IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2014-10-09

replaceafillth1a, you around?00:11
th1ahi replaceafill.00:11
replaceafillgradebook question00:11
replaceafillwhat should be the "correct" behavior for invalid grades00:12
replaceafilllike entering 'XXX' for an integer field00:12
replaceafillthe grade seems like it's been saved, no error00:12
replaceafillbut when you refresh the gradebook, the grade is gone00:12
th1aWhat do you mean by refresh?00:13
th1aSeems like its been saved?00:13
replaceafilli mean, you get the table cell with00:13
replaceafillthen you go to some other view00:14
replaceafilland when you get back, the grade is not there00:14
replaceafillit was never saved00:14
replaceafilljust rendered back00:14
th1aWell, that's certainly not right.00:14
replaceafilli remember we even have a bug somewhere00:14
replaceafillbut what's the right way to handle00:14
replaceafilldisable the Save button00:15
th1aFor a while it seemed ok to save invalid entries, because why not.00:15
th1aWell, that is probably what we should do, actually.00:15
replaceafilljquery ui dialog00:15
th1aYeah, we have a little more to work with now, UI-wise.00:15
th1aI'd say disable the save until they're valid.00:17
th1aBut do we have a way to indicate that clearly?00:17
th1aSo you know why the button is inactive?00:17
replaceafillwell, you actually see the red cell00:17
replaceafillbut you can ignore that i guess00:17
replaceafillchange the label of the Save button maybe?00:18
th1aThat's probably too much...00:18
th1aPop something up when you mouse over it?00:18
th1aMaybe a bit more than that.00:19
th1aOr at least make it instant?00:19
replaceafilla jquery ui dialog00:20
th1aNot modal definitely.00:20
th1aAh, well jquery tooltip.00:21
th1aThat's what I'm thinking of.00:21
th1aMOre than html tooltip.00:21
replaceafillmore noticeable00:21
th1aYes, that.00:21
replaceafillkk, i'll think how to do that00:22
replaceafilli think we should fix it soon :)00:22
replaceafillit's annoying :P00:23
th1aOK, off to make dinner.00:23
th1aThanks replaceafill.00:23
replaceafillkk thanks th1a00:23
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th1ahi replaceafill.17:30
replaceafillhey th1a17:30
th1aDid you see the recent thread with Anthony Nelson (from this morning)?17:30
replaceafillif i understand it correctly he wants something like the school export for journal data?17:32
th1aSo maybe we could toss that in.17:32
replaceafilli fixed the gradebook future bug btw17:33
th1aI just sent Glenda an email that might be helpful.  It seems like she was thinking that somehow we'd be around to help with bugs, etc. indefinitely...17:33
th1aI sent her the "No, we might have to get other jobs..." email.17:33
replaceafillso, now we'll basically release core, gradebook and journal17:35
th1aDo you want to see if Anthony follows up this morning?17:36
replaceafillfeedback is always welcome17:36
th1aOh, I guess you said so above.17:36
replaceafilland i have other things to do in the meantime17:36
th1aYeah, those things are kind of tricky because if you don't give them their hundreds of sections in a useful form, you're just wasting your time.17:37
replaceafilli just wonder if we'd need different views for attendance/grades/homeroom17:38
th1aWell, yes, it is not as simple as it might seem to decide how to output it.17:39
replaceafillinstead of just trying to put everything under a single export17:39
th1aWell, we'll see if Tony has any bright ideas.  ;-)17:39
replaceafilli'll finish my new test for the gradebook17:40
replaceafilland start packaging17:40
replaceafilli'll include the decimal bug17:40
replaceafillthe rounding error17:40
replaceafillthat was reported last month17:40
* replaceafill done17:41
th1aYes, ok.  Thanks replaceafill.  Point me to the release notes.  I guess we should push this the beginning of next week anyhow.17:41
th1aNo Friday releases!17:41
replaceafillah ok17:42
replaceafillquiet weekends ;)17:42
replaceafillwill do17:42
th1aIt is a three day weekend as well, and my sister-in-law is going to be in town.17:42
replaceafillthree day fri-sun?17:43
replaceafillor three day sat-mon?17:43
replaceafillwith our congress i never understad three day weekend anymore :D17:44
replaceafillsometimes they make people skip fridays17:44
replaceafilland sometimes mondays17:44
replaceafillah ok17:44
th1aColumbus Day.  You know, he was the first person to find America.17:45
replaceafillso we're meeting until Tuesday, right?17:45
replaceafillah yeah, i've heard a little about him... ;)17:45
th1aUh, let's assume a meeting unless I tell you otherwise.17:45
replaceafillah ok17:45
th1aThanks replaceafill.17:46
replaceafillthanks th1a17:46
* replaceafill goes to get breakfast, bb in ~3017:46
nedosa@replaceafill @th1a could you guys shed a bit more light for ?17:54
th1aI just forwarded your email to replaceafill, who is at breakfast.17:55
th1a(the details are beyond me)17:55
th1aI don't want to mess with the calendar side because I can't even imagine how many weird edge cases would come up.17:56
th1aIf you have an exception day in the timetable for example, and re-order the sections.17:56
th1are-order the periods, that is.17:56
th1aHopefully making the journal group more than two periods is not too hairy.17:57
th1aWhy do you need that, btw?  Just a few sections that meet for three periods, or is a basic feature of your schedule?17:57
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nedosayeah, i think grouping the journal periods should not be too awkward18:02
th1areplaceafill should be able to point you in the right direction.18:02
nedosait's a specific use case for someone where they want a very fine grained schedule18:03
nedosabut maybe I should think about modelling it differently18:03
nedosathanks @th1a18:03
replaceafill hi nedosa18:30
replaceafillyou're correct18:30
replaceafillthe bug is in iterMeetings18:30
replaceafilli haven't checked much though :)18:30
nedosanice, thanks replaceafill :)18:35
replaceafillabout the calendar18:35
nedosaany pointers to fixing it would be most welcomed :)18:35
replaceafillas far as i understand,, the calendar has never done that18:35
replaceafilli'd start looking at the calendar base class18:36
replaceafillhold on18:36
nedosathanks a mil18:36
th1anedosa:  Yes, you can create multiple timetables, which might actually be easier.18:37
replaceafillah, good point18:38
nedosathanks, that's a good point indeed, we started to examine using multiple timetables but wanted your opinion on this also18:42
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th1areplaceafill: ayt?19:57
replaceafillth1a, yes19:59
th1aDo you want to try just dumping a giant attendance workbook, with three sheets per section, labeled by section?19:59
replaceafillper term?20:01
replaceafilli mean20:01
replaceafillall the sections in a term?20:01
replaceafillor a year?20:01
replaceafillor the whole school?20:01
replaceafillby giant i assume you mean the whole school20:02
th1aLet's say by term.20:04
th1aAll the sections in a term.20:05
replaceafillso something like "SectionA-homeroom", "SectionA-attendance", "SectionA-grades"?20:05
replaceafilland so on20:05
th1aI mean, this is going to be processed programattically.20:13
replaceafillok, i'll start on it20:13
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