| jelkner | pcardune: when do you go back to school? | 00:00 |
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| pcardune | friday night | 00:00 |
| jelkner | ahh, soon | 00:00 |
| pcardune | or, i'll be back at school on sunday | 00:00 |
| jelkner | what is the time line for making the structural changes to cando to make it work with the current schooltool development branch? | 00:01 |
| jelkner | and have the functionality that last year's version did? | 00:01 |
| pcardune | that's been done for more than a month :) | 00:02 |
| jelkner | oh, then i should be trying it out, yes? | 00:02 |
| pcardune | if you do a checkout from cvs, you will have the same functionality as cando2005 | 00:02 |
| pcardune | i mean svn... not cvs | 00:02 |
| jelkner | ok, i need some installation instructions | 00:02 |
| jelkner | jinty: what's the packaging plan for cando? | 00:03 |
| jelkner | i mean dapper wise. | 00:03 |
| jelkner | i was asking paul if it was time for me to upgrade my test server to dapper | 00:03 |
| jelkner | but you are the one i should ask about that, yes? | 00:03 |
| jinty | I can start making experimental packages as soon as I have packages for Zope 3 | 00:03 |
| jinty | I am working on those now, but they may be delayed until 3.2.1 | 00:04 |
| jelkner | when is that? | 00:04 |
| jinty | Jim was saying in less than a month | 00:04 |
| pcardune | svn co http://svn.schooltool.org/cando/trunk cando | 00:04 |
| pcardune | cd cando | 00:04 |
| pcardune | make | 00:04 |
| pcardune | cd SchoolTool | 00:05 |
| pcardune | make | 00:05 |
| pcardune | and that's it | 00:05 |
| jelkner | cool | 00:05 |
| jelkner | ok | 00:05 |
| jinty | I am back-porting the patches I need to the zope 3.2 release branch now | 00:05 |
| pcardune | oh right, and then ./schooltool-server.py | 00:05 |
| jelkner | i'm going to upgrade the test server to dapper | 00:05 |
| pcardune | to run it | 00:05 |
| jelkner | and check out the svn version this week | 00:06 |
| jelkner | i'll report back at our next meeting | 00:06 |
| jelkner | should we wait two weeks for that? | 00:06 |
| pcardune | sure | 00:06 |
| pcardune | that's a good idea | 00:06 |
| jelkner | no sense meeting until we have something important to do | 00:06 |
| jinty | jelkner: you are going to have to remove the old cando packages before you upgrade | 00:06 |
| jelkner | yes | 00:07 |
| pcardune | tuesday's my first day of school next week, I will probably have many things to do, we might also have to change the day we meet (i have to check my schedule) | 00:07 |
| jelkner | i'm going to do that | 00:07 |
| jelkner | ok, please email us as soon as you know | 00:07 |
| jelkner | so we can work that out | 00:07 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:07 |
| jelkner | ok, then | 00:07 |
| jelkner | i'll keep up with progress through mitchell | 00:08 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:08 |
| jelkner | please keep helping him get further into all this | 00:08 |
| jelkner | i'll setup the new server and look over the functional test links you gave me | 00:08 |
| jelkner | and we can meet again in two weeks | 00:09 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:09 |
| pcardune | then I'll talk to you then | 00:09 |
| jelkner | that's it, then, meeting adjourned. | 00:09 |
| jelkner | jinty: i can run the svn version and the old package version side by side, yes? | 00:10 |
| jelkner | will the upgrade to dapper break the package? | 00:10 |
| jinty | no they will not break the package | 00:11 |
| jelkner | cool | 00:11 |
| jelkner | i don't have much data on the current version | 00:11 |
| jelkner | but it would be nice to figure a way to move it rather than reenter it in the new version | 00:12 |
| jinty | apt should prevent you from upgrading zope though | 00:12 |
| jelkner | well, i'll back everything up and give it a whirl | 00:12 |
| pcardune | jelkner: just copy the Data.fs... that wont change between ubuntu releases | 00:12 |
| jelkner | good point | 00:12 |
| jelkner | ok, i gotta get home | 00:13 |
| jinty | I reacall there was a schooltool generation that was not in schooltool for cando | 00:13 |
| jinty | that might break things | 00:13 |
| jinty | gottago | 00:13 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to you all later... | 00:13 |
