| th1a | Any progress replaceafill or are you just getting back to work? | 00:22 |
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| replaceafill | just got back th1a | 00:22 |
| replaceafill | i'll make sure to have it done today and mail you an update | 00:23 |
| th1a | kk | 00:25 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, ping | 17:32 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | sorry for the delay, my ISP has been... the usual after a storm :( | 17:33 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:33 |
| th1a | OK, let me print these out. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:33 |
| th1a | I wish I had a full page version of Vinny's. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | me too | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | it's difficult to compare sizes with page 2 | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i realized layouts are stored by school year | 17:39 |
| th1a | Is that bad? | 17:39 |
| th1a | You might want to change them over time. | 17:40 |
| th1a | So it was on purpose. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | no, but we're not using the per year functionality yet, correct? | 17:40 |
| th1a | Unlike some other things. ;-) | 17:40 |
| th1a | In what sense? | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the report card looks explicitly for the "current" term/schoolyear | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | doesn't allow you to say "give me last year report card" for instance | 17:42 |
| th1a | Right. | 17:42 |
| th1a | Well. | 17:42 |
| th1a | Is there a question here or should we just move on. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | no, move on :) | 17:43 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:43 |
| th1a | How would you feel about diverging from Vinny and removing the background behind the comments themselves? | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 17:44 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:44 |
| th1a | This looks good to me at this point otherwise. | 17:46 |
| th1a | I mean, in terms of overall layout. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | want to see the "no background in comments" version? | 17:46 |
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| th1a | Have you looked at merging this with the new attendance system. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | no, not yet | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | i've been more worried about the paddings :( | 17:47 |
| * replaceafill sigh... yahoo... | 17:48 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | (from gmail) :D | 17:48 |
| th1a | Hm... there is still a background behind the row that says "comments" | 17:50 |
| th1a | ? | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | hhmm no | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | both sections are using the same color | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | (comments label and comments themselves) | 17:51 |
| th1a | Just put the light gray behind the comments header like the other headers. | 17:51 |
| th1a | I wasn't scolding you about the new attendance system, just checking. | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | ah! nicer :) | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | sent | 17:53 |
| th1a | Yeah, that's the ticket. | 17:54 |
| th1a | Although arguably the whole thing is unnecessary. | 17:54 |
| th1a | Try a gray line instead of the word Comments and the bar. | 17:54 |
| th1a | You can tell they're comments! | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | sent | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | maybe the line is too dark | 17:57 |
| th1a | Try what we were using as the background for the "Comments" line. | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | you mean a lighter line, correct? | 17:58 |
| th1a | LIghter color. | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | sent | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | i think it needs to be thicker | 18:00 |
| th1a | No... it does need to be higher though. The numbers should be centered. | 18:01 |
| th1a | Vertically. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | ah, got it | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | sent | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | better? | 18:02 |
| th1a | You could move it up a touch more and move the numbers down a touch. | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | ggrr, paragraph alignment! | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | a sec th1a, messing with the table style... | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | i still see the numbers "not aligned to the middle" | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | but that's what set in the style definition | 18:14 |
| th1a | Well... if it is turning into an RML nightmare that might be good enough. | 18:14 |
| th1a | Having a slightly larger margin below is common in text layout. | 18:14 |
| th1a | It doesn't look odd to me. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | my laptop monitor doesn't help much either | 18:15 |
| th1a | I think it is an improvement. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | i have to move it constantly to see the change | 18:15 |
| th1a | Do you have a printer? | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:15 |
| th1a | I can't do this kind of work at all with one monitor. | 18:15 |
| th1a | You should buy a second monitor. | 18:15 |
| th1a | Really. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:15 |
| th1a | You REALLY SHOULD. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:16 |
| th1a | You will work significantly faster on this kind of stuff. | 18:16 |
| th1a | And they're so cheap now. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | true, but i'll need a bigger desk :( | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | $$$ | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | :P | 18:16 |
| th1a | Get a few cinder blocks and some tin. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | anyway, that's good enough? | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | i'll print it | 18:17 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 18:17 |
| th1a | I think so. | 18:18 |
| th1a | I think it is better. | 18:18 |
