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| Javier_Electrico | hello | 05:31 |
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| Javier_Electrico | is there anybody outhere? | 05:34 |
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| ashik | hi everybody | 08:25 |
| ashik | need some help | 08:25 |
| toxygen | yo? | 08:35 |
| ashik | how to get a checkout of the schooltool repository? | 08:40 |
| toxygen | svn up | 08:41 |
| toxygen | will update your current version to svn | 08:42 |
| ashik | thank you | 08:42 |
| ashik | well nothing happened there, | 08:45 |
| ashik | only "At revision 6427" message occurred | 08:45 |
| ashik | what next sir? | 08:47 |
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| toxygen | you have up to date version :) | 08:49 |
| ashik | i think that command is only for updating the svn | 08:51 |
| ashik | And I need to checkout the repository | 08:51 |
| ashik | so how to do this? | 08:51 |
| toxygen | mmnt | 08:53 |
| ashik | for check out we need a source target. what is the source location then | 08:55 |
| toxygen | svn checkout http://source.schooltool.org/svn/trunk/schooltool/ | 08:55 |
| ashik | this is the same location i checked out during installation | 08:56 |
| toxygen | then i can't help you sir | 08:56 |
| ashik | I mean to say that I have already installed schooltool. I did it by same command you mentioned above. But for that we do not need to check out at location ~/src/schooltool | 09:00 |
| ashik | now I am looking for translating schooltool | 09:02 |
| ashik | and i need your help | 09:02 |
| ashik | ok another question? | 09:02 |
| ashik | I need to translate schooltool in Nepali. | 09:03 |
| ashik | For that we use unicode value | 09:04 |
| ashik | Where do I need this unicode value? | 09:04 |
| ashik | msgmerge: internationalized messages should not contain the `\r' escape sequence | 09:34 |
| ashik | what this message mean? | 09:34 |
| toxygen | wish I could help you | 10:03 |
| toxygen | maybe you need to wait for some developers to wake up | 10:03 |
| toxygen | if you wait few hours... | 10:03 |
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| ashik | ok sir | 10:09 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 6428: | 13:47 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Security policy fix: instructors can see groups they teach to. | 13:47 |
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| ignas | th1a: ayt ? | 18:02 |
| ignas | jfroche: hi | 18:22 |
| jfroche | hello ignas | 18:23 |
| ignas | jfroche: do you have the xml format ? | 18:23 |
| th1a | ignas: Hi. | 18:23 |
| jfroche | just got it this afternoon | 18:23 |
| jfroche | will be able to work on this tomorrow | 18:23 |
| ignas | th1a: what about IRC meeting wasn't it transfered to mondays ? | 18:23 |
| ignas | jfroche: can you just send it to me ? | 18:23 |
| ignas | and find out the numbers of issues you need ? | 18:23 |
| th1a | I didn't think we'd actually agreed on that. | 18:24 |
| th1a | But I'd like to do it. | 18:24 |
| th1a | Does it work for you and jfroche? | 18:24 |
| jfroche | ignas: i can forward you the mail | 18:24 |
| jfroche | but i really would like to continue the job on it | 18:24 |
| jfroche | are you working on it ? | 18:24 |
| ignas | as vidas modified the index view of the roundup instance to do the job | 18:24 |
| ignas | well it is much faster to do it on roundup side | 18:24 |
| jfroche | monday are good for me as well | 18:25 |
| ignas | not with an indermediate Zope3 applicatrion | 18:25 |
| jfroche | right i dropped it | 18:25 |
| th1a | OK, so next week we switch to Monday 1330. | 18:25 |
| jfroche | i just fetch the info from python | 18:25 |
| th1a | jfroche is just itching for some Zope 3 hacking! | 18:25 |
| th1a | He can't stop himself! | 18:25 |
| th1a | Don't worry, we've got plenty more where that came from. | 18:26 |
| ignas | he should do more reading of schooltool code first ;) | 18:26 |
| ignas | btw, what are we going to do with all the user information | 18:28 |
| th1a | ignas: Where should jfroche park his coding on the schooltool.org Plone site? | 18:28 |
| ignas | he can just put it in schooltool repository | 18:29 |
| jinty | +1 | 18:29 |
| jfroche | mail about xml forwarded | 18:29 |
| ignas | apparently it won't make the migration to bzr any more difficult as one can just filter the svn dump file to skip all the irrelevant things | 18:29 |
| jfroche | th1a: what about tomorrow evening or wednesday evening to work on the issue to keep on roundup ? | 18:30 |
| th1a | Let's do tomorrow (evening your time). | 18:30 |
| jfroche | ok same time tomorrow | 18:31 |
| th1a | Well, after the meeting. | 18:31 |
| jfroche | perfect for me | 18:31 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:31 |
| jfroche | ignas: do you go want me to go on or stop with the xml ? | 18:31 |
| ignas | how much time will it take for you to finish the export ? | 18:31 |
| jfroche | just fetching the info in pure python | 18:32 |
| jfroche | really hacky | 18:32 |
| jfroche | but it's working | 18:32 |