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| th1a | pcardune: Sorry I missed the CanDo meeting. I'm about three hours out of phase with reality today. | 00:32 |
| pcardune | th1a: that's alright... i know exactly how you feel | 00:33 |
| th1a | Well, you've got more of an excuse since you've been switching timezones. | 00:34 |
| pcardune | If you look at the log, i'm thinking that cando will eventually just be a set of customized views on top of schooltool | 00:36 |
| th1a | That's what I'd like to see. | 00:36 |
| pcardune | are at least specifically the "competency tracking" part of it | 00:38 |
| pcardune | I'd like to talk to you about requirement browser views | 00:38 |
| th1a | OK. | 00:38 |
| pcardune | how are you going to want to use them for the gradebook? | 00:39 |
| pcardune | how will they be integrated | 00:39 |
| th1a | Well, I have to read srichter's gradebook proposal. | 00:41 |
| pcardune | do you know where I can get that? | 00:41 |
| pcardune | i would like to read that | 00:41 |
| th1a | I can mail it to you later. | 00:41 |
| th1a | Like I said, I'm running about three hours behind reality right now. | 00:42 |
| pcardune | ok, thanks | 00:42 |
| th1a | So the three of us will discuss it soon. | 00:42 |
| pcardune | ok great | 00:42 |
| th1a | What's your schedule like for Thursday afternoon, EST. | 00:42 |
| pcardune | I'm pretty much free all day | 00:44 |
| pcardune | just give me a time and i'll plan around that | 00:44 |
| th1a | Let's meet at 2:00 PM EST. I'll be up at Stephan's place. That'll give us some time to discuss things face to face and then bounce the ideas off you. | 00:45 |
| pcardune | ok | 00:45 |
| th1a | I'll send you the proposal sometime tonight. | 00:46 |
| th1a | What part of the world are you in right now? | 00:46 |
| pcardune | west africa | 00:46 |
| th1a | OK. Just checking. | 00:46 |
| pcardune | thats GMT | 00:46 |
| srichter | th1a: I am back; once you are done reading the document, we could talk about i, if necessary | 00:59 |
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| th1a | OK. | 00:59 |
| srichter | pcardune: th1a: ok, here are my comments to the meeting | 01:16 |
| pcardune | im here and glad to hear them | 01:17 |
| srichter | 1. Paul, keep doing what you are doing. I think a Virginia-specific competency package is the right way | 01:17 |
| th1a | I guess I should read over the notes. | 01:17 |
| th1a | Backlog. | 01:17 |
| srichter | (I agree with Jeff that we can refactor later) | 01:17 |
| srichter | 2. Gradebook integration; if this is not happening for ST 2006, I personally think it will be *OK* | 01:18 |
| srichter | there is a lot about the traditional gradebook implementation that we have to figure out first, before we can integrate the much more complex CanDo requirements | 01:19 |
| pcardune | that implies that CanDo won't coincide with ST 2006 | 01:19 |
| pcardune | or at least the competency tracking part | 01:20 |
| srichter | no, it just won't be as integrated | 01:20 |
| srichter | you have cando running right now on top of ST SVN | 01:20 |
| srichter | so it is coinciding already | 01:20 |
| srichter | eventually, we want to make competency grading part of the gradebook | 01:21 |
| srichter | unfortunately, I do not understand the gradebook use cases/implementation enough yet to envision the integration | 01:21 |
| srichter | and I will have only a limited time working on the grade book | 01:22 |
| pcardune | oh, ok | 01:22 |
| srichter | one thing we want to avoid is that you develop something in anticipation of a feature that is not well understood | 01:22 |
| pcardune | that makes good sense | 01:23 |
| srichter | the CanDo problem is much better understood and developed, so let's keep it that way :-) | 01:23 |
| srichter | 3. new name for CanDo: (S)choolTool (Co)mpetency (T)racking = SCoT | 01:24 |
| srichter | :-) | 01:24 |
| th1a | OK... caught up now. | 01:24 |
| pcardune | interesting | 01:24 |
| th1a | It isn't yet clear to me how far or quickly we'll be able to integrate grading and competency tracking. Or, for that matter, whether or not it would be a good idea from a UI perspective. | 01:26 |
| th1a | Or, to be more precise, I think we're well on our way to having underlying models that work well together and will facilitate cool integration at some point. | 01:27 |
