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| bskahan | ignas: thanks for catching those time/date test errors | 16:22 |
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| bskahan | does lithuania have daylight savings time? | 17:28 |
| th1a | Whoops. I just asked the same question on zope3-dev. I thought I was over here. | 17:29 |
| bskahan | heh | 17:29 |
| th1a | Sleepy. | 17:29 |
| tvon | heh | 17:29 |
| bskahan | takes me 3 months to adjust | 17:29 |
| th1a | I should have gone to be before 4 am. | 17:29 |
| bskahan | found out I was using pytz wrong because of it though | 17:29 |
| tvon | you can sleep another hour :) | 17:29 |
| th1a | Did you determine that LIthuania hasn't switched? | 17:30 |
| bskahan | I'm pretty sure they don't | 17:30 |
| bskahan | since the tests that used "Europe/Vilnius" didn't break yesterday | 17:31 |
| FarcePest | i think most of europe switches a week before the US, or perhaps just italy, it probably varies | 17:31 |
| FarcePest | http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dstevents.html | 17:32 |
| * bskahan is opposed to daylight savings time, time zones, and non-metric measurements | 17:32 | |
| FarcePest | lithuania switched last week | 17:32 |
| tvon | ah, thanks | 17:34 |
| tvon | of course evo didn't know the meeting event was based on UTC so now it's an hour off for the rest of eternity | 17:34 |
| FarcePest | i used to live in indiana, so I am somewhat sensitive to DST issues | 17:34 |
| bskahan | indiana doesn't do DST right? | 17:35 |
| FarcePest | most of it doesn't | 17:35 |
| FarcePest | the northwest corner is on CST with DST | 17:35 |
| FarcePest | most of the rest is on EST without DST | 17:35 |
| FarcePest | some of the rest is on EST with DST | 17:36 |
| FarcePest | for awhile I lived in South Bend, which was in the EST-no-DST region, and is just south of Niles, MI, which is EST-with-DST, television listings were interesting | 17:37 |
| FarcePest | mostly I lived around Gary, which was always on the same time as Chicago, IL, but only on the same time as Indianapolis half the year | 17:38 |
| bskahan | heh | 17:39 |
| * bskahan notes evo does handle the time correctly if you specify the event is UTC | 17:40 | |
| tvon | where can you specify utc? | 17:47 |
| bskahan | next to duration, there's a button | 17:48 |
| * FarcePest wishes he had some google gulp today | 17:48 | |
| tvon | ahh | 17:51 |
| bskahan | in general evo calendar > evo mail | 17:51 |
| bskahan | FarcePest: me too, but apparently I'm not cool | 17:52 |
| Aiste | we do have daylight savings | 17:52 |
| Aiste | and switch on the last weekend of March | 17:52 |
| * tvon takes back mocking of evo calendar | 17:52 | |
| bskahan | Aiste: thanks | 17:52 |
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| * th1a is looking a Etria's new proposal. | 18:03 | |
| th1a | Users who set their calendar to publicly viewable can subscribe to an atom.xml | 18:04 |
| th1a | calendar URL to get updates for the remaining events for the current week. | 18:04 |
| * bskahan nods | 18:04 | |
| th1a | Presumably you mean that other people can subscribe to a publicly viewable calendar as well. | 18:05 |
| bskahan | yes | 18:05 |
| th1a | OK. That looks fine. | 18:07 |
| bskahan | cool | 18:07 |
| th1a | I'd rather if you'd just merge the two "misc" days into the rest of the estimates. | 18:08 |
| bskahan | ok | 18:08 |
| tvon | ok | 18:08 |
| th1a | Aiste: Have you been able to look at the stories for SchoolBell 1.1 and SchoolTool Calendar I sent? | 18:10 |
| * tvon goes to walk a dog | 18:12 | |
| Aiste | Albert is responsible for this | 18:12 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:12 |
| th1a | I'll nag him. | 18:13 |
| Aiste | I know that marius and Albert have looked through the proposal last week | 18:13 |
| Aiste | if we are talking about the same thing | 18:13 |
