but I can't remember for sure. | 17:05 |
| jfroche_ | as soon as i have products ready on the dev i ll do the migrationS | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Anything else blocking you now jfroche_? | 17:05 |
| jfroche_ | no nothing for the moment | 17:06 |
| jfroche_ | Denis isn't ill anymore so i see him tomorrow morning | 17:06 |
| jfroche_ | will be able to tell you more there | 17:06 |
| th1a | I'm glad he's feeling better. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Ignas, you're up. | 17:06 |
| ignas | what i was doing: got an instance of trac running for lyceum, began working on a sane way to manage development+deployment cycele for schooltool, got some data import related issues resolved, got schooltool more or less lithuanian on lyceum snapshot, reviewed a small bit of jfroche's zope3 code | 17:06 |
| ignas | evaluated possible ways to improve schooltool to suite lyceum or just plainly work better | 17:07 |
| jfroche_ | yep ignas was a great help for me, i v sooo many things so learn on z3 | 17:07 |
| th1a | It is a bit of a climb, but it seems like you know the basics. | 17:08 |
| ignas | i am waiting for Aiste to translate the agreement | 17:08 |
| ignas | and i think about visiting Lyceum tomorow | 17:08 |
| ignas | to prioritize some stories | 17:08 |
| ignas | the nearest milestone being "allow teachers and maybe students to log into the system" | 17:09 |
| th1a | Visiting is good. You need to show your face or people will forget about you. | 17:09 |
| Aiste | ignas: : I'm almost done with the translation | 17:09 |
| ignas | Aiste: cool :) | 17:09 |
| th1a | Aiste: Thanks! | 17:09 |
| Aiste | but I will need you to look through it and provide corrections :) | 17:09 |
| Aiste | and will also add some legalese at the end | 17:09 |
| th1a | By the way, I appreciate any help you guys can give Ashik with his translation problems. He's working on SchoolTool for the Nepalese government, so there is potentially a whole country depending on us nursing him through the process :-0 | 17:10 |
| th1a | jfroche_: Have you taken a look at the UI changes that ignas and vidas have been working on in their branch? | 17:11 |
| th1a | Basically it is consolidating changes we made at a sprint this summer. | 17:12 |
| th1a | Moving to a fairly standard tabbed interface. | 17:12 |
| jfroche_ | not yet | 17:12 |
| th1a | It would be a good idea for us to port components to the new design as you present them to the schools. | 17:13 |
| th1a | That is, don't teach them the old UI. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Does that seem feasible, ignas? | 17:14 |
| ignas | th1a: no, not really | 17:14 |
| th1a | :-( | 17:14 |
| ignas | unless we assume they will not be lookin at sections, courses and other admininstration related views | 17:15 |
| th1a | Well, we'll have to convert them sooner or later. | 17:15 |
| ignas | indeed, but with only me working on it, i am afraid I will have to seriously prioritize to deliver the crucial functionality first | 17:15 |
| ignas | and I am planning to let Lyceum decide what is important and what is not | 17:16 |
| jfroche_ | which branch should i deploy first then at the schools ? | 17:16 |
| ignas | jfroche_: trunk is good enough i'd say | 17:16 |
| jfroche_ | ok | 17:16 |
| ignas | if Lyceum will want the new User interface sooner rather then later, i'll focus on the UI, but it depends on what they want | 17:17 |
| th1a | jfroche_: You should have a look at the UI branch though. | 17:18 |
| jfroche_ | ok | 17:18 |
| th1a | ignas: How much of your time do we have going forward? | 17:19 |
| ignas | i am not spending any time on other projects so more or less all my time belongs to schooltool (or Lyceum) at the moment | 17:20 |
| ignas | what bothers me is the not so finished UI contract | 17:20 |
| ignas | as i am only spending the time that I am not working on Lyceum stuff on UI at the moment | 17:21 |
| ignas | and i want to make them start using the system as soon as possible | 17:21 |
| th1a | Is there an end to the UI contract, or is it too vague? | 17:21 |
| ignas | we don't have temporary tabs, and attendance views are not commited yet, though with the amount of time i am spending on it, it is a bit vague | 17:22 |
| ignas | i will talk to Vidas about it tomorow | 17:22 |
| ignas | to see what he thinks about it | 17:23 |
| ignas | he can give me a hand on this I think | 17:23 |
| ignas | so i would not have to abandon lyceum too much | 17:23 |