| srichter | th1a: yep, I totally agree... as I said, we do not understand the problem well yet | 01:27 |
| srichter | th1a: I agree completely | 01:27 |
| th1a | In some ways it may be very simple. | 01:27 |
| th1a | Across the top of your spreadsheet you have assignments or competencies, you assessthem with grades or rubric scores. | 01:28 |
| th1a | srichter: My first reaction is that I want to make "batch 1" its own contract. | 01:29 |
| th1a | We've been making our contracts too long & multipart. | 01:29 |
| srichter | ok | 01:29 |
| srichter | I consider each batch as a separate contract :-) | 01:29 |
| srichter | because I want to be paid more regularly too | 01:30 |
| pcardune | well, one thing we are sure of, is the requirement namespace right? | 01:32 |
| srichter | yes | 01:33 |
| srichter | though the gradebook might not use that | 01:34 |
| pcardune | well, i put the namespace stuff into the requirement package (and out of virginia) | 01:35 |
| srichter | that was the right choice | 01:35 |
| pcardune | and i get ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list | 01:35 |
| pcardune | with an interesting traceback | 01:35 |
| th1a | I'm going to get some feedback from partners before we make a decision about doing the CSV. | 01:37 |
| srichter | ok | 01:37 |
| srichter | pcardune: do debug session at this point and look at the list | 01:37 |
| srichter | th1a: I'll note that noone at Tufts uses the Web UI; it's just too cumbersome | 01:38 |
| srichter | and much harder to keep your records in sync that way | 01:38 |
| srichter | but ok, let me know what parts you want implemented | 01:39 |
| th1a | Well, let's see what people say. | 01:39 |
| srichter | yep | 01:39 |
| th1a | Spreadsheets can be a pain with computer-illiterate teachers. | 01:40 |
| th1a | More opportunity for them to rearrange things and screw them up. | 01:40 |
| srichter | HS might be different; and Physics students/profs are much more tech savvy too | 01:40 |
| th1a | Also, High Tech High uses the PowerGrade client now, so perhaps we'd want to parse their files instead (although I suspect it would be a lot harder). | 01:41 |
| srichter | ok | 01:41 |
| th1a | Anyhow, I'm going to send an email to the list for feedback, but I don't see any reason for you not to get started ASAP. | 01:43 |
| srichter | ok, cool | 01:43 |
| th1a | You can go talk to your wife ;-) | 01:44 |
| srichter | LOL, ok, will do :-) | 01:49 |
| jinty | gottago | 02:05 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Build the translation templates and update the translations before packing them up in the tarball. | 03:44 |
| th1a | jinty: Should we do some kind of global find/replace on the copyright dates? | 03:46 |
| jinty | you can if you like;) | 03:46 |
| jinty | find -name *.py -exec sed -i 's/^# Copyright (c) 200? Shuttleworth Foundation$/# Copyright (c) 2006 Shuttleworth Foundation/' {} \; | 03:48 |
| jinty | might be a start | 03:49 |
| jinty | or rather '*.py' | 03:49 |
| th1a | Well, that didn't seem to do it. | 03:54 |
| th1a | Never mind, I guess. | 03:55 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Add dependencies for schooltool.help | 04:03 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5577: | 04:04 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Include the schooltool.commendation, schooltool.help and schooltool.requirement in the schooltool distro. | 04:04 |
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| th1a | jinty: Did the PIL requirement make it into the current README? | 04:07 |
| jinty | hmm, dunno, having a look | 04:08 |
| jinty | nope, doesn't appear to be there | 04:09 |
| th1a | Did you do the tarball yet? | 04:09 |
| jinty | no still doing dry runs. | 04:09 |
| jinty | making lots of nightly tarballs | 04:10 |
| th1a | OK. Let me add that. | 04:10 |
| jinty | sure | 04:10 |
| th1a | Does this readme follow some specific structure? Some Debian rules? | 04:11 |
| th1a | Actually, have you added PIL as a requirement to the Debian packaging? | 04:12 |
| th1a | It is required now. | 04:12 |
| jinty | by the way, is 2006.0-alpha1 a good version number? | 04:13 |
| jinty | if the tests fail without PIL, my debian packages should fail to build;) | 04:13 |
| th1a | That's as good as anything I've thought of. | 04:13 |
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| th1a | Does this release require Zope 3.2? | 04:16 |
