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| jstraw1 | th1a: ayt | 00:31 |
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| jstraw1 | th1a: please check my sprint book stuff | 00:35 |
| jstraw1 | I put draft cando stuff in it | 00:35 |
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| jelkner | fsufitch: what's up? | 02:29 |
| jelkner | i'm doing my laundry | 02:29 |
| fsufitch | jelkner: im busy being sick <_< | 02:46 |
| jelkner | fsufitch: sorry to hear that | 02:47 |
| jelkner | rest up, and get better | 02:47 |
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| th1a | Anyone have a clue why this would come up on a .deb install: ImportError: No module named paste.script [fail] | 17:18 |
| th1a | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/334365 | 17:18 |
| ignas | th1a: restarting should fix it | 17:19 |
| ignas | or plain installing python-paste.script or was it python-paste first | 17:19 |
| th1a | Restarting what? | 17:19 |
| ignas | /etc/init.d/schooltool-2008 start | 17:19 |
| ignas | the h | 17:19 |
| ignas | oh | 17:20 |
| ignas | sorry | 17:20 |
| ignas | weird | 17:20 |
| ignas | I was sure I have fixed this problem | 17:20 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:20 |
| ignas | manualy installing python-paste or/and python-paste.script | 17:20 |
| ignas | should fix it | 17:20 |
| th1a | apt-get update? | 17:20 |
| th1a | apt-get install python-paste? | 17:20 |
| ignas | apt-get install python-paste | 17:20 |
| ignas | apt-get install python-paste python-pastescript | 17:21 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 17:22 |
| ignas | though if pastescript is there (we are not the ones installing it) he should not be getting the error... | 17:22 |
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| ignas | /usr/bin/paster | 17:22 |
| ignas | is in the same package as it's python code | 17:22 |
| th1a | Well, we'll see what happens. | 17:23 |
| ignas | ok, i am going home now to do some assembly | 17:26 |
| ignas | chair assembly ;) | 17:26 |
| th1a | Assembler programming? | 17:26 |
| th1a | Assembling a strategic cruiser on SiSi? | 17:27 |
| ignas | did that already | 17:27 |
| ignas | don't have anyone to test it one ;) | 17:27 |
| ignas | test it on | 17:27 |
| th1a | How do the new graphics look on your box? | 17:27 |
| ignas | well - same as the old ones | 17:28 |
| ignas | but the UI! | 17:28 |
| ignas | they have made it 10 times more responsive | 17:28 |
| th1a | Nice. | 17:28 |
| ignas | dragging windows is not painful anymore | 17:28 |
| th1a | Are asteroids different? | 17:28 |
| ignas | haven't been in space that much ;) | 17:28 |
| ignas | also - the new fitting screen is very nice | 17:28 |
| th1a | The new effects look nice. | 17:29 |
| ignas | i have found some bugs, but it's nice ;) | 17:29 |
| th1a | I'm not sure if it is going to be the death knell for my graphics card and motherboard. | 17:29 |
| ignas | ok, see you tomorrow ;) must run now, been at work since early in the morning | 17:29 |
| th1a | nn | 17:29 |
| ignas | th1a: oh, what do you think of our new german contributors? | 17:30 |
| th1a | Hm? | 17:30 |
| ignas | i have forwarded you the mail i think | 17:30 |
| th1a | Oh... yes, I need to read that email. | 17:30 |
| ignas | :) | 17:30 |
| th1a | Thanks for reminding me. | 17:30 |
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| jstraw | th1a: did you get my note yesterday? | 17:54 |
| th1a | Yes, I'm just making a couple tiny changes and I'll push the new version. | 17:56 |
| th1a | jstraw: Where can they get the Virginia competencies XML? | 17:58 |
| jstraw | th1a: we'll need to post em | 17:59 |
| th1a | Push them to svn? | 18:00 |
| jstraw | th1a: maybe a good idea | 18:00 |
| th1a | Could you do that? | 18:04 |
| jstraw | th1a: let me check with welsh before I add it | 18:14 |
| th1a | OK... | 18:15 |
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| ignas | replaceafill, hi | 18:31 |
| ignas | replaceafill, i won't be online tomorrow ;) and today I got more time than I expected ;) | 18:31 |
| ignas | yay new chair at home] | 18:32 |
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| replaceafill | ignas, hey | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | i saw your mail | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | nice trick with the viewlets | 19:16 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Congratulations for your progress with Grok. | 19:17 |
| ignas | I think i'll merge the grokified component to trunk, and add grokcore stuff to our next release | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | nice! | 19:18 |
| th1a | Can I see the grokified branch? | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | lp:~ignas/schooltool/schooltool_grokking_contacts/ | 19:18 |
| ignas | https://code.launchpad.net/~ignas/schooltool/schooltool_grokking_contacts for browsing | 19:19 |
| ignas | the src/contacts module is grokkified | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | ignas, th1a: should i keep grokking another packages? | 19:20 |
| th1a | Let me take a look at the branch... | 19:20 |
| ignas | hmm, if you want to grokkify another package i'd say it should be one of basicperson/schoolyear/lyceum journal as these are pretty new code and should be easier to manage without digging too deep | 19:22 |
