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| Bhaskar | th1a:hello | 05:41 |
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| th1a | Bhaskar: Hi. | 05:41 |
| th1a | I have a sleeping baby on my right hand so i can' really type. | 05:42 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:ok | 05:42 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: what is going new ? | 05:43 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i have developed user mannual | 05:44 |
| th1a | Bhaskar: Well, we had a baby last week. that's new. | 05:44 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: congratulation for that | 05:45 |
| th1a | I assume the manual is in nepalese? | 05:45 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: nepali as well as english | 05:45 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: how many baby you have? | 05:46 |
| th1a | 1 now. | 05:48 |
| th1a | http://www.flickr.com/photos/14049009@N00/sets/72157594502044744/ | 05:48 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:nice baby | 05:52 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i will send you this mannual for suggestion | 05:54 |
| th1a | thanks. | 05:54 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:your comments and suggestion will fruitfull to me for doing better | 05:55 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: our meeting here conclude that how to make easy installation of schooltool for ordinary people, coz now installation process is difficult for general people | 05:57 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i think you are also feeling that | 05:58 |
| th1a | Well, once we are done we'll have a proper installer. | 05:58 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:thanks | 05:59 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i have svn info 6611, still some strings are untranslatable | 06:00 |
| th1a | there are a lot to track down. | 06:01 |
| th1a | how many are left? | 06:01 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i think around 30 | 06:02 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i am listing those | 06:02 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: nice work, help is added there | 06:03 |
| th1a | Yes. Translatable help. | 06:03 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: one my suggestion: if we can add language select menu, it is easier to user to switch language for interface | 06:05 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: so user can view interface either english or in their local lang by menu | 06:05 |
| th1a | righr. | 06:06 |
| th1a | t | 06:06 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i think this is easier to user | 06:07 |
| th1a | ok | 06:07 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: if you feel better for this approach,for testing i 'll send nepali po and mo, so we can switch either nepali and english | 06:10 |
| th1a | Well, i don't know when we'll actually change the code. | 06:11 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i think , you will make plan for that, according to your schedule , you can | 06:12 |
| th1a | i can ask the developers. | 06:13 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: well, | 06:13 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i think schooltool is distributed system, but now there is no such provision , right? | 06:15 |
| th1a | hm? | 06:16 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i m wrong? | 06:17 |
| th1a | distributed in what way? | 06:17 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: many client can access from a single server sharing memory... | 06:18 |
| th1a | well, it is a web application after all. | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: ok | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:in http://localhost:7080/calendar : how can i translate into nepali ? | 06:22 |
| th1a | translate what? | 06:22 |
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| Bhaskar | th1a: i was disconnected coz fluctation on electricity here | 06:48 |
| th1a | ok | 06:48 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:now i am sending you a draft version of user mannual | 06:49 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i m sending in gmail | 06:54 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: i m talking about can we translate numerical data of calendat e. g 1,2....31 into local lang nurerical value??? | 06:55 |
| Bhaskar | numericals | 06:56 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:ps check gmail, i have recently send you user mannual | 06:59 |
| th1a | Ah. Good question about the numbers. Please send it to schooltool-dev. | 07:08 |
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| Bhaskar | th1a: have you get user mannual? | 07:21 |
| th1a | I did, but I don't have time to look at it now. | 07:21 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: it's ok but it is just 15/16 page | 07:23 |