| th1a | We'll need to update to the new journal system, update the layout form, and make some adjustments to the score bar. | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | ah yes, you said "hard wire journal options" yesterday | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | i suppose you want the attendance/tardies on the left, right? | 18:19 |
| th1a | Well... maybe. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | based on one of your previous comments about them looking ugly on the right | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:19 |
| th1a | If that seems possible. | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | so first, sync with journal trunk | 18:20 |
| th1a | We also need to have a space for day attendance at top. | 18:20 |
| th1a | Can you currently include journal scores in the report card? | 18:20 |
| th1a | If not, we should add that option too. | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | no, just the absences and tardies | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | the report card itself can handle journal scores though | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the report card class | 18:22 |
| th1a | Well, it will need to be an option in the layout. | 18:23 |
| replaceafill | although looking at the journal trunk, that'll require a change anyway | 18:23 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:23 |
| th1a | And the layout form can get rid of the two parts, right? | 18:23 |
| th1a | No more "outline" view. | 18:23 |
| replaceafill | in the data model they're stored separately, but i don't think that's a problem | 18:25 |
| replaceafill | according to my notes, "we should 'autodetect' comments" | 18:25 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:26 |
| th1a | Also, just so you know, to be clear, we're really going to have to do a grid only report card layout for cards with no comments. | 18:27 |
| th1a | This one only really works with comments. | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:27 |
| th1a | So all that should keep us busy the rest of the month. | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | so, when you don't "detect" comments, we adjust the table layouts? | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | as in: use a different style | 18:28 |
| th1a | It should probably be a choice. | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:28 |
| th1a | You just can't handle every case with one layout. | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | that option should go in the request dialog maybe? | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | nm | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | sounds more like a "layout option" | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll start adjusting this to the journal trunk | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | the flourish branch should stay this way though | 18:30 |
| th1a | I guess, yes. | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll go get ready for my class | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | see you later | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:32 |
| th1a | Yep. Thanks replaceafill. | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | we have a meeting with jelkner & co. today at 3pm, here | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner summer ;) | 18:32 |
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| replaceafill | hey jelkner | 21:58 |
| jelkner | hey replaceafill | 21:58 |
| jelkner | looks like we are awaiting pgully | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | i just asked him if he's coming | 22:01 |
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| jelkner | Hi pgulley | 22:03 |
| pgulley | Afternoon! sorry for the delay. | 22:03 |
| jelkner | np | 22:04 |
| jelkner | so, let's dig right in... | 22:04 |
| pgulley | yes | 22:04 |
| jelkner | I've setup two of my sections | 22:04 |
| jelkner | and added students | 22:04 |
| jelkner | You've already been shared on the document containing the big goals for the Summer | 22:04 |
| jelkner | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LeWumhh7iFudxUF2EQ92u0-sj4ZF2VpB512468kb2_k/ | 22:05 |
| jelkner | I'm adding a link to the 1st skill set I would like to load. | 22:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, are you doing that? or do you want me to help? | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | (loading the skills) | 22:06 |
| jelkner | OK, just updated the link | 22:07 |
| jelkner | I'm not ready yet with ITP 100 | 22:07 |
| jelkner | and I'm waiting to hear from Isaac regarding MTH 181 | 22:07 |
| jelkner | I'm back from vacation (staying with my brother til Sunday morning) | 22:08 |
| jelkner | And working on this project from now until August 16 th ;-) | 22:08 |
| jelkner | What do you two need from me? | 22:08 |
| jelkner | We know what we want to do. | 22:08 |
| jelkner | I'm not sure how you plan to do it. | 22:09 |
| jelkner | The first thing I will want to do is to begin making quizzes. | 22:09 |
| jelkner | So you need to let me know when I can do that. | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you answer my "loading skills question"? | 22:10 |
| jelkner | I understand this is bleeding edge, but if I put a hundred and fifty hours into making assessment items, I won't want to loose them. | 22:10 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, certainly, sir, fire away | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | i just did :D | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | 13:06 | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | do you want me to help you load the skills? | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | or are you doing that manually following the book, etc? | 22:11 |
| jelkner | let's have mr. gully do it. | 22:11 |
| jelkner | he will need to know how anyway | 22:11 |
| pgulley | Okay | 22:11 |
| jelkner | since we will be loading lots of skill sets before the summer is out. | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:11 |
| pgulley | There isn't anything to speak of that I need from you right now, jeff. | 22:11 |
| jelkner | cool, we can keep this meeting short then | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, you were able to build your sandbox, correct? | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i also sent Gediminas a note about it btw | 22:12 |