| jinty | yes | 04:16 |
| jinty | well, it's included | 04:17 |
| jinty | so, I guess not | 04:17 |
| th1a | But it is 3.2. | 04:17 |
| jinty | but it is not included in the -minimal tarball | 04:17 |
| jinty | yes | 04:17 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Updating the main README. | 04:25 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Exclude the parts of zope that have lately snuck in through the back door. | 04:31 |
| jinty | th1a: the latest nightly tarball is what I will release, wanna do some paranoid checking? | 04:48 |
| th1a | OK. What shall I do? | 04:49 |
| th1a | Download it? | 04:49 |
| jinty | perhaps try to run it with an old Data.fs | 04:49 |
| jinty | something from schooltool 0.11 with as much data as possible in it | 04:50 |
| jinty | note that the README says nothing about how to actually build/install one of these tarballs. Maybe now is the right time. | 04:51 |
| th1a | Good point. | 04:52 |
| th1a | Wait, what do you mean? | 04:52 |
| jinty | about the readme? | 04:53 |
| th1a | What doesn't it tell you? | 04:53 |
| jinty | it says absolutely nothing zip nada | 04:54 |
| th1a | It tells you how to build and run SchoolTool. | 04:54 |
| th1a | What else do we need? | 04:54 |
| jinty | and the procedure is totally different in a tarball from a checkout thanks to zpkg | 04:54 |
| jinty | try it, you will see what I mean | 04:54 |
| th1a | I'm going to have to reboot in a minute. | 04:55 |
| jinty | ok, I'm busy updating the readme (removing the section on distutils and such) | 04:56 |
| th1a | OK. | 04:56 |
| th1a | So I'm downloading SchoolTool-SVN.tgz, right? | 04:57 |
| jinty | yes | 04:57 |
| jinty | we are also going to have to figure out a way people can compile the .mo files easily from the tarball. (next release I think) | 04:58 |
| th1a | Hey, this is different. | 04:59 |
| th1a | ;-) | 04:59 |
| jinty | the first question people normally ask is "hey where is the code?" ;) | 05:00 |
| th1a | make test doesn't seem to work. | 05:01 |
| jinty | haha | 05:01 |
| th1a | Clearly someone other than me has to write this README. | 05:01 |
| th1a | Rebooting this box... | 05:02 |
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| jinty | th1a: wanna try the one I just committed out? | 05:15 |
| jinty | README that is | 05:15 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Remove or modify sections that refer to the old tarball format, add a barebones explanation for the new one. | 05:15 |
| th1a | OK... | 05:16 |
| * jinty goes to make a tea | 05:20 | |
| th1a | ./bin/schooltooltest... | 05:24 |
| th1a | OK, tests pass. | 05:30 |
| jinty | the tarball build actually runs all those tests, the interesting part is starting up with an old DB. | 05:31 |
| th1a | Seems to work with an old db. But it was a mostly empty db, so that may not prove anything. | 05:33 |
| th1a | This'll have the right version in the footer? | 05:34 |
| jinty | yeah, that's a part of the build process | 05:34 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: remove the training wheels | 05:36 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Tagging 2006.0-alpha1 | 05:37 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Set version number as 2006.0-alpha1 | 05:47 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Squish some bugs | 05:48 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Correct url. | 05:50 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5586: | 05:56 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: and destination path | 05:56 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5587: | 06:02 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: better searching for versions. | 06:02 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5588: | 06:06 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: I just want it to work now!!!! | 06:06 |
| jinty | th1a: thare ya go ftp://ftp.schooltool.org/pub/schooltool/releases/2006.0-alpha1/ | 06:21 |
| th1a | Cool. Thanks jinty! | 06:21 |
| jinty | we definitely need a standard release text... | 06:22 |
| th1a | For an announcement? | 06:22 |
| jinty | yeah | 06:23 |
| th1a | I'll take care of it. | 06:23 |
| jinty | the announcement? great! | 06:23 |
| jinty | or the text? | 06:23 |
