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| r00t-Ed | Hello | 06:05 |
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| r00t-Ed | Are you here Lumier? | 06:17 |
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| replaceafill | damn changelog! >:( | 16:13 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:27 |
| th1a | Did that screw up your upload? | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | no | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | i already uploaded *quiz* to my ppa | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | i'm now trying to install it | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | niepa should be ready in an hour or two | 16:28 |
| th1a | OK. He doesn't have any power today anyhow. | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:28 |
| th1a | That's the way these things work... | 16:28 |
| th1a | Why I don't get too crazy about his deadlines... | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | :D | 16:28 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Send David a message on Google chat when it is ready. | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:56 |
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| r00t-Ed | hello | 17:00 |
| th1a | hi r00t-Ed. | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | th1a, do you know what Ubuntu version is David Ally using? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | 12.04? | 17:03 |
| th1a | Oh... um... | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | i just asked him | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | in google | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | but he seems away | 17:04 |
| r00t-Ed | hi, i was just wondering if this would be a good place to ask a user end question | 17:04 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:04 |
| th1a | I'd guess 12.04. | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:05 |
| r00t-Ed | my wife is a teacher and yesterday she wanted to add a new category and rename other two (had guiz, homework, added projects and exams), but after she did the change and renames she noticed that schooltool also changed her q1 and q2, so she wanted to go back. | 17:06 |
| r00t-Ed | she deleted the 4 categories and added the 2 originals back. | 17:07 |
| r00t-Ed | then she saw that all the grades for Q1, Q2, and Q3 were gone | 17:07 |
| th1a | What are Q1, Q2 and Q3? | 17:08 |
| r00t-Ed | are all her grades totally gone? or can they be somehow recover | 17:08 |
| r00t-Ed | quarter 1, 2 and 3 | 17:08 |
| r00t-Ed | they are on Q3 now | 17:08 |
| r00t-Ed | there is a Q4 later in the year | 17:08 |
| th1a | Did the original activities and scores go away? | 17:09 |
| r00t-Ed | yes they are all gone | 17:09 |
| r00t-Ed | she has I think 5 classes, this only happened to 1 class | 17:09 |
| th1a | This is just her personal gradebook? | 17:10 |
| r00t-Ed | she thought she was only manipulating the categories.. yes her personal gradebook | 17:10 |
| th1a | If you wouldn't mind you could send us the database. | 17:10 |
| th1a | The scores should still be there, but it seems like she found some sort of bug. | 17:11 |
| r00t-Ed | ah, do regular users have access to that? | 17:11 |
| th1a | Access to? The database? | 17:11 |
| th1a | Is this running on your server? | 17:12 |
| th1a | does r00t-Ed have root? | 17:12 |
| r00t-Ed | no not my server, the school district is forcing teachers to use it | 17:12 |
| th1a | Where, if I may ask? | 17:13 |
| r00t-Ed | the server is run not even at her school it is at district lever | 17:13 |
| r00t-Ed | level | 17:13 |
| th1a | Is this in New York state? | 17:13 |
| r00t-Ed | yes | 17:13 |
| th1a | Ah... | 17:13 |
| th1a | You probably want schooltool.com then. | 17:14 |
| th1a | Does this look right? http://schooltool.com/ | 17:14 |
| th1a | This is schooltool.org, an entirely different project. | 17:14 |
| r00t-Ed | i think it is like schooltool.neric.org | 17:15 |
| th1a | (mostly outside the US) | 17:15 |
| th1a | Right. | 17:15 |
| th1a | OK, that's entirely different. | 17:15 |
| th1a | (whew) | 17:15 |
| r00t-Ed | oh ok, i was wondering if this was the right place to ask | 17:15 |
| th1a | So you'll need to talk to schooltool.com | 17:15 |
| th1a | No problem... the name clash is a long story I'm afraid. | 17:15 |
| r00t-Ed | yes she is dealing with the IT people, but it sounds like they are giving her the run around | 17:16 |
| th1a | Yeah... good luck to her. | 17:17 |
| * th1a has to go pick up his daughter. | 17:17 | |
| r00t-Ed | ok thank you very much, have a good day :) | 17:17 |
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| replaceafill | menesis, you around? | 17:19 |
| menesis | replaceafill: hi | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | hi menesis | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | i was wondering how do you copy something in a ppa for a different series | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | i uploaded my quiz package successfully to my ppa | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | for the saucy series | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | and i wanted to copy it for precise | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | but then i got: | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | http://askubuntu.com/questions/20835/how-do-i-copy-packages-within-a-ppa-from-one-release-to-another-nonsensical-s | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | something related to naming the package if i understand correctly | 17:45 |
| menesis | click on "View package details" | 17:46 |
| menesis | Then "Copy packages" | 17:46 |
| menesis | select the package, choose ppa (can be the same), series | 17:46 |
| menesis | and select "Copy existing binaries" | 17:47 |
| menesis | yes I think the last option is what causes the issue you mentioned | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:48 |
| menesis | the package can be rebuilt in another ppa. but in the same ppa there cannot be two builds of the same package and version | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | is it ok to go from saucy to precise? | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | or do i need to upload for the older release first? | 17:49 |
| menesis | most likely it is ok | 17:50 |
| menesis | you'll have to install and check | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:50 |
| menesis | most schooltool packages are the same for all releases | 17:50 |
