IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2013-01-14

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th1ahi replaceafill, menesis, yvl.16:31
yvlgood morning!16:31
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:32
th1aJust got off the phone with Welsh.16:32
th1aCanDo is up to 30 school systems in Virginia.16:32
th1aI'm almost done with an article for on CanDo.  Just need another revision or two.16:34
th1aOK, yvl?16:36
yvlworking on various small issues with celery16:36
yvldevil's in the details :/16:36
yvlother than that it's been a slow week16:37
th1aWhat sort of issues are you sorting out?16:37
yvlwell, for example I still don't know why zeo sock is left open16:37
yvlafter supervisor stops zeo16:38
yvlalso task results expire from redis DB16:38
yvlso need to put something into ZODB16:38
th1aexpire when?16:39
yvlat some point16:39
yvldon't know exactly when :/16:39
yvlfew days from completion maybe16:39
yvlor few reastarts from completion16:39
th1aPlease let me know if you're running into a serious blocker.16:40
yvlof course16:40
yvlyou know, I need to sit down and write some task cards :)16:40
yvlon paper :)16:40
* yvl has a hunch he's running around in circles16:41
* th1a has the same hunch.16:41
th1aMake some cards and send me a picture.16:41
th1aBasically you have a week and a half to tidy up (taking into account getting ready for the trip, etc).16:43
th1aAlso, make sure we're focusing our attention on problems that would potentially cause data loss or data to not be saved.16:44
yvlalso - security16:44
yvlbut data loss comes first of course16:45
th1aBoth of those are essential.16:45
th1aOK.  Anything else, yvl?16:46
yvlthat is all for now16:46
th1aThanks.  Send me a snapshot!16:46
menesisI have finished one thing16:47
menesispackaged schooltool-book16:47
menesisother than that,16:48
menesisprepared a release: reviewed last changes, document them16:48
menesismerged translations16:49
menesisdepending on what others have to say16:50
menesiswill be ready to make a 2.4a1 release tomorrow16:50
th1aI don't think I have any reason to object.16:50
replaceafilli'm shooting for having dwelsh requests for wednesday16:51
replaceafillto virginia reports16:51
replaceafilli don't think i'll touch core or gradebook though16:51
replaceafilljust cando + virginia16:51
th1areplaceafill is anxious.16:52
th1aOh, I see.16:52
menesisI'll start with core and gradebook, cando & virginia later16:52
th1aYou're saying go ahead replaceafill?16:52
replaceafillth1a, yes16:52
replaceafillfor core and gradebook16:52
replaceafilli think we all agree? :)16:52
menesisand intervention if aelkner has finished his changes16:53
menesisthat's all16:55
th1aHe's just got a CanDo bug to clean up today.16:55
th1aI'll have him ping you when he's done.16:57
th1aOK, thanks menesis.16:59
replaceafilllast week i worked on updating our reports to use the skill score system feature16:59
replaceafilland then found a couple of issues16:59
replaceafillwhich i reported to the list16:59
replaceafilli think aelkner is checking that17:00
replaceafillso, since i got a little blocked about it, i moved to solving dwelsh requests17:00
replaceafillhe had some about inserting the IEP description in the student gradebook17:00
replaceafill(that's done)17:01
replaceafillalso, about changing iep skills in the Student competency report to "No"17:01
replaceafill(i'm in the middle of that)17:01
replaceafilland then some report renaming, adding one more column to the report th1a loves a lot...17:01
replaceafill... the one with lots of numbers ;)17:02
replaceafill(i'll work on that today)17:02
replaceafilli told dwelsh i should have everything ready for wednesday17:02
th1aI'm sorry you're also bug boy right now, but could you take a look at the question about gradebook averages?17:02
replaceafillah, sure17:03
th1aOK.  Thanks.17:03
replaceafillbtw, i also investigated
replaceafilland wrote what th1a and i discussed as a comment17:03
replaceafillto get to it later17:03
th1aRight.  Good.17:04
* replaceafill done17:04
th1aOK, thanks replaceafill.17:05
th1aThat should do it.17:05
