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| pcardune | well, i've already installed one zope server, and it seems like schoolbell is set up to install another zope server (unless it overwrites the first one?) | 00:01 |
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| jinty | if you already have a zope server set up I srtongly advise you to run schoolbell from the tarball | 00:03 |
| jinty | I mean from the directory the tarball is un-packed into. | 00:03 |
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| pcardune | that is what i thought i would do.... | 00:04 |
| jinty | In my opinion installing stuff without a package manager is a recipie for disaster | 00:04 |
| th1a | pcardune: Your time is probably more valuable than your disk space or memory at this point. | 00:05 |
| pcardune | th1a: i don't know about that, I tried installing java and it said i need to clear up some disk space... | 00:05 |
| th1a | jinty: That's why we love you. | 00:05 |
| pcardune | anyways, i've followed the directions... for once... from the readme file, and i am now up an running with schooltool... hurray! | 00:06 |
| th1a | OK. | 00:06 |
| th1a | Good news. | 00:06 |
| pcardune | neeto | 00:08 |
| jinty | th1a: I said package manager(dpkg, rpm), not package maintainer (pure BS);) | 00:38 |
| th1a | ;-) | 00:39 |
| jinty | pcardune: are you running as standalone or under the ZMI? | 00:42 |
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| jinty | th1a: how much is it worth to set up the tarball such that | 13:45 |
| jinty | a user can unpack, go cd Zope3; ./z3.py | 13:45 |
| jinty | and run zope+integrated schoolbell? | 13:45 |
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| SteveA | http://blogs.gnome.org/nb.cgi/category/jamesh/Bazaar | 16:53 |
| bskahan | SteveA: saw that | 16:57 |
| bskahan | and http://arch.ubuntu.com/ | 16:57 |
| bskahan | interesting | 16:57 |
| bskahan | I'm all for moving to bazaar in theory, but marius is right about the speed being to much of an issue on common operation (commit and status) | 16:58 |
| ignas | SteveA, after taking a glimpse at the article it occured to me that using something not 100% dependant on a central repo is a nice hing to have if you are using a laptop | 16:58 |
| ignas | two days ago i wanted to do a commit and keep on working though i had no connection so i had to do all kinds of pseudo revert hacks ... | 16:59 |
| bskahan | SteveA: did you here back about the server btw? | 17:01 |
| SteveA | has someone contacted marius or anyone else? | 17:01 |
| bskahan | no one has told me if they have | 17:02 |
| bskahan | its possible though | 17:02 |
| bskahan | http://arch.ubuntu.com/subversion@bazaar.ubuntu.com/ makes me chuckle | 17:02 |
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| bskahan | when an administrator installs a new schooltool server, what are the first 3 things they should do? | 17:21 |
| th1a | bskahan: Good question. | 17:21 |
| th1a | 1) Change their password. | 17:22 |
| bskahan | good call | 17:22 |
| bskahan | in that case, what are the first 4 things they should do ;) | 17:22 |
| th1a | Probably check the site preferences. | 17:22 |
| bskahan | are there any sitewide preferences in this release? | 17:23 |
| bskahan | I don't think so | 17:23 |
| bskahan | groups, then persons, then resources | 17:24 |
| bskahan | terms next | 17:25 |
| bskahan | timetables | 17:25 |
| bskahan | no | 17:25 |
| th1a | What about date format, start day of week, etc? | 17:26 |
| th1a | Or am I on crack? | 17:26 |
| th1a | Are those by user? | 17:26 |
| bskahan | by user | 17:26 |
| bskahan | the defaults are european | 17:27 |
| th1a | OK. I forgot. | 17:27 |
| bskahan | its something that should change but wasn't in this release | 17:27 |
| th1a | Yeah, should be in there eventually. | 17:28 |
| bskahan | http://localhost:7080/ttschemas/+ I'm wondering if there's a rendering glitch that makes Period 1, Day 1 and X not align on that page | 17:31 |
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| th1a | bskahan: Anyhow, your sequence seems correct. | 17:31 |
| bskahan | but that part is a little confusing | 17:31 |
| bskahan | do timetables come before sections? | 17:31 |
| th1a | I was thinking about doing a box with "Things you haven't done yet" a la Basecamp. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Timetable schemas would come before sections, right? | 17:32 |
| bskahan | that's what I'm thinking | 17:32 |
| th1a | You want to indicate what period the section takes place. | 17:33 |
| bskahan | I'm going through the process now to see what can be fixed UI wise before we branch | 17:33 |
| bskahan | that's actually what started this, I realized section labels don't include meeting time | 17:33 |
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| * bskahan is going to make some coffee, back in 5 minutes | 17:34 | |
| SteveA | http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2005/05/15/0 | 17:48 |
| th1a | Yes, I've been wondering about that. | 17:48 |
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| bskahan | >>> links = IRelationshipLinks(student3) | 18:57 |
| bskahan | >>> [link.role for link in links] | 18:57 |
| bskahan | [<URIObject Group>] | 18:57 |
| bskahan | nm | 18:59 |
| bskahan | link.role vs. link.my_role | 19:02 |
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| bskahan | in retrospect I don't think it was a good idea to use Membership for section learners | 19:46 |
| bskahan | makes it annoyingly complicated to seperate out what sections someone is a student of vs. what teams they are on in the UI | 19:47 |
| bskahan | there's no Interface.notProvidedBy equivalent is there? | 20:02 |
| th1a | Hm? | 20:02 |
| th1a | Well, there's an extra step, right? | 20:03 |
| th1a | You have to see if it is a group or section. | 20:03 |
| bskahan | yeah, there's no way to just get the sections in one step | 20:04 |
| bskahan | you have to get the groups and filter out the sections | 20:04 |
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| ignas | bskahan, i think one can get relationships of given type, not just relations with some roles and sections are connected by using a different relationship type | 20:25 |
| ignas | getRelatedObjects(frogger, URIGroup, URIMembership) | 20:26 |
| ignas | README.txt ofschoolbell.relationships | 20:26 |
| ignas | only 1 step ... | 20:26 |
| th1a | Ah. | 20:27 |
| ignas | the comment "In general, avoid reusing the same role for different relationship types." | 20:28 |
| ignas | is 2 lines below the example too | 20:29 |
| ignas | :) | 20:29 |
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| bskahan | heh, hadn't seen that comment | 20:44 |
| th1a | Seemed like a good idea two weeks ago. | 20:45 |
| bskahan | that doesn't solve the issue of using membership in a section to represent learning | 20:46 |
| bskahan | have to filter the results of getRelatedObjects(frogger, URIGroup, URIMembership), for just objects that implement ISection | 20:46 |
| bskahan | ;) | 20:46 |
| bskahan | in the end it didn't matter | 20:46 |
| bskahan | since I needed to use isTransitiveMember for other reasons | 20:46 |
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| bska|mobile | timetables aren't associated with sections at this point | 23:48 |
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