IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2013-06-27

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th1ahi menesis, replaceafill16:32
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:33
menesishi16:33
menesisI'm sorry I have to leave for the dentist16:34
menesishave nothing to say16:34
menesisjust deployed the feature to live16:34
menesisso will only work on schooltool tomorrow16:35
menesiswill read the logs later.16:35
* menesis bye16:35
th1aOK.16:35
yvlgood morning guys16:35
yvlmy dentist canceled on me :)16:35
th1aI thought you had the dentist appointment today, yvl?16:36
th1aAh.16:36
th1aOK.16:36
* th1a is very confused.16:36
yvlI imagine :D16:36
th1aAnd a bit sleepy.16:36
replaceafill:D16:36
th1ayvl:  Did I send you a copy of my logs from the non-starting truck packages?16:37
th1aI don't know that there was any useful info in there.16:38
yvlah, trunk packages16:38
yvlyes, you did16:39
menesisth1a: apt-get install python-redis16:39
th1aAh.16:40
menesisthat should fix it16:40
th1aok16:40
yvlright16:40
th1aSo that's a little packaging bug?16:41
menesisyes16:42
menesiswill be fixed on the next build16:42
th1aOK, yes, I guess that's the advantage of automatic builds.  ;-)16:43
th1aThanks menesis.16:43
th1aOK, go ahead yvl.16:43
yvlnot much to say16:43
yvlpretty much finished journal with customizable scoresystems / attendance16:43
yvlwill push tomorrow16:44
yvlstill have some loose ends16:44
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th1aDon't forget we still need evolution for the permission remap, right?16:45
th1aSo that's another loose end.16:45
yvlyes16:46
yvlright16:46
yvlthanks for reminding!16:46
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replaceafill(sorry, wrong alt + f4) :)16:47
th1aOK, so we should be able to review the attendance stuff on Monday... hm... maybe even from my new trunk packages...16:48
th1aThat would be handy.16:48
yvlI'll push to trunk, if that's what you mean16:51
th1aI think that's what I mean.16:51
th1aYou16:51
th1awill just need to do that a day ahead, at least?16:51
th1aI'm not sure when it builds.16:51
th1aThat it, yvl?16:52
yvlI think so16:52
yvlI mean - it should work that way16:53
yvlunless I'm missing something16:53
yvlso if I push Fri, it should be out there soon16:53
th1aOK.  Sounds good.  Thanks yvl.16:53
th1areplaceafill?16:54
replaceafillok16:54
replaceafilli sent you guys a sample of the current report card16:54
replaceafillnow includes attendance info16:54
replaceafilland the comments are fixed16:55
replaceafillyvl, i have a question16:55
replaceafillis it possible to know the length of a string in rml16:55
yvlkind of :)16:55
replaceafillyou did something on that area for grids, correct?16:56
yvlsee...16:56
yvlschooltool/table/pdf.py16:56
yvllook for pdfmetrics.stringWidth16:56
yvlyou'll need font and it's size16:57
replaceafillah great16:57
replaceafilland that gives me "inches"?16:57
yvlumm16:58
yvlunits I think16:58
replaceafillah ok16:58
replaceafillcool, i want to use that for the comments table16:58
replaceafillheader: comment16:58
replaceafilli want to adjust the header column according to the longest16:59
yvlah, it's called points16:59
yvl(see reportlab/lib/units.py;  inches are defined as 72.0 points)16:59
replaceafillah16:59
yvlbe careful with adjusting16:59
yvlsometimes strings split17:00
yvlsometimes there's padding17:00
replaceafillah ok17:00
yvlit's ok to do this, just be careful17:00
replaceafillit doesn't have to be too "strict" or "tight" :)17:00
replaceafillth1a, i have a question for you17:01
replaceafillis this new report card going to land in both series: flourish and trunk?17:01
th1aWhy wouldn't it?17:01
replaceafillnm, i was just thinking that the trunk series of the journal is richer now17:02
replaceafilli mean, feature-wise17:02
th1aWell, yes, we'll have to deal with that.17:02
replaceafilli thought we may want to change that part a bit for trunk17:02
replaceafillok17:02
th1aIn the meantime, I have the sinking feeling we've gone too far away from having a grid.17:03
replaceafilldo you want me to add some borders?17:04
th1aUh...17:04
replaceafillor maybe i didn't get your last comment right :)17:05
th1aTo be honest I'm looking at this now and thinking "Why did we ever move away from the grid section over comment section?  What were we even thinking?"17:05
replaceafillmaybe it needs to be more like vinny's design?17:07
replaceafilldo you feel the same with his original design?17:07
th1aOH!17:07
th1aOK.17:07
th1aI guess I'd better look at that.17:07
replaceafill:D17:07
replaceafillthe bible th1a!17:07
th1aI couldn't remember why we'd done this at all.17:08
replaceafill:|17:08
replaceafillwell, in the meantime, i'll work on the student detail report17:08
replaceafillvery similar to this one17:08
replaceafillno comments, and it has a table with absences dates17:08
replaceafilli mean, in the current version17:09
replaceafillwe could add more stuff ofc17:09
th1aJust a sec.  Let me remind myself of Vinny's.17:09
replaceafillsure17:09
th1aOK, we just need to match his formatting more closely.  In particular, we can't waste vertical space.17:12
th1aWe can't give everyone a five page report card.17:13
replaceafillright17:13
replaceafillunderstood17:13
replaceafillyou looking at paget 2 of the guidelines5.pdf?17:13
replaceafillsee the background for comments?17:13
replaceafillshould i add that?17:14
th1aYes, you should match that formatting as closely as possible.17:14
replaceafillok, cool17:15
replaceafillah, last question17:15
replaceafillthe Average17:15
th1aLet's say attendance will be controlled by the report card layout, not a separate thing.17:15
th1aSo in the same row as the grades.17:15
replaceafillok17:15
th1aHowever much the user wants.17:15
replaceafillas 2 separate columns?17:15
th1aWe'll need to add some detail to that after yvl is done with his updates.17:15
replaceafilli mean, one for absences and one for tardies?17:15
th1aYes, up to the user.17:16
replaceafillvinny used 44/5017:16
replaceafillah ok17:16
th1aWe could add that as an option in the layout step.17:16
replaceafillok17:17
replaceafilli'll fix  this17:17
* replaceafill done17:17
th1aThe student detail report can be longer, and it could include all the attendance detail in a separate section, more like you've got now.17:17
th1aIt is a set format anyhow.17:18
th1aOK, thanks replaceafill.17:18
th1aI guess that's it.17:19
th1aThanks guys.17:19
th1aHave a good week/end.17:19
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:19
replaceafillthanks everybody17:19
yvlthanks guys17:21
yvlsee you Mon17:21
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