IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2014-12-01

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th1ahi replaceafill.16:32
replaceafillhey th1a16:32
th1aOK, so we have some business business to discuss, which is good.16:34
th1aMaybe we should start with a school page update to get that out of the way.16:34
replaceafillcatalogs work16:36
replaceafilli added search to the containers views16:37
replaceafilli mean /persons, /courses, /sections16:37
replaceafilland cleaned the css a bit16:37
replaceafilli don't have any more notes on the school page16:38
replaceafillwhich means it's basically done16:38
replaceafilli do have one16:38
replaceafillthe title of the school year/terms reports16:38
replaceafillmove it out of the menu16:38
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replaceafillso i guess we need the 2.9 series now16:41
replaceafill(and branch)16:41
th1aAh, yes.16:41
replaceafilland put all of this there16:41
th1aI mean, keep it as lightweight as is reasonable.16:41
th1aWhat is a series in this context?16:41
replaceafillthere are a couple of fixes that can land in trunk16:42
th1aJust how launchpad looks at it?16:42
replaceafilli guess we don't even need a series16:42
replaceafilljust a 2.9 branch16:42
replaceafillwould do16:42
replaceafilli'll give it a try, if it's too complicated i'll use just a branch :)16:42
replaceafilli remember i created series before for quiz16:43
th1aYeah, I'm just saying don't get bogged down in administration.16:43
replaceafilli think that's it from me about the school page16:44
th1aOK.  So what's going on with Quiz?16:45
replaceafillso i set up the instance and loaded the skills for isaac16:45
replaceafillwe met last week so they set it up as we discussed16:45
replaceafillone big year16:45
replaceafilla course with all the skills16:45
replaceafilland a section with isaac as instructor16:46
replaceafillisaac seemed to love it16:46
replaceafillhe said that'd be enough for him to demo it16:46
replaceafillhe started to talk about adding additional content16:46
replaceafilllike lessons16:46
replaceafillto schooltool16:46
th1ai have welsh on the phone.16:47
replaceafillbut i don't see that flying16:47
replaceafillah ok16:47
th1aCatching up...17:27
replaceafilllike content, text with explanations, examples, etc17:27
replaceafilldid you get his email with a link to a site_17:28
replaceafillhold on17:28
th1aOh, yes.17:29
th1aWell, that could just be in a completely different system.17:29
th1aYeah, that's a different system, I'd say.17:31
replaceafilli agree17:31
replaceafilland then17:32
replaceafillthere's the automated quizzes part17:32
replaceafillthe system gives quizzes to users automatically17:32
replaceafillwithout the instructor having to do anything17:32
th1aI think I only have a fragment of the Moving Forward thread.17:32
replaceafillah hold on17:32
replaceafilljust sent the first one17:33
th1aWell, I could do some research on options later this week.17:35
th1aThere really would be no point in doing this from scratch.17:36
th1aExisting open source options.17:36
replaceafillyou mean, all of it?17:37
th1aThe lessons part.17:38
replaceafillah got it17:38
th1aOK, so I'll email Isaac.17:39
th1aLet me check on Julia...17:39
replaceafillah right17:43
th1aSo the question at this point is scanning in class attendance.17:43
replaceafillPOV did that, right?17:43
th1aWell, it was different.17:43
replaceafillah ok17:44
th1aI mean, PoV did what he really wants (check in/check out of the school).17:44
th1aBut that's a bit involved.17:44
th1aTracking the state of the student through the school day.17:45
th1aBut not by period.17:45
th1aOK, so I suspect an individual school doesn't want to pay for all that.17:45
replaceafilltracking the state of the student throught the school is similar to what we did for ark17:45
th1aYeah... do we track them leaving during the day though?17:46
replaceafillnot leaving, it's just a second period17:46
replaceafillentering in the afternoon17:46
replaceafillbut it's the same approach i guess17:46
replaceafilltwo period tracks17:46
replaceafillisn't this task just a matter of letting the student doing it?17:47
th1aso basically, I'm thinking we could have a link on the journal view,17:47
th1athat would pop up a dialog,17:47
th1awith a form to accept an ID number.17:47
th1aWhich is what the barcode will be giving.17:48
th1aAnd then the dialog updates the gradebook.17:48
replaceafillthat'd work17:48
replaceafilli was thinking more of a independent view, instead of a dialog17:50
th1aSorry got an actual business phone call there...17:51
th1aI think it might be nice as a dialog, as long as it was set up to do multiple things.17:52
th1aAlso, it could be not modal, perhaps.17:52
th1aWe're kind of locked in on modal dialogs for maybe no reason.17:52