| Bhaskar | th1a: in free time you can see this in detail | 07:23 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:in page http://localhost:7080/calendar: can we localised numerials eg 1, 2 ..31 in local lang numerals? | 07:25 |
| th1a | I have no idea. You should ask on schooltool-dev list. | 07:26 |
| Bhaskar | th1a:ok | 07:27 |
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| ignas | th1a: ayt? | 09:09 |
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| Bhaskar | ignas:hello | 10:20 |
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| Bhaskar | ignas: there is error while installing schoolbell, | 10:48 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:i m trying from subversion | 10:57 |
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| ignas | schoolbell ? | 11:49 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i have started to localised the schoolbell also | 11:53 |
| ignas | schoolbell is not really supported | 11:54 |
| ignas | so i am not sure it will work | 11:54 |
| ignas | you can pase the error message | 11:54 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: ok | 11:54 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:ok | 11:54 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i think i will work for localised | 11:55 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i will start to localised CanDo also very soon | 11:58 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:i have been testing with Nepali data, in schooltool | 11:59 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i have pointed some untranslatable string, have you got mail | 12:00 |
| ignas | yes i got the mail | 12:00 |
| ignas | some of these strings (the commendation ones) should get into launchpad sooner or later, after launchpad team will review them ... | 12:01 |
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| Bhaskar | ignas:well | 12:01 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:hello | 12:02 |
| jinty | hey Bhaskar | 12:02 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i have send you schooltool mannual that i have developed, have you got | 12:02 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: pls suggest and comment for further improvements | 12:03 |
| ignas | Bhaskar: https://launchpad.net/schooltool/development/+pots/schooltool.commendation/ | 12:41 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i get this one | 12:42 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: now i think i have to join 2 po file, development series and commendation, ya? | 12:43 |
| ignas | no, you just have to download both files | 12:44 |
| ignas | and put them in the nepali translation folder | 12:44 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:ok | 12:46 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: i think still some string has missing, ya? | 12:46 |
| ignas | some yes | 12:48 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:i think still around 40 strings | 12:51 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: translation of schoolbell is allowed or not ? | 12:52 |
| ignas | schoolbell.pot in https://launchpad.net/schooltool/development/+pots/schoolbell is for schooltool | 12:53 |
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| Bhaskar | ignas:i think schoolbell do not support translations, i m right? | 13:00 |
| ignas | no | 13:01 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: but i have update translation, could not get transable interface in nepali | 13:08 |
| ignas | do you know the difference and relationship between schooltool and schoolbell ? | 13:09 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:ya | 13:09 |
| ignas | really ? | 13:09 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:procedure to translation is similar | 13:10 |
| ignas | ? | 13:10 |
| ignas | why do you want to translate schoolbell ? | 13:10 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: similar purpose as schooltool | 13:11 |
| ignas | do you know that schoolbell is deprecated? | 13:12 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: we can use schoolbell in school also so | 13:12 |
| ignas | but you should not | 13:12 |
| ignas | schoolbell has bugs | 13:12 |
| ignas | and bugs in schoolbell will not be fixed any time soon | 13:12 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: ok | 13:12 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:ok, i think your team's priority is for schooltool now | 13:13 |
| jfroche | ignas: still have problem with launchpad bugs ? | 13:13 |
| ignas | hmm, they are not assigned to anyone it seems | 13:16 |
| ignas | and shouldn't Fix Committed status be the same as closed? | 13:16 |
| Bhaskar | ignas:ok,i hope you will add remaining strings on schooltool translation template | 13:18 |
| Bhaskar | ignas: bye now | 13:18 |
| jfroche | ignas: from Fix commited can we set them closed ? | 13:19 |
