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| * replaceafill wonders if we need the serif font for our reports... | 16:33 | |
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| * yvl shrugs | 16:36 | |
| th1a | Hm? | 16:36 |
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| th1a | When? | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | i guess i'll wait for vinny to finish his design | 16:36 |
| th1a | At the same time? | 16:36 |
| th1a | What is the more general question? | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a, it's just that for using the ubuntu font for the id cards, i've inserted the ubuntu fonts directory our path | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | i don't like that change very much | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | having liberations fonts AND ubuntu fonts | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | but it's better this way, so i don't mess up existing reports | 16:37 |
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| th1a | What is wrong with it? | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | it makes me uncomfortable, that's all :D | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | and i'm not sure if menesis will agree to it, from the packaging pov | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i have it in my agenda for monday talk | 16:39 |
| th1a | I suspect you're being pedantic. | 16:40 |
| menesis | we don't have to use liberation fonts | 16:40 |
| menesis | and I think we don't use Serif font at all | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | menesis, but if we change, we have to adjust our reports, right? | 16:40 |
| menesis | actually only sans is used in reports | 16:43 |
| menesis | if we change font report will look different | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | correct | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | menesis, can you comment on this one: http://pastebin.com/VkNui6XF | 16:43 |
| th1a | Let me get this straight -- we have to set which fonts are available globally? | 16:44 |
| menesis | in rml templates the font is called Times_New_Roman but we can register anything by that name | 16:44 |
| menesis | and Arial is not used | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | th1a, right, we have to register fonts with reportlab and that's done on start up | 16:44 |
| menesis | but the reports are by no means beautiful | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:45 |
| menesis | so I don't mind changing them | 16:45 |
| menesis | :) | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | +! | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | oops | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 16:45 |
| th1a | And basically we're considering restricting our font choices for no reason in particular? | 16:45 |
| th1a | Yes, we're re-designing them right now. | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | i'd say, we should change to ubuntu font now and "break" the reports look for a while | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | instead of having two font directories to look into | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | like i've done in that ^ diff | 16:46 |
| th1a | Look, it will take about five minutes for someone to ask how to change the font. | 16:46 |
| th1a | Printed reports are different than web pages. | 16:47 |
| menesis | one cannot change font in report now | 16:47 |
| menesis | and the change does not introduce that | 16:48 |
| th1a | As far as I can tell, we're talking about not including standard fonts for no reason in particular, which strikes me as pointless. | 16:48 |
| menesis | replaceafill: yes, the diff you pasted looks good | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | menesis, cool, if you're ok with it | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | menesis, i don't like the path1:path2 trick | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | menesis, to me it would be better just having the ubuntu fonts path and that's it | 16:49 |
| menesis | : is path separator | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | menesis, right | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | menesis, i think it's kind of "standard" in linux, right? | 16:49 |
| th1a | We're going to need other fonts. | 16:50 |
| menesis | replaceafill: yes | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | th1a, imo that should go into "css for pdfs" task | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | that goes* | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | giving the user that ability | 16:51 |
| th1a | Don't break anything at this point. | 16:51 |
| th1a | Please. | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | th1a, right, that's why i did it this way | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | to not break things | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | sorry for the whole discussion | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | it's just me when i'm not comfortable with one of my changes | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:52 |
| menesis | replaceafill: this needs a change in configuration file | 16:55 |
| menesis | if the conf file is not updated, Ubuntu font will not be found | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | menesis, yes | 16:56 |
| menesis | so this can break | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | menesis, true | 16:57 |
| menesis | well, at most the new id cards will not work | 16:57 |