| th1a | Especially since we need to emphatically stress that this is a development snapshot and not a production release. | 06:24 |
| jinty | for sure, but we would very much welcome anyone testing it with a real life db | 06:24 |
| th1a | Yes. | 06:24 |
| * jinty goes back to drawing SQL database tables... | 06:26 | |
| th1a | Have fun. | 06:27 |
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| pcardune | srichter: I figured out the problem with the getting menus, but I don't know the solution | 16:47 |
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| pcardune | the traverser returns the Requirement inside a LocationProxy, the menu items are successfully found, but when zope tries to put them in order of relevance, it looks up interfaces that LocationProxy provides, and not what Requirement provides | 16:52 |
| erchache | hi | 16:53 |
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| srichter | pcardune: good work | 17:31 |
| srichter | pcardune: let's make sure requirements implement ILocation or even better IContained then ;-) | 17:31 |
| pcardune | then presumably we wont need a locationproxy | 17:32 |
| srichter | not presumably, but absolutely :-) | 17:32 |
| pcardune | well, i say presumably because i haven't tried it before :) | 17:33 |
| srichter | I see | 17:33 |
| pcardune | how come BTreeContainer doesn't already implement ILocation? | 17:34 |
| srichter | because not every container must be locatable | 17:36 |
| srichter | brb | 17:37 |
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| pcardune | srichter: ayt? | 19:13 |
| srichter | yep | 19:19 |
| srichter | what's up? :-) | 19:19 |
| pcardune | I can't figure out how to properly implement IContained | 19:19 |
| pcardune | what i've done is add IContained to the list of implement interfaces | 19:20 |
| srichter | just have Requirement inherit Contained | 19:20 |
| srichter | that | 19:20 |
| pcardune | I've done that as well | 19:20 |
| srichter | that's it | 19:20 |
| srichter | ok, then it should be ok | 19:20 |
| srichter | Requirements should never have a location proxy then | 19:20 |
| srichter | (note that you have to remove your ZODB to reset the data | 19:20 |
| pcardune | ooo | 19:21 |
| pcardune | thanks for that note | 19:21 |
| pcardune | that it probably my problem | 19:21 |
| srichter | :-) | 19:21 |
| pcardune | will it automatically set __parent__ and __name__? | 19:21 |
| pcardune | or do i have to specify that with the namespace adapter | 19:21 |
| srichter | mmh, you should set the parent when adding it to the annotation | 19:22 |
| srichter | let me check how we are doing this | 19:23 |
| srichter | ok, here is the drill | 19:24 |
| srichter | see getRequirement()? | 19:24 |
| pcardune | yeah, set __parent__ there | 19:25 |
| pcardune | equal to context | 19:25 |
| srichter | yep | 19:25 |
| srichter | and the name should be '++requirement++' | 19:25 |
| srichter | this way when you ask for an absolute URL you get the right one | 19:25 |
| pcardune | should i use the contained() method so that it sends out proper events? | 19:26 |
| pcardune | something that you guys should do is change the login redirect stuff to handle pluses and at symbols instead of changing them to %20 | 19:28 |
| pcardune | well... that works! | 19:28 |
| * mgedmin wishes your nicknames weren't of the same length and both green in xchat | 19:32 | |
| srichter | pcardune: cool | 19:34 |
| srichter | I think your browser is changing this automatically :-( | 19:34 |
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| erchache | definitively....issues.schooltool.org are a big shit! | 20:11 |
| erchache | alga....im trying to add my comments to my issues but i cant....i need to send it on plain text exclusively.....i need to reconfigure my thunderbird mail client | 20:12 |
| erchache | th1a | 20:16 |
| erchache | when trac are on production? | 20:16 |
| erchache | issues is a shit | 20:16 |
| erchache | is frustrating to use a platform on this conditions.... :-@ | 20:17 |
| th1a | We'll move to Malone before we move to Trac. | 20:17 |
| th1a | Can't you just enter a comment at http://issues.schooltool.org? | 20:18 |
| pcardune | can you enter comments without having a login? | 20:18 |
| erchache | im using a webmail client | 20:18 |
| erchache | a second | 20:18 |
| erchache | well i send with my webmail client...im going to see if tracker are get it ok | 20:20 |