| th1a | I imagine we are. | 18:13 |
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| th1a | bskahan: Perhaps we shouldn't finalize the contract until I hear from POV, in case we need to rebalance the workload. | 18:16 |
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| bskahan | th1a: makes sense | 18:35 |
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| tvon | ping | 19:03 |
| bskahan | pong | 19:03 |
| tvon | macro | 19:05 |
| tvon | marco | 19:05 |
| tvon | pfft | 19:05 |
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| bskahan | th1a: meeting today? | 19:20 |
| tvon | maybe its a Pope holiday | 19:22 |
| bskahan | 6 days a national mourning in Poland | 19:22 |
| tvon | I suppose that could be whats going on | 19:26 |
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| tvon | heh | 19:30 |
| * bskahan wishes the Schooltool server move coincided with plone 2.1 | 19:32 | |
| bskahan | should schooltool svn prop:external schoolbell into src/ | 19:34 |
| bskahan | th1a: ayt | 19:42 |
| th1a | I am now. | 19:43 |
| bskahan | can we agree on a few stories of the contract, that can be started now | 19:43 |
| bskahan | maybe just the schoolbell 1.1 | 19:44 |
| th1a | Oh, the meeting time is based on UTC, so even though we all changed time equally, the time shifts in relation to UTC. | 19:44 |
| th1a | Sorry. | 19:44 |
| bskahan | heh | 19:44 |
| bskahan | pov wasn't here either | 19:44 |
| th1a | We shouldn't need to change what you've got. We may only want to add something. | 19:45 |
| bskahan | ok | 19:45 |
| bskahan | cool | 19:45 |
| bskahan | thanks | 19:45 |
| th1a | Yeah, the weekly meeting doesn't really work when POV is doing other stuff. | 19:45 |
| bskahan | I don't mind rescheduling/canceling, I'd like a heads up though | 19:46 |
| tvon | th1a: add something? | 19:46 |
| th1a | If we want to shift one of POV's tasks over to you. | 19:47 |
| tvon | ah | 19:47 |
| FarcePest | so i finally got my room data (in CSV): 52025 rooms (includes bus shelters, parking decks and some off-campus sites) | 19:51 |
| FarcePest | that's a lot of resources... | 19:52 |
| th1a | Good lord. | 19:52 |
| bskahan | stress test data | 19:53 |
| FarcePest | kinda what I had in mind, eventually I'll do some filtering | 19:53 |
| tvon | th1a: we can take deleting.. which will give us all of SB1.1 so POV can focus on ST-z3 work | 20:02 |
| th1a | OK. | 20:03 |
| th1a | That makes sense. | 20:03 |
| bskahan | making a working schooltool tree worked as expected | 20:07 |
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| bskahan | th1a: does csv import for person/group/resource go in SB or ST | 20:43 |
| FarcePest | seems like a SB function to me | 20:46 |
| * bskahan agrees | 20:47 | |
| FarcePest | however, it also seems like there's some overlap, and ST would probably import more attributes than SB for person | 20:55 |
| * bskahan nods | 20:59 | |
| bskahan | mostly wondering if SB needed CSV import at all | 20:59 |
| bskahan | or if it would just go in ST | 20:59 |
| FarcePest | maybe it should be a seperate component or stand-alone? | 21:01 |
| * FarcePest never got any google gulp, so he doesn't know the right answer | 21:02 | |
| bskahan | heh | 21:12 |
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| bskahan | should CSV upload for groups/resources provide for Descriptions? | 22:11 |
| FarcePest | yes | 22:15 |
| * bskahan nods | 22:19 | |
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| FarcePest | yeah, doesn't really save any daylight if you need a mid-day nap | 22:43 |
| th1a | No shit. | 22:43 |
| th1a | The CSV import just needs to instantiate the objects. | 22:45 |
| th1a | And the object's built in attributes. | 22:45 |
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| th1a | In SchoolTool the additional info will need to be added separately. | 22:47 |
