IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2013-01-02

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th1ahi replaceafill, yvl, menesis.16:31
th1aayt aelkner?16:31
yvlgood morning guys :)16:31
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:31
th1aI have to get a wrap up report from aelkner at some point...16:32
th1aHm... ok, replaceafill, did you stop with any loose ends or immediate TODO's?16:33
replaceafillth1a, basically yes16:33
replaceafilli rest a lot :D16:34
replaceafillbut i did try yvl's report branch16:34
replaceafilli think that's next for me?16:34
th1aBasically my question is do you have anything other than that?16:34
replaceafillhhmm i don't think so16:35
th1aOr, for that matter, anything you need to point out to menesis for merging or whatever.16:35
replaceafillno, nothing new16:35
replaceafilli do have something i want to do16:35
replaceafilllike today16:35
replaceafilli want to clean the vps16:36
replaceafillit's running 10.0416:36
replaceafillmaybe we could install 12.10 on it?16:36
replaceafillit also has 97% of its HD used16:36
th1aSure, do that.16:36
replaceafillon my home directory, i think only Chandara's data is important16:37
replaceafill(and they haven't used it much)16:37
replaceafilli'm not sure if yvl has something in th vps he needs saved?16:38
replaceafillmaybe aelkner?16:38
th1aFeel free to nuke any demos that haven't been touched in, say, over a month or so, except maybe for NIEPA and Cambodia.16:38
replaceafillth1a, sure16:38
replaceafillok, i'll do that today16:39
replaceafill(i also updated my laptop to 12.10 during the vacation) :)16:39
replaceafilli'll set up a testing instance for dwelsh with iep too16:39
replaceafillth1a, what should i work next?16:40
th1aDefinitely ping dwelsh when that's ready.16:41
th1aOn to reports.16:41
th1aFirst we have to update CanDo reports to work with aelkner's per skill score system changes.16:42
replaceafillnew ones? or porting old ones?16:42
th1aThen CanDo reports.  We can update old ones first.16:42
th1aBut you and I are going to switch into collaborative design mode, basically.16:42
replaceafillgot it16:43
replaceafilli'll create a list of existing reports16:43
replaceafill(i'm not sure how many we have)16:44
th1aWell, hopefully that will mostly be clear from our report summary view.  ;-)16:44
replaceafillok, i'm done16:45
th1aOK, we should probably check in tomorrow morning?16:45
replaceafillsure, same meeting time, right?16:45
th1aWe could do a hour later if you want to sleep in.16:45
replaceafillhhmm no, meeting time is ok16:45
th1aOK.  What time is it for you?16:45
th1aI guess you don't have DST.16:46
replaceafill8:30 am16:46
th1aIs it 7:30 when we're on DST?16:46
th1aTomorrow meeting time then.16:46
th1aThanks replaceafill.16:46
yvlhi :)16:46
yvlI'm working on the celery thing16:47
yvlthere are still stuff to finish16:47
yvlfigure out how to run tests best16:47
yvlconfigure queues - so that imports would run sequentially16:48
yvlalso - how to serve files that are now located in blob directory16:48
yvlprobably just serve them in a separate process from our main zope instance16:49
th1aCan we make static files go out more in parallel?16:49
yvlsure, but I'd have to look how16:49
yvlprobably just configure paste so it served them from separate process, without requiring zope at all16:50
th1aYes...  Also, what would be the deal with sending that kind of stuff not through https?16:51
yvlthey would have to configure their servers16:51
yvlmaybe some Apache rewrite rule16:52
yvlmaybe something more16:52
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th1aHm... I'd really love that sort of thing to just work from our debs.16:53
th1aAlthough I'm prematurely optimizing.16:54
menesishttps requires manual setup16:54
replaceafillssl is one thing i'd like to start using in my testing instances this year :)16:54
menesiscreate SSL certificate, special virtualhost16:54
th1aTrue https is always going to be somewhat manual due to the cert issue.16:54
th1aI'd just generally note that would be desirable to not send stuff over https that doesn't have to, correct?16:55
th1aLess encrypting/unencryping.16:56
menesisyou may get insecure content mixed with secure content warning16:57
th1aI'm only thinking about this because of the https timeouts we're getting on certain school networks.16:57
th1amenesis:  Ah, true.16:57
th1aI don't really understand the cause though, so I'm only guessing at possible solutions.16:58