| erchache | uhmm....late response....looks good :-P | 20:21 |
| erchache | th1a: im translating your little howtos into spanish....im on 50% of translation...when are finished i send to you | 20:21 |
| erchache | i want to make es.schooltool.org with a server. How i can do it officially? | 20:22 |
| erchache | hehehe from webmail client track runs....but from thunderbird need to be send on plain text mode | 20:25 |
| erchache | pcardune | 20:25 |
| erchache | th1a | 20:25 |
| th1a | What do you want to do? | 20:25 |
| erchache | add comments to my opened issues | 20:25 |
| erchache | if you send it on html mode...mail gateway of tracker fails | 20:25 |
| th1a | No, with es.schooltool.org? | 20:25 |
| erchache | you need to send on plain text only | 20:26 |
| erchache | ahhh | 20:26 |
| erchache | hehehe....excuse me | 20:26 |
| erchache | im very very very crazy now....a lot of work :-^P | 20:26 |
| erchache | th1a: translate web into spanish to get more users....because we have our own linux distro | 20:27 |
| erchache | and can use schooltool/schoolbell on my country | 20:27 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:27 |
| erchache | guadalinex linux distro | 20:27 |
| th1a | We should do that within Plone. | 20:28 |
| erchache | we have 50000 potential users only on high schools | 20:28 |
| erchache | well but on your server....on my server....how? | 20:28 |
| erchache | plone has a internationalization of contents plugin or similar? | 20:28 |
| th1a | That is a good question. | 20:28 |
| erchache | jejejejej | 20:29 |
| th1a | I guess I need to find out. | 20:29 |
| erchache | i can looking for it.... | 20:29 |
| erchache | in extreme....i can up a plone server and redirect to es.schooltool.org url no? | 20:29 |
| erchache | or looking for a plone plugin to use schooltool plone server | 20:30 |
| erchache | you know? | 20:30 |
| th1a | We get lots of hits from Madrid, Barcelona and Sevilla. | 20:30 |
| th1a | Hopefully we don't have to do that. | 20:30 |
| erchache | i speak about your software to my boss....and my boss to others ;-) | 20:30 |
| th1a | Beijing is our biggest source of hits. I guess it is also the biggest city in the world? | 20:33 |
| th1a | Then London, Paris, Cape Town. | 20:33 |
| erchache | jejejeje | 20:35 |
| erchache | baidu? | 20:35 |
| erchache | perhaps is a spam spider | 20:35 |
| th1a | This is from Google Analytics, which I imagine is pretty good at filtering out spam. I assume their using the same algorithms they use for filtering out false clicks on their ads. | 20:36 |
| erchache | ey....i have solution.... | 20:37 |
| erchache | linguaplone | 20:37 |
| erchache | http://plone.org/products/linguaplone/?searchterm=linguaplone | 20:37 |
| erchache | with this you can make different language pages of same content... :-D | 20:38 |
| erchache | th1a | 20:38 |
| erchache | install linguaplone on schooltool plone site | 20:38 |
| th1a | That looks like the right thing. | 20:39 |
| erchache | LinguaPlone was made by Plone Solutions AS with contributors. Development has been funded by | 20:40 |
| erchache | * Oxfam international | 20:41 |
| erchache | * Centre for New European Research, Hitotsubashi University, Tokyo | 20:41 |
| erchache | * Zope Japan Corporation | 20:41 |
| erchache | * Plone Solutions AS | 20:41 |
| erchache | if plone admin do that for oxfam.....must be a cool plugin :-D | 20:41 |
| th1a | I'll give it a shot. | 20:41 |
| erchache | th1a: other question....i generate a correct .ics with open with ical....but ical on my pb cant open it...why? | 20:41 |
| th1a | What happens? | 20:42 |
| erchache | i push open with ical.....i get a .ics file....i open with vi and looks "good" but when try to open with ical....doesnt show on calendar :-S | 20:44 |
| erchache | i make a issue...perhaps data format are wrong | 20:44 |
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| th1a | erchache: We just need more detail on precisely what happens. | 20:46 |
| erchache | uhmm....i make a calendar.ics with schooltool/schoolbell ok? | 20:47 |
| erchache | when try to open with ical...nothing appears on screen... | 20:47 |
| erchache | perhaps because only daily view runs? | 20:47 |
| erchache | or what? | 20:47 |
| th1a | When you click on "open in ical" nothing happens? | 20:48 |