| jfroche | just have to write it to xml | 18:32 |
| jfroche | but at the same time i v to work on the website | 18:32 |
| jfroche | so if you have time | 18:32 |
| ignas | any ideas of what to do with users then? | 18:33 |
| ignas | we can all go and create users in launchpad for ourselves | 18:33 |
| * jinty notes that a migration to bzr will break all build scripts as well as zpkg | 18:33 | |
| ignas | and map our roundup users with our launchpad users | 18:33 |
| jfroche | James spoke about it in the mail | 18:34 |
| th1a | jinty: There is no rush to bzr, if it is going to break many things. | 18:34 |
| jfroche | ignas: an email address for each user related to the imported bugs | 18:34 |
| jfroche | (reporter, assignee, comenter, subscriber). If the email address is | 18:34 |
| jfroche | already registered with Launchpad, then the bug will be associated | 18:34 |
| jfroche | with the existing person. If the email address isn't registered then | 18:34 |
| jfroche | a new person is created (they will receive no email from that account | 18:34 |
| jfroche | until they activate it though). Having a display name would be useful | 18:34 |
| jfroche | too. | 18:34 |
| jfroche | oops | 18:34 |
| jfroche | :) | 18:34 |
| ignas | just saw that | 18:35 |
| jinty | th1a: Just whover pushes the move should be prepared to fix those things as well | 18:35 |
| ignas | jinty: i see | 18:35 |
| th1a | jinty: It is really just something to do to potentially make Mark happy, so not worth breaking things. | 18:36 |
| jinty | because I don't have time right now, and in theory we would like to release in the near future. | 18:36 |
| ignas | svn is becomming a bit difficult for me to handle when i have an new-UI snapshot, lyceum-devel snapshot, lyceum-deployed snapshot, and schooltool-trunk | 18:36 |
| ignas | so it is not just for mark, i think bzr might help a bit for me myself | 18:37 |
| th1a | Or, perhaps to make ignas happier. | 18:37 |
| jinty | we should move the trunk to using eggs first | 18:37 |
| th1a | Anyway, I'm trying not to make these kind of decisions anymore, especially for vague political reasons. | 18:37 |
| * jinty adopts a new slogan "first eggs, then bzr" | 18:38 | |
| ignas | jinty: why so ? | 18:38 |
| jinty | because eggs replace zpkg and zpkg doesn't work with bzr | 18:38 |
| ignas | oh | 18:39 |
| jinty | it saves a whole lot of work | 18:39 |
| jinty | the release scripts can be adapted more easily I think | 18:39 |
| ignas | it will make me have egg_count*4 different branches/repositories not just 4 different branches/repositories, but i can wait for eggs | 18:40 |
| * ignas sincerely hates eggs though | 18:40 | |
| jinty | but the whole thing should just happen after the next release. | 18:40 |
| th1a | I hate being half-egged. | 18:40 |
| jinty | we've gotta wait for zope mainline on that one. | 18:40 |
| th1a | 100% eggs hopefully will be nice (yeah, waiting for Zope...). | 18:41 |
| jinty | (me should draw a dependency tree of things that need to happen) | 18:41 |
| ignas | jinty: what if i would switch to bzr after the release, but before eggs ? or do the egg/bzr thing at the same time (we will need a new layout for the repository if we will be using eggs won't we?) | 18:42 |
| jinty | er, I don't think we need a new repository layout unless we decide to do the schooltool as a namespace package thing. | 18:43 |
| ignas | oh | 18:43 |
| ignas | didn't think about schooltool as 1 egg way | 18:44 |
| jinty | we can do the eggs/bzr thing at the same time, not an issue. but it will break our ability to release until we can fix the release scripts. | 18:44 |
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| jinty | it's much simpler and easier to manage as one egg | 18:44 |
| Lumiere | morning all | 18:44 |
| jinty | Do we really need a schooltool namespace package? | 18:45 |
| ignas | jinty: you mean ? | 18:45 |
| th1a | It might be a long time before there is a SchoolTool release. | 18:45 |
| jinty | well, zope is doing it becasue it wants each package as a separate project so that they can be managed and released independently. | 18:46 |
| jinty | I don't think schooltool is big enough or has enough developers to need that kind of scalability yet. | 18:46 |
| th1a | yagni | 18:47 |
| ignas | jinty: when are we planing our next 2 releases ? | 18:47 |
| jinty | ignas: I can release at any time if the nightly tarballs are building, just waiting for the word from th1a | 18:48 |
| ignas | oh, i see | 18:48 |
| ignas | as we will probably have 3 different ways to "release" schooltool, on for you, one for lyceum, and whatever jfroche will be using | 18:49 |
| th1a | Well, I guess we do have to make some decision about edgy, which I've been avoiding thinking about. | 18:49 |
| th1a | Or, | 18:50 |
| th1a | not edgy. | 18:50 |
| jinty | ignas: you could use the build scripts and configure them for a different branch. | 18:50 |
| th1a | No, edgy. I'm getting nicknames mixed up. | 18:50 |
| jinty | s/build/release/ | 18:50 |
| jinty | th1a: yeah, it's almost now or never for edgy | 18:51 |
