IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2012-10-22

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th1ahi replaceafill, aelkner, yvl.16:31
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:31
yvlgood morning16:31
th1aOK... aelkner, you've got the new script working for VA CTE?16:33
aelknerLee ran it, and next Glenda will prove that it succesfully reimports into her demo instance16:34
aelknerafter that, we need to publish it as the current verso_skills.xls16:35
aelknerthen i need to change the script to match on skillset id rather than download order16:35
aelknerthen we can hand them that version and they can run it any time without our intervention16:35
aelknerso i'm going to call them today after glenda has tried the reimport to discuss the status16:36
aelknerin the meantime, i started looking at changing the Search tab view16:37
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aelkneri had a question: if we get rid of SkillSets tab, we need to add a SkillSet link to the Add menu16:38
th1aIs that a question?16:38
aelknerwell, no, i guess it's a statement awaiting confirmation16:39
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aelknerSearch is really the index.html view of INodeContainer16:39
aelknerso that why the Add Node link is obvious16:40
aelknerwe're changing that view to show skillsets and skills16:40
th1aActually, you can't really add skills through the web right now without a document.16:40
aelknerwell, now we can, but after we reove the SkillSets tab, we won't16:40
th1aLets just make users use documents for now.16:41
* menesis hello world16:41
th1aIf they want to add through the web.16:41
th1ahi menesis.16:41
aelknershould we get rid of the Add Node link from the Search view?16:41
aelknerok, then it would be consistent16:42
th1aI doubt anyone will squawk.16:42
aelknerok, that's it for me then16:43
th1aOK, so you're going to finish up:16:44
th1asearching including skills and skillsets and16:44
th1awell, including them in sort, etc.16:45
th1aThen you're ready for reports.16:45
aelknerbtw, how should the mixed search results of nodes, skillsets and skills sort?16:45
aelknerby label?  that has a different meaning between the different object types16:46
th1aIn what sense?16:46
aelkneri mean that sorting by label is not really a meaningful sort16:47
aelknernodes, skillsets and skills will still be interwoven, even if they label is sorted16:47
th1aThat's kind of by definition what happens when you sort.16:48
th1aWe will need a type field to let you sort by type as well.16:48
th1aI guess...16:49
th1aYeah, we probably should.16:49
aelknerright now the Search view list only nodes16:49
aelknerand the columns are:16:49
aelknerLabel, Title (sortable), Layers16:49
aelknernodes can have more than one layer, of course16:49
aelknerskillsets and skills have no layer16:49
aelknerbut we are changing the view to pretend that there are SkillSet and Skill layers16:50
aelknerand that their checkboxes may look like:16:50
aelkner_ SkillSets (DuryArea, Compentency Group)16:50
aelkner_ Skills (Task, Competency)16:51
aelknerwhere the things in paraentheses are actual Layer objects16:51
th1aIt is just like if you list the contents of a folder it sorts different kinds of files alphabetically.16:51
th1aOr by size...16:51
th1aor by type.16:51
aelknerso, should the column still be titled, Layers?16:51
aelknerand we just put SkillSets of Skill there?16:52
aelknerSkillSet, i mean16:52
aelknershould that be the left-most column, then Label, Title16:52
aelknerand hve it sort by Layers, subsort Label?16:52
aelknerbtw, you understand i'm making a new table for INodesContainer for this one view only16:53
aelknerin the document views, we will be using the current NodesTable16:53
th1aI'd put layers last (at right) and sort by label.16:54
aelknerwhich has only nodes in it, of course16:54
aelknerok, change nothing in the order of columns, just change it to sort by Label16:54
aelknerbtw, the standard NodesTable as well as the SkillSets and Skills tables don't sort by Label16:55
aelkneri guess i should change those as well16:55
aelknerok, one last thing, we need to change the cando gradebook to sort the solumns by label16:55
th1areplaceafill:  Do you want to do that?16:56
aelkneri was going to suggest that he handle that as he is closer to that view at this point16:57
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aelknerthat's it, if replaceafill_ has to do it, he quits :)16:58
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replaceafill(sorry, i got disconnected) :(16:58
th1areplaceafill: we need to change the cando gradebook to sort the solumns by label17:00
th1aCan you do that?17:00
aelknerok, anyway, after i fix the Search view and change the tables to sort by Label17:01
aelkneri will still have the scoresystems branch to merge17:01
aelkneras soon as you feel that we wat to17:02
th1aWe're going to do that after the reports, which we want to get to asap.17:02
aelknerok, well then i'll do that as the next thing17:03
aelkneranyway, that's it for me17:03
th1aThanks aelkner.17:03
replaceafilllast week i finished the virginia completion reports17:03
replaceafillasked dwelsh for feedback17:04
replaceafillhe liked the Location filter17:04
replaceafillhe gave some performance feedback too17:04
replaceafillth1a and i worked on report descriptions17:05
replaceafillupdated the overview page a little17:05
replaceafilli noticed that we have several open questions17:06
replaceafillin LP i mean17:06
th1aI'll take a look.17:06
replaceafilli took a little time to help here:
replaceafillwe also updated the homepage17:07
replaceafilli created a branch which should be the official one17:08
replaceafilland at the end of the week17:09
replaceafillglenda reported an issue with a user not able to see the Sections accordions right17:09