| erchache | yepa | 20:48 |
| th1a | I have to go eat my lunch. It is beeping at me. | 20:49 |
| erchache | i asociate .ics to ical with firefox | 20:49 |
| erchache | and ical doesnt show nothing | 20:49 |
| erchache | but .ics has data | 20:49 |
| erchache | ok.... | 20:49 |
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| erchache | bye....tomorrow more! | 20:59 |
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| povbot` | /svn/commits: * pcardune committed revision 5591: | 21:10 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: Finally got the requirement namespace traverser to work. I also adjusted the view to allow for customized sub requirement tree node views, presumably for subclasses of Requirement | 21:10 |
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| srichter | pcardune: hey Paul | 23:44 |
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| pcardune | hey srichter | 23:46 |
| pcardune | i set up some views for managing bases | 23:47 |
| srichter | cool | 23:47 |
| pcardune | but things stop working correctly with the wrapped requirements | 23:47 |
| srichter | I am writing some sci-fi for the gradebook | 23:47 |
| srichter | and I noticed some hickups | 23:47 |
| pcardune | what did you encounter? | 23:48 |
| srichter | first of all, I think you were initially right to move the ++requirement++ namespace into CAnDo | 23:48 |
| srichter | I cannot reuse this for the gradebook | 23:48 |
| srichter | ideally we would want the CanDo requirements and gradebook requirements to be treated the same | 23:48 |
| srichter | but this is not practical | 23:48 |
| srichter | if I have a classical gradebook, I usually do not care about other requirements in this moment | 23:49 |
| pcardune | right | 23:49 |
| srichter | what we really want (at least optional and for now) is that the Cando Requirement structure and the gradebook are in parallel | 23:50 |
| srichter | not together | 23:50 |
| srichter | the other problem is with the score system (this might be a non-issue) | 23:51 |
| pcardune | so what we want are two different namespace names, ++competencies++ and ++assignments++ | 23:51 |
| srichter | I have noticed that I always want to associate a score system with my activity (dervide from requirement) | 23:51 |
| srichter | so why did we not associate scoresystems with requirements? :-) | 23:52 |
| srichter | yep | 23:52 |
| srichter | and I might decide to not even implement it as a namespace | 23:52 |
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| srichter | (you'll notice that the adapter we wrote is not sensible anymore either) | 23:52 |
| pcardune | which adapter? for IRequirement? | 23:53 |
| srichter | yeah, IHaveRequirement -> IRequirement | 23:53 |
| srichter | well, I guess it is okay, if a third party wants to use the package independently | 23:54 |
| srichter | but for our case we really want to subclass all this; you for compotencies and me for activities | 23:54 |
| srichter | avtity is the new term for assignment | 23:54 |
| pcardune | so then even the adapter will be seperate | 23:55 |
| pcardune | that is pretty obvious now | 23:55 |
| srichter | yep | 23:55 |
| srichter | well, we had to gain some experience first | 23:56 |
| srichter | so it is really not a big deal | 23:56 |
| srichter | pcardune: what are your comments to the score system thing? | 23:56 |
| pcardune | well of course not, it will be really easy to make it cando or schooltool specific | 23:56 |
| srichter | yep | 23:56 |
| pcardune | well, what happens when you want to use a two different score systems for the same requirement | 23:57 |
| pcardune | I admit that would be rare | 23:58 |
| srichter | ok, if you have that as a use case, I am fine | 23:58 |
| srichter | I'll just never have this case with activities | 23:58 |
| srichter | I guess it is more obvious why you need the flexibility with competencies | 23:59 |
| pcardune | well here is a possibility | 23:59 |
| srichter | states might agree on a seert of competencies, but want to score them differently | 23:59 |
| pcardune | what happens when you have a school mandated activity, but a particular teacher want's to use their own score system for it | 23:59 |
| srichter | that type of scenario will never occur for activities | 23:59 |
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