th1aYou guys are staying in the same hotel here in PVD.17:05
th1aCan't beat the access to good food.17:05
th1aSee you Wednesday and in less than two weeks!17:06
replaceafillgood food!!!17:06
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:06
yvlyay! :)17:06
yvlsee you soon guys :)17:06
replaceafillthanks everybody17:06
th1aI have to start researching the Lovecraft tour as well...17:07
yvlthanks th1a!17:10
replaceafillth1a, i'll ask the average question user about his gradebook setup17:38
replaceafillhe says he's using 30% + 40% + 40%17:39
replaceafillhe's missing 10% :D17:39
th1aWait, that's 110?17:39
th1aSo an extra 10%?17:39
th1aOK, ask him that.  DId you look at how we're calculating it?17:40
replaceafilloops not missing, exceeding17:40
replaceafilli think it's similar to this question in spanish:17:40
replaceafillbut i want to make sure he's actually using the score system17:40
th1aDoes what he describes for the formula match what we do internally?17:41
replaceafilli think so, i'm checking with sample data though17:41
replaceafillwhat i like about this email is the "is my everyday tool for almost 4 yeas" :)17:45
th1aJeez, I didn't notice that!17:46
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th1aHm... 1 dollar = .75 euro today.  Makes the calculations tidy...19:35
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aelknerhey replaceafill20:54
aelknermenesis, ayt?21:32
* replaceafill is back from lunch21:33
replaceafillhi aelkner21:34
aelknerhey replaceafill21:35
aelkneryou saw my note, the problem is rather strange, but i'm sure i can work it out21:36
aelknerit seems that the skills gradebook gets called even though the request is for the project gradebook21:36
th1aI sent you an email aelkner.21:38
aelkneri just replied :)21:38
aelknerreplaceafill, so i found this:21:42
aelknergradebook = ISkillsGradebook(worksheet, None)21:42
aelknerline 132 of cando gradebook, inside the ProjectsGradebook class!21:42
aelknercan you explain what you had in mind there?21:42
replaceafillsorry, i was away21:45
replaceafillit's for the update functionality21:47
replaceafillwhen you update a skill in a project21:47
aelknerbut updating the project gradebook is different than updating the skills gradebook21:47
replaceafillif the skill comes from a skillset in the same section21:47
aelknerdifferent set of skills21:47
replaceafillthat updates the skills gradebook21:47
replaceafillsuppose you set 3 for the project skill21:48
replaceafillthe 3 must land in the skills gradebook too21:48
replaceafillbut the equivalent could be in another project21:48
aelknerwell, maybe that's it then, because they don't land there21:48
replaceafilli think you misunderstood my issue21:48
replaceafillor the issue i found21:49
replaceafillthe problem i reported is:21:49
replaceafillyou create skills with different score systems, right?21:49
replaceafillassign them to skillsets, etc21:49
replaceafillassign those skillsets to a course21:49
replaceafillthose skills should be converted to section skills21:50
replaceafillwith their respective scoresystem21:50
replaceafillwhat is happening now, is that the section skills are getting cando's default score system21:50
replaceafillso you get the *mismatch* in the scoresystems21:51
replaceafillfrom project to skills gradebook21:51
replaceafill(i think)21:51
aelkneri'm getting a mismatch in the activities21:51
aelknerso i have a project that has four activities21:51
aelknerthe skills gradebook has two21:51
replaceafillok, let's do something21:52
replaceafilllet's put the projects gradebook problem aside for a moment21:52
replaceafilllet's just focus on the skills gradebook21:52
replaceafill*that* is the problem is really blocking me21:52
replaceafilldo you understand the issue?21:52
replaceafillif i create my own skills with different score systems21:53
aelknerok, one sec, jeff has just called me21:53
replaceafilli expect the skills gradebook to use those scoresystem21:53
aelknercan you do a hangout?21:56
replaceafillhhm ok21:57
replaceafillgive me 5 mins21:57
replaceafilli'll get my stuff21:57
replaceafillok ready21:59
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