replaceafillat first ,it seems like a simple task17:54
replaceafillit'd require some kind of configuration, right?17:54
replaceafillwhich present grade you'd want to assign17:55
th1aWhich field are you trying to match?17:55
replaceafillyou mean, for identifying the student17:55
th1aSo what do you think, 2 days?17:57
th1aThis could go in core.17:57
replaceafillyeah, 2 days seems right17:57
th1aHm... maybe we should look at this
th1a(moving onto the next item)17:59
th1aWe need a quote for Quickbooks importing (from fees).17:59
replaceafillah ok17:59
replaceafillfrom who?18:00
replaceafilli mean, i remember something about quickbooks being discussed18:00
replaceafillgot it18:00
replaceafilli thought he only wanted grades :)18:01
replaceafilloh, you can download quickbooks pro 2013?18:01
th1aI have it.18:02
th1aI think.18:02
th1aI can't download the import kid for some reason.18:02
th1aIs that page working for you?18:03
replaceafillno, their js has an error18:04
replaceafilli just used the source18:05
replaceafillscreenshots in bmp!18:05
th1aThis would be importing customers, invoices and payments, I guess, since that's all the data we have anyhow.18:06
replaceafillah ok18:07
replaceafillso we'd have to understand the format18:08
th1aEw, that's a bit ugly.18:08
th1aSo we'd have to be creating the customers for us to know their ID's.18:09
replaceafillyou mean their ID's in quickbooks?18:11
th1aOK, so this would actually be pretty complicated and annoying.18:12
th1aLike, a week?18:12
replaceafillthe report (export) should be simple to code18:12
replaceafillbut yes, a week sounds ok18:13
replaceafillit's just the uncertainty of the quickbooks part18:13
replaceafilloh my18:13
replaceafilla lot of things you can import into quickbooks :D18:14
th1aOK.  We'd better check this export spreadsheet he sent to make sure it is the same one we looked at before.18:17
th1aOh... maybe not at all...18:18
replaceafilli'd like to understand dutch ;)18:19
replaceafillif that's dutch ofc18:19
replaceafilli don't remember seeing this one before18:19
th1aOK, I think I totally missed a step here.18:19
th1aNawien wanted an importer.18:20
th1aOh, I said initially $250 - $500 for this export, which is maybe low.18:20
th1aConsidering there are six sheets.18:21
th1aI'd better ask for an explanation before we give a real quote.18:21
replaceafillthe other format seemed easier to understand18:21
th1aWell, this seems pretty tabular, so there just can't be that much to it.18:22
replaceafilloh, it was because last time they sent a xls with schooltool's importer format18:22
th1aOK, so the second one is like a report on the number of students dropping out or returning.18:24
th1aLots of stuff like "Percentage obtained certificates for the overall phase"18:26
th1aSo, hm.18:26
th1aOK, I'll ask.18:27
th1aIf they want to import a bunch of old data and generate these reports, that'll be a problem.18:27
th1aOK, I'll follow up.18:28
th1aThat should do it.18:28
th1aDid you get your wire transfer?18:28
replaceafillyes, thanks!18:29
replaceafilli got like $45 less18:29
replaceafillbecause of bank fees i guess18:29
th1aAh, probably. ?18:29
th1aI'll ask next time.18:29
replaceafillok, i need to go get Camila18:31
th1aThanks replaceafill.18:31
replaceafillthanks th1a18:31
replaceafillbb in ~4018:31
th1areplaceafill: ayt?19:54
replaceafillth1a, yes19:55
th1aDo you think we could reasonably save each barcode scan as entered?19:55
th1aI just have a feeling people might forget if they have to explicitly save all of them after closing the dialog.19:55
th1aOr I guess closing the dialog could save them.19:55
th1aThat would probably be ok.19:55
replaceafilli thought we were going to modify the gradebook on each scan19:56
th1aWell, just checking.19:57
replaceafillthat's your question, right?19:57
th1aThe answer can be "yes."19:58
th1aThis seems like a nice feature for Quickbooks 2014...
replaceafillthat's a separate product, right?20:00
th1aI believe you have to pay for it.20:00
replaceafilli guess we should ask the customer which version of quickbooks he has20:02
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replaceafillth1a, zyt?22:43
th1ahi replaceafill.22:45
replaceafilldo you mind if i fix this one now:22:45
replaceafilland release it tomorrow22:45
replaceafilli just had a question in spanish asking about it22:45
replaceafillit should be quick22:45
th1aUh, sure?22:46
replaceafillkk, thanks22:46
replaceafillwhat's next after the school page?22:46
th1aLets get the importer to use the headers and not be dependent on order.22:47
replaceafilloh ok22:47
replaceafilli think i have a question about that...22:48
replaceafilli'll check my notes and ask in the meeting tomorrow if i find it22:48
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