| menesis | but there's no other way to add new fonts to reportlab currently | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | i could try to detect if the ubuntu font is available for id cards | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | and change the layout if they're not | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | pdfmetrics.getRegisteredFontNames :) | 17:12 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: Oh, at some point today I'd like to get this set up to push my D3 experiments to the server. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | th1a, cool, let me know when you have your branch ready | 17:41 |
| th1a | replaceafill: What would being ready entail? | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | being in launchpad | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | so i can branch it, modify it and push again | 18:16 |
| th1a | Actually can you give me a login on a demo instance for Vinny, too? | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | i'll set up a separated demo instance for him with small sample data, ok? | 18:17 |
| th1a | Sure, whatever. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | so, i dont mess it up with my changes | 18:17 |
| * replaceafill goes to set that up | 18:18 | |
| th1a | I included the whole library. https://code.launchpad.net/~tom-hoffman/+junk/d3 | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sample xls loaded in http://69.164.203.135/schwa | 18:26 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | th1a, merge lp:~replaceafill/+junk/d3 to your branch | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | i added a Makefile | 18:47 |
| th1a | kk | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | you can "make upload" now and the contents of your directory will be copied to the server | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/d3/ | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | and will be available there ^ | 18:47 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks! | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | it will ask you for your vps password every time | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | if that's annoying | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | set up your authorized_keys in the vps ssh account | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | or send me your id_rsa.pub file and i'll do it for you | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | or... i can take the one you use in lauchpad :) | 18:49 |
| th1a | I guess you could use that. | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a, done | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | it shouldn't ask you for your password now | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | let me know if it works | 18:51 |
| aelkner | th1a, i just had a google hangout with yvl, really cool | 19:04 |
| aelkner | he gave me a tour of his relationship ajax stuff, not yet merged into trunk | 19:04 |
| th1a | I guess I have to learn how that works... | 19:04 |
| th1a | Does it let you do multi-user chats? | 19:04 |
| aelkner | but he said he will have that merged by our monday meeting | 19:04 |
| aelkner | yes | 19:05 |
| aelkner | want to try it with douglas now? | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | we should make one of our meetings that way sometime | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | just to test :) | 19:05 |
| th1a | We could try it Monday. | 19:05 |
| th1a | http://69.164.203.135/d3/ri-frl/frl.html | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:06 |
| aelkner | ok | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | i see it black and white | 19:06 |
| th1a | ? | 19:07 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, i want to invite you to a hangout | 19:07 |
| aelkner | how do i do that, it only allows for adding circles | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, sure | 19:07 |
| th1a | Uh... Firefox... | 19:07 |
| aelkner | i don't want to invite a whole circle, just you | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i need to be in one of your cicles | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | circles* | 19:07 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, true | 19:09 |
| replaceafill | it's in colors in chrome | 19:09 |
| th1a | I think I'm just missing the # | 19:09 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 19:10 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, how do i invite just you? | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | you just did | 19:11 |
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| aelkner | th1a, about section locations | 19:46 |
| aelkner | yvl showed me his ajax stuff for relationships | 19:46 |
| aelkner | although i may not be needing it right now, it was interesting to see the new implementation | 19:46 |
| aelkner | oh, and ayt? | 19:46 |
| aelkner | ok, you must be having lunch | 19:47 |
| aelkner | i'll look for you in a while | 19:47 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, why are there dots above the bars in the chart? | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | (just curious) | 19:52 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: That's the additional "reduced-price lunch" eligibility. | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | ah | 20:13 |
| th1a | Basically they are usually lumped together, so it essentially conflates poor and lower-middle class students. | 20:14 |
| th1a | Mysteriously higher performing schools tend to have a higher share of "reduced-price" students. | 20:14 |
| th1a | Another stacked bar would probably be better but a little more complicated. | 20:17 |
| th1a | I'm going to wrap this little demo up today and start on real CanDo reports next week. | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | seems like the example you or david or yvl drew during the sprint | 20:18 |
