IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2013-07-31

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th1a_hi menesis, yvl.16:30
th1a_I guess replaceafill's cold is the flu.16:31
yvlgood morning16:32
yvloh16:32
yvlI hope he gets better soon16:32
th1a_Indeed!16:34
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yvlbtw, your notes on security makes sense to me16:35
th1alol!16:35
th1aWell, that's good to know.16:36
yvlthe improvement on evolution I mean :)16:36
yvlunless I'm missing something obvious16:36
th1aAh.16:36
th1aOK... "School Administrator" has some significance outside of setting up and adding data to the system.16:36
th1aAnd that will increase going forward, e.g., some messages about, say, attendance might just go to School Administrators (i.e., the principal) but not the Clerk or Site Manager.16:37
yvlright16:38
th1aSo what I'm saying is that if you are a Clerk or Site Manager, you shouldn't automatically become a School Administrator.16:38
yvlthis split in roles make so much sense, I keep wondering how come we haven't done that before :)16:38
yvl* makes16:38
th1aOTOH, if you're currently a School Administrator, you shouldn't magically lose rights in the evolution, so you also become a clerk and site manager at the same time.16:39
th1aWell, one reason is that I wouldn't have thought to do it THIS way myself.16:39
th1aIt takes a bit of a leap to say "Oh, the people with the least power in the app should be the people with the most power in real life."16:39
th1aI wasn't thinking that way.16:40
yvlit16:40
yvlit's what you'd expect when software evolves16:40
th1aUsers can be helpful.  ;-)16:41
th1aSometimes.16:41
yvlyes :)16:41
th1aAnyhow, I think "manager" should be in "Site Managers" and "Clerks" by default so he or she can do the whole setup.16:41
yvl+116:42
th1aDoes that make sense now?16:42
yvlyes?16:43
yvlyes.16:43
th1aOK.  That should be an easy enough change.16:43
yvlok, I'll do it soonish16:44
yvlby the way, I haven't finished relationships yet :|16:44
yvlno big brick walls though16:45
yvljust a common mire16:45
th1aIt seemed like it would be a bit messy.16:45
yvlyeah16:46
yvlin any case, will keep pushing16:47
th1aOK.  With replaceafill's illness we'll have to push back the freeze date a bit.16:48
th1aIf we aren't done-ish with the current projects in a week we'll have to move on without them.16:48
th1aIs that ok, menesis?16:48
th1aWork for you?16:48
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th1aOr perhaps menesis isn't here...16:51
th1aThis may be a short meeting.16:53
menesisi'm here16:53
th1aAh, hi!16:53
menesiswas busy16:53
menesisand haven't read the log16:53
menesisI wanted to release and go on holiday16:54
yvlhmm16:55
yvlmaybe we can release and then do an update in a month or so?16:55
th1aWell, yes.16:56
th1aThat's what we discussed last week.16:56
th1aI'm still thinking in terms of the final 13.10 Ubuntu release.16:56
yvlah16:56
th1aThe plan is to package what we've got now to get the packaging out of the way.16:57
menesisyes16:57
menesisI was doing that the last two days16:57
th1aBut in terms of actual official release, I'd like to have the stuff under development now get in there.16:57
menesiscurrent trunk has been quiet for the last two weeks16:58
menesisso it is a good point for release16:58
menesisI will push it to ppa and universe16:58
menesisand the new developments (entrollment status) will be built for the trunk repository automatically16:59
th1aOK.  Sounds good.17:00
th1aAnything to add menesis?17:03
th1aOK.  It looks like I'm going to have a meeting with the head of the Monrovia (Liberia) school district about a pilot.17:07
th1aJeff's friend Issac has been working on that.17:07
th1aI guess I'll see you guys next week!17:08
th1aHave a good week/end.17:08
yvlthanks17:08
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:08
yvlsee you soon :)17:09
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pgulleymenesis, I'm trying to use schooltool.devtools with another project I'm working on, but I'm getting an error when I include it in my eggs19:29
pgulleyI'm sorry to disturb- replaceafill told me you were the person to talk to about this sort of thing19:30
menesispgulley: yes. what error?19:30
pgulley***BLOCKED*** by  --allow-hosts19:30
pgulleyLink to http://ftp.schooltool.org/flourish/ ***BLOCKED*** by --allow-hosts19:31
menesisfirst, this link doesn't look right, should be http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/flourish/19:34
menesisand the reason why you get it19:34
menesisbuildout.cfg or some other file that it extends19:34
menesiscontains a line allow-hosts = *.python.org19:34
menesisor something19:35
menesisadd another line containing 'ftp.schooltool.org' to this variable19:35
pgulleyaahhh19:37
pgulleyalright19:37
pgulleythanks. Novice mistake.19:37
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