| pgulley | Yes, once that permission thing was fixed, everything else ran without a hitch | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, cool | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, http://book.schooltool.org/cando-toc.html | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | the docs for the skills importing | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | let me know if you have any questions | 22:13 |
| jelkner | once that is finished, can I begin creating quizzes? | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you hold quiz creation until monday? | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | here's the reason of my request: | 22:14 |
| jelkner | can it be Sunday? | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | i checked the trunk branches your instance is using today | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | and noticed there are some fixes available | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | and we should sync | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | i just want to make sure, the permission remap and the evolve scripts don't mess with your data | 22:16 |
| pgulley | replaceafill, the skill should be imported asap, yes? | 22:16 |
| jelkner | can that be done by sunday? | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | i.e. copy your database locally, set the latest trunks, check | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, yes | 22:16 |
| jelkner | I'm meeting with Isaac and Kevin on Sunday | 22:16 |
| jelkner | 10:30 am til closing | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | i'll have it ready by then | 22:16 |
| jelkner | Isaac will arrive around 2 pm | 22:16 |
| jelkner | sweet | 22:16 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | also | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | are you going to heavily use the journal? | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | or not at all? | 22:17 |
| jelkner | for attendance | 22:17 |
| jelkner | not for quizzes | 22:17 |
| jelkner | but yes | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | ok, that's the part with most changes i think | 22:17 |
| jelkner | ST will be our only SIS this Summer | 22:17 |
| jelkner | and I need to take attendance | 22:17 |
| pgulley | jelkner, do I have a user on schooltool.gctaa? | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | so, expect some bleeding :D | 22:18 |
| jelkner | so that will be very important | 22:18 |
| jelkner | jelkner loves to bleed | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll test and let you know everything is safe | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | ok? | 22:18 |
| jelkner | he's a masochist | 22:18 |
| jelkner | sweet | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | we all are if we're working this way! ;) | 22:18 |
| jelkner | so accept for adding students and sections | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i won't touch anything else until Sunday | 22:19 |
| jelkner | btw. | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | have you set a timetable? | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i have one | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i'm adding another | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:19 |
| jelkner | for sean | 22:19 |
| jelkner | for his evening class | 22:20 |
| jelkner | will that break? | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | we'll find out :) | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 22:20 |
| jelkner | cool | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | but we'll see | 22:20 |
| jelkner | ok, let's stop blabbing so you all can get hacking! | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:20 |
| pgulley | jelkner, do I have a user on the current schooltool instance? | 22:20 |
| jelkner | can we meet Sunday at 3 pm? | 22:21 |
| jelkner | pgulley | 22:21 |
| jelkner | no | 22:21 |
| jelkner | but you can log in as manager and make yourself one | 22:21 |
| jelkner | do you know the password? | 22:21 |
| pgulley | Ah, you did give it to me | 22:21 |
| jelkner | not sure, but replaceafill has it | 22:22 |
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| replaceafill | yes | 22:22 |
| jelkner | good afternoon th1a_ | 22:22 |
| jelkner | can we meet on Sunday at 3 pm? | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i can't sorry | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | but i'll be here early on monday | 22:23 |
| jelkner | pgulley, can you? | 22:23 |
| jelkner | it's supposed to be your gig anyway | 22:24 |
| pgulley | Yep, I'll be around | 22:24 |
| jelkner | replaceafill is the guide on the side ;-) | 22:24 |
| jelkner | pgulley do you have a car? | 22:24 |
| jelkner | dud | 22:24 |
| pgulley | to which I am ever thankful. | 22:24 |
| jelkner | duh | 22:24 |
| jelkner | of course you do | 22:24 |
| pgulley | jelkner, yes, but I won't always have use of it. | 22:24 |
| jelkner | can you join us in room 428 at NVCC? | 22:24 |
| pgulley | I'll be able to figure transportation out, however. | 22:25 |
| pgulley | yep. | 22:25 |
| jelkner | sweet | 22:25 |
| jelkner | let's do that | 22:25 |
| jelkner | I'll be there from 10:30 am on | 22:25 |
| jelkner | no need to be that early | 22:25 |
| jelkner | isaac won't arrive until around 2 pm | 22:25 |
| jelkner | we will want to make sure all systems are go for Monday morning | 22:25 |
| jelkner | and we can get a lot of work done that day | 22:26 |
| pgulley | That works for me | 22:26 |
| jelkner | sweet | 22:26 |
| jelkner | see you at NVCC then | 22:26 |
| pgulley | Is that the same room we were in last summer? | 22:26 |
| jelkner | its the main room | 22:26 |
| jelkner | not the room you were in | 22:26 |
| jelkner | the big one where the beginning class meets | 22:26 |
| pgulley | But in an area I'm familiar with at least, so that works. | 22:27 |
| pgulley | that place is still like a maze to me | 22:27 |
| pgulley | Okay, perfect. I'll see you there. | 22:27 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm going to get back to curriculum stuff | 22:27 |
| jelkner | this is exciting | 22:27 |
| jelkner | I'm eager to get going! | 22:27 |
| pgulley | likewise! | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | let the bleeding start! | 22:28 |
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