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| ignas | i think so | 13:20 |
| ignas | no one is going to do anything with such bugs | 13:20 |
| ignas | hmm | 13:20 |
| ignas | all the important backports have been performed anyway i think | 13:20 |
| ignas | and yes, it seems that i have no permission to assign a bug to myself | 13:21 |
| jfroche | bug is launchpad usable now or should i contact james to perform a new import ? | 13:21 |
| jfroche | ok mailing james | 13:21 |
| jfroche | cc you | 13:22 |
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| ignas | th1a: ayt? | 17:53 |
| th1a | ignas: Yes. | 17:53 |
| ignas | i think i'll get a vis | 17:54 |
| ignas | visa | 17:54 |
| ignas | i am getting my pasport back tomorow | 17:54 |
| ignas | passport | 17:54 |
| th1a | Excellent. | 17:54 |
| ignas | and i went to meet with lyceum people | 17:54 |
| ignas | had a quite enlightening meeting. | 17:55 |
| th1a | Yes? | 17:56 |
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| ignas | well apparently the task i am facing is quite different from the one Jfroche is | 17:57 |
| ignas | for US or Belgium schools schooltool is a replacement for some existing systems that people are already using | 17:58 |
| ignas | while in lyceum schooltool is the first one | 17:58 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:58 |
| ignas | thus they want to integrate schooltool very slowly | 17:58 |
| ignas | because there are a lot of innertion not to use anything, etc. | 17:59 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:59 |
| ignas | thus all the complexity reducing changes, module removal etc. | 17:59 |
| ignas | as well as lack of reusable parts | 17:59 |
| ignas | a non user friendly enough component just won't be used by teachers who already do not really want to use the system ... | 18:00 |
| ignas | so they want me to put more focus on schedules, Advisor teacher role, calendaring as these can be used by teachers more easily | 18:01 |
| ignas | they don't want to give accounts to students and to elevate privileges of non authenticated people as well | 18:02 |
| th1a | That was the original plan with doing calendaring first ;-) | 18:02 |
| ignas | because well - someone would have to manage passwords, data etc. | 18:02 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:02 |
| ignas | while having a public schedule (not calendar) for every class in the school is a real and very active pain at the moment | 18:03 |
| ignas | the school is very Student + Teaching focused, thus the system will have to cope with quite a mess ;) | 18:03 |
| th1a | What do you mean by Student + Teaching focused? | 18:04 |
| ignas | th1a: having a huge mess in the paperwork :) | 18:04 |
| ignas | like - schedules being finalized only 1 month since the beginning of the school year | 18:04 |
| ignas | "after" not "since" i guess | 18:05 |
| th1a | Oh. Constantly changing. | 18:05 |
| ignas | for a month | 18:05 |
| ignas | yes | 18:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:05 |
| th1a | Well, these are real problems. | 18:05 |
| th1a | Lyceum isn't the only one that has them. | 18:06 |
| th1a | I think probably we'll want to have a small number of interested teachers test some of the other functionality as well. | 18:06 |
| ignas | indeed, Computer Science teachers are getting accounts soon | 18:07 |
| ignas | and then a lot of link hiding will follow | 18:07 |
| ignas | and then i'll work on schedule views for groups and probably persons | 18:08 |
| th1a | Ah. OK, that's good. | 18:08 |
| ignas | so that students could see their schedules (public anyway) without logging in | 18:08 |
| ignas | and then, group calendars that collect timetable events from all the persons in the group | 18:09 |
| ignas | so that students without accounts could still see assignments | 18:09 |
| th1a | OK. These are good use cases. | 18:09 |
| ignas | the idea is to have teachers using the system first | 18:09 |
| ignas | and at the moment Schooltool is pretty closed up if you don't have a log in | 18:10 |
| ignas | our attendance being student based will have to be reworked | 18:11 |
| ignas | i am even thinking that starting with something very simple from scratch would be easier | 18:11 |
| ignas | because well - they don't need a lot of baggage that is in schooltool.attendance | 18:12 |
| th1a | ignas: If you think that will be best, go for it. | 18:12 |
| th1a | I definitely inflicted some baggage on attendance. | 18:12 |
| ignas | well, it is useful for a US / GB scenario | 18:13 |
| ignas | i have yet to think what to do about roles as well ... | 18:15 |
| ignas | teachers should not have a link to attendance of their own | 18:15 |
| ignas | or to their schedule | 18:15 |
| ignas | scheduling view i mean | 18:15 |
| ignas | and the summer will be spent on rehearsing a new school year :) | 18:16 |
| ignas | ok, going home early, had a very long day... | 18:18 |
| ignas | bye | 18:18 |
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