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| FarcePest | i take it back. life would suck without daylight savings time, unless you like sunrise at 6 a.m. or earlier | 22:54 |
| FarcePest | it's switching between the two that sucks | 22:54 |
| th1a | It is a pain if you're developing a timezone-aware application. | 22:55 |
| FarcePest | looks like in atlanta, longest day is about june 21, sunrise and sunset are 6:27 am and 8:51 pm with daylight savings time | 22:57 |
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| FarcePest | without DST, that would be 5:27 am and 7:51 pm | 22:57 |
| bskahan | it sucks | 22:58 |
| FarcePest | last thing I need at 5:30 am is bright light | 22:58 |
| FarcePest | let alone 6:30 a.m | 22:58 |
| bskahan | takes me 3 months to readjust | 22:58 |
| alga | th1a: sorry about the meeting today | 23:05 |
| alga | got out of my head completely | 23:05 |
| FarcePest | th1a, midday nap might be a good thing for you, metaphysically-speaking | 23:05 |
| FarcePest | http://www.answers.com/noon&r=67 <-- read about demons of noon | 23:06 |
| th1a | If I was going to start doing it regularly I'd need to get up earlier in the morning. | 23:06 |
| th1a | alga: I wasn't too worried about the meeting or I would have sent out a reminder. | 23:07 |
| th1a | I'd like some time estimates for starting and finishing the next contract, though. | 23:07 |
| alga | OK | 23:09 |
| alga | I'll try to provide you with them by the end of tomorrow | 23:10 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 23:10 |
| alga | Do, or do not. There is no 'try'. - Yoda | 23:10 |
| alga | :-) | 23:11 |
| th1a | Also a favorite of my wife. | 23:11 |
| alga | The next contract will be only SB 1.1? | 23:17 |
| alga | Err, Will there be only SB stories on the next contract? | 23:17 |
| th1a | alga: It looks like Etria is going to handle all the SB 1.1 stories and you guys will do the SchoolTool calendar stories, since you understand how all the timetable related stuff works. | 23:24 |
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| alga | ah, ok | 23:30 |
| th1a | bskahan suggested earlier that they take the delete objects story, which sounded like a good idea to me. | 23:31 |
| alga | yeah, fair enough | 23:31 |
| alga | do we have all-day events yet? | 23:32 |
| th1a | bskahan: do we have all-day events yet? | 23:32 |
| th1a | I think we do... | 23:32 |
| th1a | I haven't actually tried it yet. | 23:33 |
| alga | hm, maybe I just missed it, but where are the contracts of Etria announced? | 23:33 |
| alga | I barely know what they are doing | 23:33 |
| alga | mostly from checkins and IRC | 23:33 |
| th1a | Perhaps I haven't kept up with posting them on the website. | 23:35 |
| alga | Oh, the website has one more major omission: no screenshots of our new beautiful software | 23:36 |
| alga | none that I could find at least | 23:36 |
| bskahan | they're in | 23:40 |
| bskahan | I'm looking at "almost working" timezone rendering at the moment | 23:40 |
| bskahan | if events before 9am didn't appear somewhere north of the browser, they'd be better though | 23:41 |
| bskahan | um, "they're" referred to allday events | 23:41 |
| th1a | There are screenshots on the SchoolBell page: http://schooltool.org/schoolbell | 23:42 |
| bskahan | http://bskahan.etria.com/files/Schoolbell_Screenshots.tar.gz/view | 23:46 |
| bskahan | feature highlight screenshots and marketing language | 23:46 |
| bskahan | ping | 23:47 |
| bskahan | my connection is crappy | 23:47 |
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| bskahan | th1a: did that link with the image tarball come through before? | 23:51 |
| th1a | Oh, yeah. | 23:52 |
| th1a | Nice. | 23:53 |
| th1a | There are some all-day events. | 23:53 |
| alga | th1a: brilliant! | 23:54 |
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