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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 17:31 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 17:31 |
| th1a | How are we coming? | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | almost done | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | finished the sync all button | 17:32 |
| th1a | Great! | 17:32 |
| th1a | I guess I got the right level of simplification. | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | started the "sync from canvas" button | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | at this point i'll assume Canvas is authoritative | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | ok? | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | one thing i was thinking is about the password for new users | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | if you pull someone from canvas, who is not in ST yet | 17:33 |
| th1a | I was thinking about ignoring existing users in SchoolTool. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | we have to create a person in ST for them, right? | 17:34 |
| th1a | That's the main point. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | but they won't be able to log in | 17:34 |
| th1a | The main use case is pulling users that are already in SchoolTool. | 17:34 |
| th1a | The students won't be logging into SchoolTool for Proximity. | 17:35 |
| th1a | Oop. | 17:35 |
| th1a | The main use case is pulling users that are already in CANVAS. | 17:35 |
| th1a | Sorry. | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | yeah you got me confused there | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:35 |
| th1a | Yeah! | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | are we just picking students? | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | i mean, pulling | 17:35 |
| th1a | That's the priority, so we could just do that. | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | oh ok | 17:37 |
| th1a | Not overwrite data in existing users. | 17:37 |
| th1a | That's not the use case. | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:37 |
| th1a | I mean, it COULD BE one. | 17:37 |
| th1a | But we didn't discuss that one. | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | well, that's one of the questions you asked | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | which side should be authoritative | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | but ok | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | i'll ignore existing ST users for now | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | i have a question about showing the canvas state in the person page | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | i have no idea how to display it | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | the doc says the sidebar? | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | also, being a link | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | i think we discussed: | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | - Unsynced (link to sync) | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | - Sync (link to compare both sides) | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | correct? | 17:40 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | that's how i'm doing it :) | 17:41 |
| th1a | Cool. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | deployment of this | 17:41 |
| th1a | Maybe we should just put the links in parentheses, like: | 17:42 |
| th1a | - Unsynced (*sync*) | 17:42 |
| th1a | - Synced (*compare to Canvas*) | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | sure | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | what if there's a pending task? | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | - Pending (???) | 17:43 |
| th1a | Pending no link. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | about deployment: | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | www-NY server | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | new instance, right? | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | using their existing data? | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | or just dummy data? | 17:45 |
| th1a | Well, they can try to pull their data from Canvas. | 17:45 |
| th1a | So I'd say they don't need it. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | blank db? | 17:46 |
| th1a | Does Canvas have years? | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | terms | 17:46 |
| th1a | OK, so blank and they'll need to set up a year manually | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | now that i think about it | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | the package will mess with their production db... | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | if it's going to be blank | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | could we set a sandbox in the dev server instead? | 17:48 |
| th1a | Whatever, yeah. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | i guess that's it from me | 17:49 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 17:49 |
| th1a | Fran suggested a few things we could start before Wednesday but if we're going to estimate this app api integration, then it may take us two days to get all the estimates together. | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | does the api integration have a high priority? | 17:51 |
| th1a | Also, we're probably going to need to take some time to sort out our ARK packaging vs the individual projects. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | we don't know priority, right? | 17:51 |
| th1a | It is actually pretty high insofar as it would be very useful to getting Sierra Leone rolling. | 17:51 |
| th1a | It isn't just a handwavy nice to have. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:51 |
| th1a | They are actually using it now. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | there are already some peas branch that needs to be merged | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | based on the schooltool.ark packaged we did for isli | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | but yeah, we'll need time | 17:53 |
| th1a | Yeah, and with three projects sharing code, copy/paste just becomes unworkable. | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | indeed | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | also | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | the journal needs a way to override the scoresystem | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | instead of the hardcoded version we have | 17:54 |
| th1a | Part of the reason I fiddled around with getting all the school logos on Launchpad is just to make all that clearer -- the shared bits are going into the .ark project. | 17:54 |
| th1a | Fran understands in general that we have a little cleanup to do. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:55 |
| th1a | OK, thanks replaceafill. Great job getting this done on schedule. | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | once in a while... | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:56 |
| th1a | Shows what you can do when we plan well and nothing gets tossed in or interrupted. | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | don't get used to it ;) | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | ok, my goal ETA is 6:00 pm your time | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | 4:00 pm mine | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | i'll ping you the url | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | i guess we won't set up a domain name for this | 17:58 |
| th1a | Yeah, not necessary. | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:58 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | coffee time! | 17:59 |
| th1a | ayt replaceafill? | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 18:54 |
| th1a | Do you think I should just register all these items from fran as blueprints, even the very small features? | 18:54 |
| th1a | (rather than mixing some in as bugs?) | 18:55 |
| th1a | Probably it is easier to deal with if they're all blueprints. | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | tbh i haven't used blueprints in a long time | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | and even we used them | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | i didn't see the advantage at that time | 18:56 |