| th1a | OK. Let me know if we need to more clearly define its limits. When there is no end in sight it can be hard to move forward. | 17:23 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6432: | 17:24 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Merge i18n changes to trunk. | 17:24 |
| ignas | jinty: can you add me to Schooltool team on launchpad, as apparently i can't upload translation templates | 17:24 |
| ignas | (i could add a release though which seems disturbing) | 17:25 |
| th1a | Well, I'm glad we've got things moving forward again. | 17:25 |
| th1a | This long pause was depressing. | 17:25 |
| th1a | Working with actual schools, I think we'll make some real progress. | 17:26 |
| th1a | jfroche_: So we're going to look at bugs in Roundup? | 17:27 |
| jfroche_ | could we do it later ? | 17:27 |
| th1a | Tomorrow? | 17:27 |
| jfroche_ | is it ok for you tomorrow same time ? | 17:27 |
| th1a | Same time as the meeting? | 17:28 |
| jfroche_ | right | 17:28 |
| th1a | That's good for me. | 17:28 |
| jfroche_ | perfect | 17:28 |
| th1a | OK. See you then. | 17:28 |
| * th1a bangs the virtual bag of gravel. | 17:28 | |
| jfroche_ | :) | 17:30 |
| th1a | (thus designating the official end of the meeting) | 17:31 |
| ignas | th1a: now can you dedicate some time to helping me fix the README.txt for locales stuff ? | 17:31 |
| th1a | So are we writing a separate README.txt for that directory? | 17:31 |
| ignas | we already have a clause stating: "All files in the src/schooltool directory (with some exceptions in src/schooltool/locales) are part of SchoolTool, and are (c) Shuttleworth Foundation." | 17:31 |
| th1a | That's in the main README.txt? | 17:32 |
| ignas | yes | 17:32 |
| jinty | ignas: th1a is the admin of that group, I think he's gotta do it | 17:32 |
| ignas | th1a: can you make me a member of schooltool group in launchpad | 17:33 |
| th1a | I guess you've earned that privilege, ignas. | 17:33 |
| ignas | thank you :) | 17:33 |
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| ignas | so what should I change that clause into ? | 17:34 |
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| th1a | Take out the parenthetical "(with some exceptions..." | 17:35 |
| ignas | remove the whole (expression)? | 17:36 |
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| th1a | and add at the end ", with the exception of translations in src/schooltool/locales, which are under the copyright of their original contributors via LaunchPad at http://launchpad.net." | 17:37 |
| th1a | Yes, remove the whole thing. | 17:37 |
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| ignas | oops | 17:37 |
| ignas | ctrl+alt+backpaced my X11 | 17:38 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6433: | 17:41 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Update licence statement in the readme. | 17:41 |
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| th1a | Oh! One thing I forgot to mention to jfroche_ and ignas... | 17:50 |
| th1a | The two of you should pick a date for one of you to visit the other. I have money to pay for that. | 17:50 |
| ignas | jfroche_: what do ya think about hawai ? | 17:51 |
| th1a | I don't have that much money ;-) | 17:51 |
| ignas | an international space station? | 17:52 |
| jfroche_ | lol | 17:52 |
| jfroche_ | ignas: is full welcome is Belgium | 17:53 |
| jfroche_ | ignas: is full welcome in Belgium | 17:53 |
| ignas | good enough, probably :) | 17:53 |
| jfroche_ | might be interested to see Lituania too one day (next europython for example ?) | 17:53 |
| th1a | Yes, I'll budget for that. | 17:54 |
| th1a | As well as bringing both of you to the US, probably for different sprints. | 17:54 |
| th1a | Who wants to come to PyCon? | 17:54 |
| jfroche_ | very happy :) | 17:54 |
| * jfroche_ is jumping up and down with his thumb up | 17:55 | |
| th1a | All the CanDo developers will be at PyCon, so we should bring one of you. | 17:55 |
| ignas | :D | 17:55 |
| mgedmin | jfroche_: use a smaller hammer | 17:55 |
| jfroche_ | no but frankly i don't think i v the knowledge to participate in z3 sprint | 17:56 |
| jfroche_ | i should learn first | 17:56 |
| th1a | Well, in the short term, if you and ignas want to work out a date to meet for a few days and get some Zope 3 lessons, let me know when. | 17:57 |
| ignas | hmm, ok | 17:57 |
| ignas | i'll think about it seriously | 17:58 |
| jfroche_ | same for me | 17:58 |
| ignas | i guess bootstraping project on all the schools is a priority at the moment though, but as soon as we'll be doing something, it should be pretty useful to meet and talk | 17:58 |
| jfroche_ | right now is a bit too early | 17:59 |