th1aSo take all this with a very large grain of salt.16:58
th1aI need Matt to explain it better.16:58
yvlwe should just not cause the timeouts16:58
yvlideally :)16:59
th1aThat too.  ;-)16:59
th1aOK, nevermind -
th1aI was thinking it was pretty standard to mix things that way.17:01
th1aAnyhow, yes yvl, I want to you keep working on the celery stuff.17:03
th1aWe want that pretty nailed down by the sprint.17:03
yvlI think we're on same page about that17:04
th1aYes.  I just wanted to make sure the meeting wasn't TOO short.17:04
th1aThanks yvl.17:04
menesisI have been resting through the holidays17:06
menesisso little done17:06
th1aOf course!17:07
th1aI for one have done nothing.17:07
menesishave some small bugfixes and that's all17:08
menesisI am not really sure how to make the supervisor/celery usable from other plugins or how to transfer that to ubuntu system install17:09
th1aOK.  How can we move forward with that?17:09
menesiswe don't have a convenient multi-school setup now17:09
th1aDo you just need to sit down with a pot of coffee and yvl?17:09
menesisbut supervisor and multiple processes makes that even harder17:10
th1aI don't think convenient multi-school setup is a priority for the debs.17:10
th1adebs need to be school-in-a-box.17:10
th1aBigger installations I'd presume need custom configuration of some sort.17:10
menesisthere are system-wide supervisor and redis configuration files17:11
menesisand a running redis-server17:11
menesisbut if there are to be multiple schools17:11
menesisI don't think those are useful17:12
yvlpersonally, I would prefer separate redis db17:12
menesisso I think to have the configuration files like in sandboxes and each running their own supervisor17:13
menesisand services17:13
menesisyvl: yes, because redis db don't have names, only "db number 1"17:13
th1aMy general view is that getting SchoolTool instance #1 running via debs should continue to be a one step process.17:15
th1aIf it takes you two days to get instances 2-n running on a single server, that's fine.17:15
menesiswe don't have that now17:16
th1aBecause then you're not talking about trying to make something a school secretary can install.17:16
yvlit is possible, but very manual and tedious17:16
menesisbut I don't have this working yet, new setup is too different17:17
th1aOK... as long as you aren't blocking yourself on doing something on the new version that doesn't work on the old version anyhow.  ;-)17:17
menesisI got some xls import errors and fixed them17:19
menesisbut I admit I'm stuck on this celery stuff for too long now17:22
th1aWell... we may have to work on it at the sprint.17:23
th1aIt is a comprehensive change.17:23
menesisyvl is working on something too17:25
th1aCan you and yvl sit down and try to come up with a plan.17:25
menesisbut the basics are there17:25
menesisI only have to integrate infrastructure17:25
* yvl caught a cold and working from home17:27
th1aOK.  Get together when you can for a solid chunk of time.17:27
th1aWell, looks like we'll be done right on time.17:28
th1aHave a good week/weekend gentlemen.17:28
th1aTalk to you tomorrow replaceafill.17:28
replaceafillth1a, quick request17:29
replaceafillcould you reset the password in the linode account?17:29
th1aOh, uh...17:29
replaceafilli think your gmail account is used for the vps17:30
th1aThe account as a whole?17:30
yvlsee you Mon guys17:31
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:31
th1aNot the server password?17:31
replaceafillthe linode account17:31
th1aLike, to log into
th1aDid I give you that password at one point?17:32
th1aI'm not sure what you're getting at.17:32
replaceafillcheck your email :)17:32
replaceafilli requested the reset ;)17:32
replaceafillbut it's landing in your gmail :(17:32
replaceafillyes, you gave me the password when we started Cambodia17:32
replaceafillbut i probably changed it at some point and forgot :(17:33
th1a"Someone, hopefully you, has requested that your Linode account password be17:34
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replaceafillth1a, the account has two linodes?17:39
replaceafilli mean, two vps's?17:39
th1aWell... the second is the stalled server.17:39
replaceafillnow i understand the message about the london one!17:39
th1aThe Shuttleworth Foundation hasn't been returning my emails...17:40
replaceafillour dev vps is still in dallas ;)17:40
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