replaceafilli was confused for a while until IE was mentioned :|17:09
replaceafillit seems there's a site in the pilot that is using IE to access CanDo17:10
replaceafillso i looked for a way to install IE17:10
replaceafillfound that there are some VMs available for download17:10
replaceafillfrom IE6-IE917:11
replaceafillSchoolTool seems mostly broken in IE7-IE817:11
replaceafillIE9 is way smarter :)17:11
replaceafillbut even if the person index view breaks (because of JS)17:12
replaceafillyou can still see the jstree widget with the teachers sections17:12
replaceafillso i don't understand glenda's issue17:12
replaceafilli ended the week looking for a way to run an automated test in IE17:12
replaceafillkind of like selenium IDE17:12
th1aIs there any reason having the user send the actual source of the page might help?17:13
th1aLike if something isn't loading?17:13
th1aCould a viewlet be timing out or something?17:13
yvlreplaceafill, did you try using selenium with IE?17:13
* th1a is grasping at straws.17:13
th1aI think we have to get this person to try with some other browser to confirm that's the issue.17:14
replaceafillyvl, i downloaded the IE webdriver, but haven't done anything with it yet17:14
yvlah, ok17:14
replaceafillth1a, i think the user will17:14
replaceafillaccording to glenda's last email17:14
th1aSo basically we haven't been able to reproduce?17:14
th1aI'm not sure I want to throw resources in to Selenium IE right now.17:15
replaceafillme neither17:15
th1aesp. if we can't reproduce the problem manually.17:15
th1aIt may be something really strange.17:15
replaceafillso, should i stop on IE testing?17:16
replaceafilland move on?17:16
th1aWell, I'd say we need more data.17:17
th1aThe question is what exactly to ask for.17:17
replaceafilli'm really confused:17:18
replaceafill"Some teachers are not having a problem which is17:18
replaceafillinteresting if we all have the same programs."17:18
th1aWe do have a security debug view now right?17:18
replaceafillwhich runs on devmode, right?17:19
replaceafilli haven't used it much17:19
th1aIf this isn't a CSS problem, I'm not sure how to approach it.17:19
th1aWell, we'll hold off on that.17:20
replaceafillso, the gradebook labels now?17:20
th1aI'll send an email.17:20
th1aYes, then IEPs.17:20
th1aThen we're "done" with CanDo.17:20
th1aThanks replaceafill.17:21
* replaceafill done17:21
yvlI'm not sick anymore17:21
yvland today I'm working with images17:21
yvlwas doing thumbnails most of the time, and now fixing the photo refresh17:22
yvlturns out... well, there were multiple bugs17:22
yvlnothing sinister, but time consuming17:22
yvlI should be done some time tomorrow17:23
th1aOK.  I think you should get a head start on the new report styles then.17:23
yvlso that's my daily report :)17:23
th1aFeel free to pick an existing report and try to update the style.17:24
th1aWork on improving that process.17:24
th1aThanks yvl.17:25
th1aHave you been up to anything?  ;-)17:25
menesisnot much17:26
menesisI have made releases of everything17:26
menesison Friday17:26
th1aThat's something!17:26
menesisnothing new from me in them17:27
menesisI had one crash on my system instance, but turned out that the blobs directory was not copied17:27
menesisso fixed evolution to not crash, just ignore unavailable photos17:28
menesisAlso updated the release notes17:29
th1aWe aren't losing photos are we?17:29
th1aDo we need to be telling people something about migrating their data if they have photos?17:29
menesistell people - yes17:30
menesisto migrate data17:30
menesisyou need to copy the Data.fs AND the blobs directory17:30
th1aWhere is that?17:31
menesis/var/lib/schooltool/blobs /var/lib/schooltool/Data.fs17:31
th1aRight now that's all images?17:32
th1aUser contributed images.17:32
menesisperson photos17:32
menesiscontact photos, and school logo17:32
yvlat some point there will also be reports17:33
th1aWe probably should have named it differently, but oh well.17:35
th1aHow do I find the quantal repos?17:36
menesisin the 'soft' announcement17:37
th1aOh... I've been looking in the dev ppa.17:38
th1aSo at this point, CanDo users are going to stay in the dev ppa for 12.04?17:39
menesisI think they want to stay on 12.0417:39
th1aYes, but they're also in the dev ppa right?  And we don't really want to bother trying to get them to change.17:40
th1ai.e., they all won't anyway.17:40
menesisthey don't need to change17:42
menesisall the summer they were testing precise/dev ppa17:42
menesisnow I have uploaded the same to quantal/main ppa17:42
th1aOK.  We just need to remember that that "dev" ppa is now our biggest production ppa.17:43
th1aSo we might need a new "dev" or something.17:43
menesisI will add a table to the install instructions in the book to map ubuntu versions/sources to schooltool releases17:43
menesisubuntu  | universe | ppa   | dev17:43
menesisquantal | 2.1.1    | 2.3   | -17:43
menesisprecise | 2.1      | 2.1.1 | 2.317:43
menesisoneiric | 1.7      | 1.7   | 2.1.117:43
th1aOK< that will help, menesis.17:43
menesisbut yes, one more ppa (unstable) would be useful17:44
th1aOK.  Looks like my upgrade worked.17:46
th1aThanks menesis.17:46
th1aThanks gentlemen.17:47
th1aLet's try to put our current work to bed so we can start our report "sprint."17:47
th1aIt is more of a middle-distance run.17:47
th1aReport 400 meters.17:48
th1aHave a good week.17:48
th1aSee you wednesday.17:48
replaceafillthanks everybody17:48
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:48
aelknerthanks guys, cya wed17:49
yvlthanks guys!17:50
th1ayvl, aelkner:  We can't import CSV to the gradebook now, right?18:11
replaceafillth1a, skills are sorted by label now in the skills gradebook:
th1aCool.  Thanks.19:23
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