| replaceafill | i mean two variables in the same bar | 20:18 |
| replaceafill | it's funny that svg doesn't have "save image as" :D | 20:19 |
| aelkner | th1a, i had some questions about section locations | 20:19 |
| * replaceafill goes to get lunch | 20:19 | |
| th1a | OK, just a sec aelkner. | 20:19 |
| aelkner | ok | 20:20 |
| th1a | go ahead | 20:21 |
| aelkner | so i had a nice hangout with yvl to get a tour of his ajax relationships branch | 20:22 |
| aelkner | he'll merge it by the monday meeting | 20:22 |
| aelkner | but it will not be hard to add relationship stuff to the sction view using the new view classes | 20:23 |
| aelkner | anyway | 20:23 |
| aelkner | i understand what your bug report is asking for, and i can tell you wanted to start with something simple | 20:23 |
| th1a | But... | 20:23 |
| aelkner | only thing is that i don't want to bother implementing something complex (code wise) | 20:23 |
| aelkner | if we are jsut going to throw it out | 20:24 |
| aelkner | so instead of creating a vocabulary, possible form adapters, etc | 20:24 |
| th1a | The part we aren't implementing is the calendar part. | 20:24 |
| aelkner | i'm referring to the dropdown in the title, description form | 20:24 |
| th1a | But I don't literally want you to do something we would have to throw away. | 20:24 |
| aelkner | i'd rather not go thorough said headache | 20:25 |
| th1a | Search instead? | 20:25 |
| aelkner | if we are only going to decide later (probably) that we will support mutiple locations | 20:25 |
| th1a | OKfine. | 20:25 |
| aelkner | and we don't even have a Resources section | 20:25 |
| aelkner | so | 20:25 |
| aelkner | shall we add two secitons to the section view | 20:25 |
| aelkner | Resources | 20:26 |
| aelkner | Locations | 20:26 |
| aelkner | and forget about equiptment for now | 20:26 |
| th1a | I'd rather forget about resources. | 20:26 |
| th1a | What is a resource? | 20:26 |
| aelkner | unfortunate names that were decide so many years ago that lead to confusion | 20:26 |
| aelkner | resources have three types | 20:27 |
| th1a | That was a rhetorical question. | 20:27 |
| th1a | I'm just saying, if we're doing two, why don't we do the two specific ones. | 20:27 |
| aelkner | the three types of resources are resource, location and equiptment | 20:28 |
| aelkner | it's the fact that resource is a type of resource | 20:28 |
| th1a | ... | 20:28 |
| aelkner | that's the unfortunate confusing thing to discuss | 20:28 |
| th1a | If we're adding two sections, it should be location and equipment. | 20:28 |
| aelkner | what about resources? | 20:28 |
| aelkner | why have the type | 20:28 |
| aelkner | if we are't going to use it | 20:29 |
| th1a | Look, you're the one who suggested not using all three. | 20:29 |
| th1a | I'm saying, if we're using two, those should be the two. | 20:29 |
| aelkner | that's cool | 20:29 |
| aelkner | perhaps we'll find that resource typed resources are not even a user need | 20:29 |
| th1a | If people actually start using this, then you need the complexity. | 20:30 |
| th1a | If nobody uses it, you don't. | 20:30 |
| aelkner | sounds like a plan | 20:30 |
| aelkner | so | 20:30 |
| aelkner | Locations and Equiptment are two tables with the pencil next to the title, like Students and Instructors | 20:30 |
| aelkner | sound good? | 20:31 |
| aelkner | also, what would the proper order of the tables be (including Students and Instructors) | 20:32 |
| th1a | Yes... until we add an accordion to sections, which apparently will be very soon. | 20:32 |
| aelkner | i was thinking the resouces could come first since they are small | 20:32 |
| aelkner | and the students (as it is now) is the largest and thus at the end | 20:33 |
| aelkner | but yes, an accordion makes the order not as vital | 20:33 |
| th1a | Just put them at the bottom. | 20:33 |
| aelkner | ok | 20:33 |
| th1a | We can't push the more important information that far down. | 20:34 |
| aelkner | i guess the accordion would have title, description open by default | 20:35 |
| aelkner | but that's for later | 20:35 |
| aelkner | anyway, you answered my questions | 20:36 |
| aelkner | thanks | 20:36 |
| th1a | Sure. | 20:36 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: So next week I'm going to need a static json dump from CanDo that I can use to build some reports. | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | :| | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | ah, you mean from the report we saw during the sprint? | 22:47 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | ah phew | 22:47 |
| th1a | I mean, we can kind of fake it. | 22:47 |
| th1a | Or... entirely fake it. | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | i thought you meant json-rpc requests :D | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | no, we have the data | 22:47 |
| th1a | It might be easier to fake it. | 22:48 |
| th1a | I'm just not sure what data we need. | 22:48 |
| th1a | We need to look at the reports. | 22:48 |
| replaceafill | we still have running the cando instance we set up for the sprint | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | with dwelsh data | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | in case you want to see it | 22:50 |
| th1a | We can do that Monday. | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | th1a, nice post about d3 | 22:52 |
| replaceafill | and nice picture below :) | 22:52 |
| th1a | I can't get the scale on the left side to print correctly. | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | you mean the horizontal line? | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | or numbers for the axis? | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | this svg stuff is pretty cool :) | 22:56 |
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