| ignas | definitely don't touch calendaring, app and timetabling | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:25 |
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| replaceafill | is there any z3c.form, z3c.pagelet directives involved in those packages? | 19:26 |
| th1a | Here's what I'm wondering -- not so much what can we do to grokkify what we've already written, | 19:26 |
| th1a | but what can we do to make future development -- by outside developers -- more Grok-like. | 19:26 |
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| ignas | th1a, hmm, what do you mean grok like? | 19:26 |
| th1a | Easier. | 19:27 |
| th1a | Less explicit configuration. | 19:27 |
| th1a | Less boilerplate. | 19:27 |
| ignas | th1a, my idea is - after grokkifying a few packages we should start noticing some patterns that would make it possible to do some things in an easier manner | 19:27 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:27 |
| ignas | th1a, like - how should we do actions for new content objects | 19:27 |
| th1a | Yes, more than one example is probably good. | 19:28 |
| ignas | actions/navigation/traversal | 19:28 |
| ignas | are the boilerplate that is schooltool specific | 19:28 |
| ignas | other things like evolution and localisation are porbably unavoidable... | 19:28 |
| th1a | Exactly. | 19:28 |
| ignas | also we can make test collection and test boilerplate more compact | 19:29 |
| ignas | probably | 19:29 |
| ignas | if you look at the grokkified package | 19:29 |
| ignas | in the browser/contact.py you will notice that all the stuff except the absolute urls and action items | 19:30 |
| ignas | is describing the functionality pretty concisely anyway | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:30 |
| th1a | Yeah, it looks pretty nice. | 19:31 |
| ignas | as for the rest of the boilerplate | 19:31 |
| ignas | the only way I imagine doing it is the way grokproject does | 19:31 |
| ignas | which is - write an example | 19:31 |
| ignas | convert it into a template | 19:31 |
| ignas | and have schooltool_plugin script | 19:31 |
| ignas | and schooltool_custom_school script | 19:32 |
| ignas | that creates all the parts for you | 19:32 |
| th1a | What about traversal? | 19:33 |
| ignas | setting stuff in setup.py properly, adding translation directory, setting up translation stuff, adding evolution scripts, adding a layer for your plugin/school | 19:33 |
| ignas | well - at the moment we only have 1 module grokked, later we should probably either: | 19:34 |
| ignas | add grokky baseclasses for traversal plugins | 19:34 |
| ignas | to keep the traverser registration 1 line | 19:34 |
| ignas | or add class level directives | 19:34 |
| th1a | That was the bit that leaped out at me. | 19:34 |
| ignas | to say that "i can be traversed into from school tool application" for example | 19:34 |
| ignas | the absolute url stuff definitely can be refactored out | 19:35 |
| ignas | but i want to see more of the cases | 19:35 |
| ignas | before creating schooltool/grok/ module with all that stuff | 19:35 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | ignas, is it possible to merge your branch with mine? | 19:36 |
| th1a | Sounds good. I'm happy we've made such quick progress. | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | or should i start a new one? | 19:36 |
| ignas | replaceafill, i think you should just pull from my branch | 19:36 |
| ignas | and your branch will be updated | 19:36 |
| ignas | hmm | 19:36 |
| ignas | if you will work on another module - branch from this one | 19:37 |
| ignas | into a new branch though | 19:37 |
| ignas | so I could still merge contacts first, and then merge the other module | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | do we use z3c.pagelet or something like that somewhere? | 19:38 |
| ignas | pagelet - nope | 19:38 |
| ignas | replaceafill, too much stuff to rewrite at the moment | 19:38 |
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| ignas | would be nice, but someone has to look at our macros and refactor everything to use pagelets/layouts | 19:38 |
| ignas | and I don't realy have time for playing with that at the moment | 19:39 |
| th1a | Does Martijn know about this yet? | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | should i name my new branch schooltool_grokking_basicperson? | 19:43 |
| ignas | replaceafill, yeah, that would be nice | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | cool | 19:44 |
| ignas | th1a, oh he will know about it ;) i have some complaints to file ;) | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:44 |
| th1a | :-) | 19:44 |
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| ignas | th1a, argh, the german developers will be fun, they seem to be having some interesting problems there ;) | 19:45 |
| ignas | and they seem to understand the system pretty well too | 19:46 |
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| th1a | ignas: Yes... I'm reading the response now. | 19:46 |
| th1a | They certainly seem to know what they're doing. | 19:46 |
| jstraw | th1a: where was that cando mail thread going on? | 19:49 |
| jstraw | cause I don't seem to get any of it | 19:49 |
| th1a | She emailed Welsh. | 19:50 |
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| jstraw | ah | 20:21 |
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