| th1a | We'll try all for simplicity. | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | i do think xls attachment tracking is not the answer | 18:56 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 18:56 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | so, with little knowledge of them, i'd say all blueprints | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | nothing as bug | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | s | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | unless, they're bugs ofc | 18:57 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | like the ones she reported already | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | with screenshots | 18:57 |
| th1a | You can mark things as started, finished, needs review, etc. | 18:58 |
| th1a | That is good. | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | in my head | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | as soon as something works, she marks it :) | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | i mean, after she test it | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | tests | 18:59 |
| th1a | Yeah. I think this is going to help. | 18:59 |
| th1a | Definitely past the point where you feel like it is just unnecessary extra overhead. | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | indeed | 19:01 |
| th1a | It is some overhead, to be sure. | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | i've been dealing with much more overhead these past months tracking stuff, to be sure | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | :P | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | if she's comitted | 19:03 |
| th1a | Indeed. | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | i'm on board | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | can you attach files to blueprints? | 19:04 |
| th1a | You can add a URL. | 19:05 |
| th1a | And there is a whiteboard. | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | and work items :O | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | todo, inprogress, done, postponed | 19:06 |
| th1a | Yeah, the work items should help. | 19:10 |
| th1a | I need to figure out how to define a "sprint." | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | https://launchpad.net/sprints/+new | 19:15 |
| th1a | That might be a bit much for just organizing our iterations. | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | i think so | 19:16 |
| th1a | kk | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | it'd be nice to know when i can have a break though ;) | 19:17 |
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| * replaceafill sees lots of future weeks busy | 19:17 | |
| th1a | Yes, although on my end it has gotten very quiet. | 19:17 |
| th1a | I don't anticipate much coming in the next few months. | 19:17 |
| th1a | We just need to give Fran a heads up if you want to take a break soon. | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | i'm running a little out of gas now, but the weekend should help | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | it's this damn cold i've been carrying | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | no running this week :( | 19:19 |
| th1a | Yeah. I think we should mainly plan Mon/Tues. | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | oh th1a | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | question | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | after hitting the sync-all button | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | i just redirect back to Server | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | any better idea? | 19:22 |
| th1a | Well... it would be nice to be able to monitor it if you want to. | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | it's possible through messages | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | not very nice | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | but possible | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | messages in your (manager) person view | 19:24 |
| th1a | Yeah... could you just do a regular page with progress bars? | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | :S | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | not for today | 19:25 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:25 |
| th1a | Then don't worry about it. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:25 |
| th1a | Can you send a message when it is done? | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | it does | 19:26 |
| th1a | OK, that's sufficient. | 19:29 |
| th1a | I can't get Fran to not write specs in question form. "Can you..." | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:35 |
| th1a | Are you going to have time to do a few of the "Nice to have"'s for Proximity we discussed? | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | today? | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | not sure | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | i just added the progress bars to it | 19:36 |
| th1a | OK. I have to go run a couple errands. | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i do want to switch to a catalog based approach | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | instead of annotations | 19:37 |
| th1a | Got the ISLI blueprints in. | 19:37 |
| th1a | Ah. | 19:37 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:37 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: We're going to have to start monday by defining a bunch of milestones. | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | milestones? | 22:19 |
| th1a | Releases. | 22:19 |
| th1a | Like ISLI-1, ISLI-2, Rising-1, Rising-2, etc. | 22:20 |
| th1a | I mean, named and numbered however works. | 22:20 |
| th1a | We're probably going to end up with like six 1 week iterations. | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | i thought we were going to use release date targets | 22:21 |
| th1a | You can't enter those directly into a blueprint. | 22:22 |
| th1a | Unless I'm missing something. | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | you can in milestones | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 22:23 |
| th1a | Right, that's the point. | 22:23 |
| th1a | You can connect to a date via connection to the milestone. | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | you're suggesting 1 week milestones, right? | 22:26 |
| th1a | That's just eyeballing it. | 22:27 |
| th1a | Roughly. | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:27 |
| th1a | Your blueprint view should be pretty full looking... | 22:46 |
| th1a | Having two days just to digest this is a very good thing, replaceafill. | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | :) | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | http://s30.postimg.org/650s4b835/Captura_de_pantalla_de_2015_08_28_13_46_23.png | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | almost done | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | not sure how to display the canvas status for persons | 22:48 |
| replaceafill | that's all i could come up with | 22:48 |
| th1a | Sure. | 22:49 |
| th1a | That'll do. | 22:49 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:50 |
| th1a | If I were them I'd just like to be able to check. | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | what should i call the button on this page? | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | Force Sync | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | or just Sync? | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | or something | 22:51 |
| th1a | What does it do? | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | eeh, force the sync between the two? | 22:52 |
| replaceafill | maybe we don't need it | 22:52 |
| replaceafill | i mean sync from ST to canvas | 22:53 |
| th1a | There could be buttons to sync in one direction or the other. | 22:53 |
| th1a | You could put a Sync to Canvas button in there if it is easy. | 22:53 |
| th1a | Denise has a couple little bugs -- maybe an IE javascript issue. I'm telling her we'll look at them Monday morning. | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | cool | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | maybe it's thunderbird, but her screenshots look tiny | 22:54 |
| th1a | No, it is her. | 22:55 |
| th1a | Bugs = "discoveries" Good attitude. ;-) | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | :)) | 22:55 |
| th1a | OK, I've got the blueprints in and Vivian is begging for a bike ride. | 22:57 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'm about to be done | 22:58 |
| replaceafill | 30 mins top | 22:58 |
| replaceafill | will mail you the instance url | 22:58 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, ok done | 23:40 |
| replaceafill | sent you the url | 23:40 |
| replaceafill | we should create some blueprints for proximity and niswonger | 23:42 |
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