IRC log of #schooltool for Sunday, 2006-01-22

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Travis_does schooltool support ldap?07:17
Travis_like does it create and ldap account?07:17
th1aNot yet.07:18
th1aWe'll have that sometime in the next six months or so.07:18
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Travis_oops07:19
Travis_sorry07:19
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Travis_bumped it07:19
Travis_ok07:19
Travis_I am gonna try out schooltool07:19
Travis_I love what your doing07:19
Travis_its a great idea07:19
th1aThanks.07:19
Travis_ldap would be great so when you add a student it creates a ldap account for the user to use to login to the computer system07:20
th1aCertainly.07:20
th1aWe just haven't gotten to it yet.07:20
Travis_awesome07:21
Travis_hopefully once this is complete someone creates a server distro that comes with schooltool and has ldap + smbdomain and mail etc. already setup07:22
th1aWell, there is Edubuntu, which is also funded by Mark Shuttleworth, so we work pretty closely with them.07:26
th1aI think there is a pretty good chance we'll have something like that.07:27
* th1a is getting back to watching Battlestar Galactica.07:28
th1aNice chatting with you Travis_07:28
Travis_yeah07:29
Travis_I was just chatting in the edubuntu channel07:29
Travis_where I found out about this07:29
th1aThey've been sending a few people over here lately.07:33
Travis_will schooltool be pluggable?07:42
Travis_for plugins07:42
th1aSchoolTool is mega-pluggable.08:28
th1aIn the source tree there is an example plug-in.08:28
th1aIt is a "commendation" plug-in, Travis_.08:29
Travis_sweet08:30
Travis_a food service plugin with a point of sale app would be awesome08:30
Travis_there is a similar app called Centre its free but the plugins cost thousands08:31
Travis_and it really sucks without the plugins08:31
Travis_and its ugly08:31
th1aThe main reason we're using Zope 3 is because it has a great component architecture.08:31
th1aYeah, Centre isn't any sort of community project.08:31
th1aIt is nice that they make the core code open, but they don't take it beyond that.08:32
Travis_I am install linux on my spare box right now and will try out schooltool soon08:32
th1aLet us know how it goes.08:33
th1aWe put a development snapshot up last week.  You should try that or a svn checkout if you're interested in the stuff beyond calendaring.08:33
Travis_thats this right?08:34
Travis_http://www.schooltool.org/products/schooltool-200608:34
th1aYeah.08:35
Travis_k08:35
Travis_so when this product matures it will be a full Student Information System08:39
Travis_able todo grading08:39
Travis_and generate report cards etc/08:39
th1aYes.08:39
th1aWe've got a simple gradebook running in the development trunk now.08:39
Travis_is that on the snapshot on that page?08:40
th1aNo.08:40
Travis_where could I get that?08:40
th1aThe gradebook stuff was mostly done last week.08:40
Travis_oh08:40
Travis_I will just try the core first then08:40
th1asvn checkout from http://source.schooltool.org08:40
th1aI'm going to bed now.08:41
th1aGood night.08:42
Travis_k08:42
Travis_later08:42
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 5673:17:54
povbot/svn/commits: Fixed a bug in sorting and added a no proxy security declaration for the UNSCORED score.17:54
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 5674:17:57
povbot/svn/commits: - Support sorting in the gradebook.17:57
povbot/svn/commits: - Fix bugs in statistics adapter.17:57
povbot/svn/commits: - Fix several UI bugs, including correct processing of input and error17:57
povbot/svn/commits: handling.17:57
povbot/svn/commits: Finished the functional tests for all new features.17:57
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srichterth1a: are you there?18:44
th1asrichter:  I'm here.19:05
srichterth1a: I just sent you an E-mail19:05
srichterI am done with the gradebook19:05
th1aI see.  Excellent.19:05
th1aI'll take a look at it later.19:05
srichterprobably the important part of this work was the refinement of the requirement package19:06
srichterI hope Paul is happ with those changes too19:06
th1aYeah, that's not surprising.19:06
srichterno, it was not19:06
th1aWe told you that was the hard part.19:06
th1aOnce you get those right, everything else is easy.19:06
srichterbut I put a lot of work into it; especially into the scoresystem and its widget19:07
th1aYes, scoresystems, too.19:07
srichterover time I think we will refine the gradebook API as well19:07
th1aThere'll be more to do on scoresystems, too.19:07
srichteryep19:08
th1aWell, I'm relieved that the gradebook stuff went quickly.19:09
th1aAmazing how fast things can go when they aren't tied into calendaring...19:09
srichteryep :-)19:10
th1aAlthough, we'll have to have activities show up in the appropriate calendars soon.19:11
th1aI cut you some slack on that one.19:12
srichterthanks :-)19:12
srichterdo we have the concept of all-day events?19:13
srichteralso, is the API for adding new events well-defined? Is it just some registration?19:13
th1aPresumably the API for adding new events is well-defined.19:13
th1aWe're both afraid of calendaring.19:14
srichterhe he19:14
srichterI certainly am19:14
th1aIt isn't that POV hasn't done a good job on calendaring.19:15
th1aIt is just scary.19:15
srichterno, of course not19:17
srichtercalendaring is just a complex topic19:17
srichterand it is hard to predict on how you want to use it19:17
srichtersince it is so multi-purpose19:18
th1aI hope we can use some of the calendaring machinery eventually to do things like repeating assignments (quiz every Friday, etc.).19:18
srichterok19:20
srichterthe gradebook implementation would have to change quiet a bit to accommedate that19:20
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