| ignas | jinty: is the release procedure described anywhere on the web? | 18:51 |
| th1a | I'm not sure a "new" release is desirable or necessary. | 18:51 |
| th1a | For edgy, that is. | 18:51 |
| jinty | yeah, there were some mails on schooltool-dev about it | 18:52 |
| jinty | th1a: It's just a pity that the old release is so out of date. | 18:52 |
| * jinty thinks that we should at least be producing something. | 18:53 | |
| Lumiere | we're finding the branch that cando's using pretty stable | 18:53 |
| Lumiere | for people who don't know me... I'm Jason Straw... doing infrastructure at the Arlington Career Center | 18:54 |
| Lumiere | testing the cando packages and maintaining all the cando-06 servers here | 18:54 |
| th1a | jinty: Yes, that's true. It is *really* old. | 18:55 |
| th1a | jinty: Would you be able to package a release? | 18:55 |
| th1a | It is pretty much your call. | 18:55 |
| jfroche | have to leave, cu tom * | 18:55 |
| th1a | Bye jfroche. | 18:55 |
| jinty | ignas: it goes kinda like this: run tagger.py to make a tag then run release-assistent.py to make a release. | 18:58 |
| jinty | all from here http://source.schooltool.org/svn/trunk/releases/ | 18:58 |
| jinty | th1a: yeah, I would be able to package a release | 18:58 |
| ignas | what will it generate a tarball, a tarball with zope3, a tarball with zope3 and zc eggs? | 18:59 |
| jinty | as far as I remember, all the preparatory work is done | 18:59 |
| th1a | OK, I guess we should do that then. | 18:59 |
| th1a | Exhibit some signs of life. | 18:59 |
| jinty | ignas: it will generate a full tarball+zope3 and a minimal tarball without zope3 | 19:00 |
| th1a | ignas: Did you get that Data.fs I sent out with a timezone/timetable bug last week? | 19:00 |
| ignas | th1a: no, not really | 19:00 |
| jinty | ignas: for eggs you are on your own, but you can use the python-zc.* packages I built (but only on edgy or unstable) | 19:00 |
| ignas | jinty: i see | 19:01 |
| th1a | ignas: That's blocking my work here... we're going to do some resource scheduling with SchoolTool and the timetable is shifted off by 5 hours. | 19:01 |
| th1a | Which is kind of a problem. | 19:01 |
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| jinty | th1a: So, I'll release a beta very soon, then we wait a week and release the trunk. | 19:01 |
| ignas | th1a: you sent it to issue tracker or my email? | 19:02 |
| jinty | (or maybe more than a week) | 19:02 |
| th1a | I think I sent it to the dev list? | 19:02 |
| ignas | th1a: what's the subject as i can't find the email | 19:03 |
| th1a | Ah, well, apparently I never sent it, which would explain your lack of a reply. | 19:03 |
| * th1a sighs. | 19:03 | |
| th1a | OK. Sent. | 19:04 |
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| ignas | th1a: the Data.fs is for schooltool trunk or some release ? | 19:09 |
| th1a | Trunk. | 19:09 |
| ignas | what is the default timezone for the schoolt ? | 19:09 |
| ignas | school | 19:09 |
| ignas | in school preferences | 19:09 |
| th1a | EDT. | 19:10 |
| ignas | and did you first create timetable schema or set the timezone ? | 19:10 |
| th1a | Ah, that might be the problem. | 19:10 |
| ignas | if you look at timetable schemas | 19:10 |
| ignas | if you can see a timezone displayed on the schema | 19:10 |
| ignas | then - you did it the wrong way and ttschemas have their timezones set to UTC | 19:10 |
| th1a | So you have to set the timezone first, right? Makes sense. | 19:11 |
| ignas | yep | 19:11 |
| ignas | we even had that in documentation i think | 19:12 |
| th1a | I think that's what happened. | 19:12 |
| th1a | Well, ultimately we still need to kick people into a setup routine when they login to SchoolTool for the first time. | 19:12 |
| Lumiere | jinty: in the latest install of the cando-06 package... the package didn't require the PIL module | 19:13 |
| Lumiere | and failed on install because of it | 19:14 |
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| jinty | Lumiere: right, i'll get that fixed. the right depends is python2.4-pil? | 19:14 |
| Lumiere | python2.4-imaging | 19:15 |
| Lumiere | also python2.4-reportlab is needed for PDF creation (but it isn't a crash if it isn't there) | 19:16 |
| jinty | ok, I'll depend on both of them. the post python transition packages also provide them, so we should hopefully be fine in future as well. | 19:18 |
| Lumiere | I'm so far behind on some of these transitions... | 19:19 |
| Lumiere | dwelsh wants to let you know that there is 1 new bugfix from pcardune in svn and 3 more coming from Eldar fairly shortly | 19:21 |
| jinty | if we were making a post python transition package we would need to depend just on python-imaging. but cando-06 is a hackish attempt at a transition spanning package. | 19:21 |
| Lumiere | hehe | 19:21 |
| jinty | thanks, then you mind if I hold on a new package till I get those bugfixes | 19:21 |
| Lumiere | not at all | 19:22 |
| jinty | ok, committed to svn, thanks | 19:23 |
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