| menesis | this is more an issue for packages that need to be compiled | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | like with C extensions? | 17:52 |
| menesis | yes, or C source | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | ok, i got no errors this time | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | and it says Pending | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | so i guess i'll wait | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | thanks menesis | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | one last question | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | how do you test your ppa packages in every different series? | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | chroots? | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | vms? | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | i used pbuilder-dist and got no errors | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | but i don't think that install the whole schooltool suite, right? | 17:54 |
| menesis | most of the time I simply use pbuilder (cowbuilder --login) to check that it installs and starts | 17:55 |
| menesis | or a server in the office that runs an older Ubuntu | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | yay it's published now :) | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | i'll try it on dev.schooltool.org | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | thanks menesis! | 17:56 |
| menesis | but yes, a virtual machine would be a more realistic test | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | it installed!! :D | 18:00 |
| * replaceafill is excited ;) | 18:00 | |
| replaceafill | ok, onto niepa | 18:00 |
| menesis | congratulations :) | 18:02 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Had a phone conversation with someone from here today: http://www.arkonline.org/ | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | interesting | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | UK | 18:34 |
| th1a | It is a little weird because they did development stuff in Africa, then UK school reform, now school reform in the developing world. | 18:35 |
| th1a | So they need a SIS for Uganda, etc. | 18:35 |
| th1a | So... it would be a very good fit potentially. | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | :) | 18:36 |
| th1a | We'll see... it is a little bit of a chicken and egg thing with them I think. | 18:36 |
| th1a | A few other projects under our belt and we'd be great. | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a, is it ok if i make the niepa package depend on the journal and cando? | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | they only need the gradebook functionality | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | well, the current code only needs the gradebook functionality | 18:49 |
| th1a | OK with me. | 19:13 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: I have a follow up meeting with the ARK people next week. | 22:42 |
| replaceafill | th1a, great | 22:50 |
| th1a | If there is an easyish answer for James, here, I'd appreciate your helping him out: https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/244570 | 22:51 |
| th1a | Yeah, it is at least good to know that a number of people lately have been looking at the open source options and talking to us. | 22:51 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: Where do we stand with schooltool.niepa. | 22:59 |
| replaceafill | th1a, just a sec | 22:59 |
| th1a | He's going to need it tomorrow, probably. | 22:59 |
| replaceafill | i'm finishing my meeting with the hilt folks | 23:00 |
| replaceafill | google is giving up on me :( | 23:00 |
| replaceafill | (or my network is...) | 23:00 |
| th1a | OK. | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | ok, meeting is over | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | so | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | i chatted with David | 23:04 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | he said "THEY'RE GOING TO run the latest version" | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | of ubuntu | 23:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 23:06 |
| th1a | THEY'RE GOING TO | 23:06 |
| th1a | ? | 23:06 |
| replaceafill | it seemed to me they haven't started yet | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | anyway | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | the package is ready | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | i'm writing instructions right now | 23:07 |
| th1a | Right. They were going to install today but didn't have power I guess. | 23:07 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | about the ppas they need to use | 23:07 |
| th1a | Everything is good then. | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:07 |
| th1a | We've done our part. | 23:07 |
| th1a | It is just frustrating because you never know when you're going to get the "OK, I'M ACTUALLY DOING THIS TODAY" email from him. | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | but this was indeed a good task for me | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | helped me a lot | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | i'm a little more confident about the whole thing | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | i was even thinking that the course worksheets report should be a package ;) | 23:09 |
| th1a | Well, if you've got the system down. | 23:10 |
| th1a | I'm a little worried that I've got you chasing these side bits now, but at least they are things we generally need to be able to do efficiently for clients in the future. | 23:10 |
| th1a | Might as well work out the kinks now. | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | i'll start creating ppas instead of demo instances :D | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll finish this email | 23:12 |
| replaceafill | i'm testing the instructions in a VM | 23:12 |
| th1a | OK, catch you tomorrow. Remember we have a meeting with the Karoshi guys. | 23:19 |
| th1a | (replaceafill) | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | 13:30 your time, right? | 23:20 |
| th1a | Yes... don't stay up too late. | 23:20 |
| th1a | It is on IRC, so you don't have to get dressed. | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | :)) | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | kk | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | see u th1a | 23:21 |
| th1a | later. | 23:21 |
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