| th1a | Right now is a good time to pick a date though so we can make plans. | 17:59 |
| jfroche_ | november december ? | 18:07 |
| th1a | One or the other? | 18:15 |
| ignas | i'll think of a few possible dates tomorrow as I have to take my studies into account, end of November seems like something suitable though, as i might have some exams just before Christmas (which makes December not very convenient) | 18:17 |
| jfroche_ | ok tell me | 18:18 |
| ignas | th1a: will you add me to SchoolTool Owners, please? | 18:29 |
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| ignas | jinty: catch :) | 18:37 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6434: | 18:38 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Commit translations from rosetta to trunk. | 18:38 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 6435: | 18:42 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Merge translations from trunk into lyceum branch. | 18:42 |
| th1a_ | ignas: Sorry... spaced out on that. | 18:44 |
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| th1a | I knew there was some reason I was logged onto LaunchPad. | 18:44 |
| ignas | :) | 18:44 |
| th1a | ignas: OK. Done. | 18:47 |
| ignas | thank you | 18:47 |
| ignas | what's with the .pot files needing a review before getting added to the system ? | 18:57 |
| th1a | I don't know. | 19:05 |
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| Lumiere | jinty: you here? | 21:38 |
| jinty | Lumiere: yo | 21:38 |
| Lumiere | I'm sitting here about to update a server with cando-05 on it | 21:38 |
| Lumiere | which is using the old cando package on breezy | 21:39 |
| Lumiere | I was just going to dist-upgrade to dapper... but I have realized that we still have a cando-06 package with the cando name | 21:39 |
| Lumiere | sitting in the repository | 21:39 |
| Lumiere | so if I upgrade I'm gonna hose my 05 data | 21:39 |
| jinty | yes, you are right | 21:41 |
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| Lumiere | can we get that pulled out? | 21:42 |
| jinty | Lumiere: we should re-upload the old package with a new epoch | 21:42 |
| Lumiere | and making sure the package has dapper deps? | 21:42 |
| dwelsh | th1a: you around.. welsh here | 21:42 |
| th1a | hi dwelsh | 21:42 |
| dwelsh | hey | 21:42 |
| dwelsh | can I call you? | 21:42 |
| th1a | You can call me. | 21:43 |
| dwelsh | calling... | 21:43 |
| jinty | Lumiere: I'm not sure cando 05 is going to work on dapper | 21:43 |
| Lumiere | nor am I... | 21:44 |
| Lumiere | it isn't horrible if that fails | 21:44 |
| Lumiere | but we're hoping to keep both side by side | 21:44 |
| jinty | I'll see if I can build the lod package in a dapper chroot with a new epoch | 21:45 |
| Lumiere | thank you | 21:45 |
| jinty | (but be very careful about doing a dist-upgrade anyway. make backups!) | 21:45 |
| Lumiere | yes | 21:46 |
| Lumiere | our dist-upgrades have been going very well | 21:46 |
| Lumiere | but I've been doing clean servers | 21:46 |
| Lumiere | I'm a long time debian unstable user | 21:46 |
| Lumiere | so I know the pain of dist-upgrades | 21:46 |
| jinty | the last cando 05 package was version 2005.2.2-7??? | 21:47 |
| Lumiere | that's what shows here | 21:47 |
| jinty | good | 21:47 |
| Lumiere | Package: cando | 21:48 |
| Lumiere | Version: 2006.0.0~alpha1-2 | 21:48 |
| Lumiere | is the 06 version | 21:48 |
| jinty | Lumiere: ok, I gotta build a dapper chroot first, this is going to take time. | 21:52 |
| jinty | like tomorrow at the earliest | 21:52 |
| Lumiere | let me check with welsh and have him read this quickly | 21:52 |
| Lumiere | ok | 21:53 |
| dwelsh | jinty: how hard to pkg. cando05 for dapper? | 22:09 |
| dwelsh | jinty: how hard to | 22:10 |
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| dwelsh | jinty: how hard to pkg. cando05 for dapper? | 22:11 |
| dwelsh | sorry... connectivity little balky here | 22:11 |
| Lumiere | bbl | 22:38 |
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| jinty | Lumiere: I'm uploading a package now to the dapper part of the cando repository. | 23:41 |
| jinty | your milage may vary whether it works on dapper or not, but I think so. | 23:42 |
| jinty | if there is a problem, it'll probably be in the mismatch of zope versions, you might have to keep zope back. | 23:43 |
| jinty | dwelsh: dunno, I've tried quickly. If you want me to spend a few hours on it, let me know. | 23:43 |
| jinty | I think we're gonna need to port some schooltool patches from the schooltool repository, and I think I know which ones. | 23:46 |
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