IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2006-04-13

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povbot/svn/commits: * hoffman committed revision 5896:06:47
povbot/svn/commits: Simplifying the sparklines.06:47
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povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5897:15:05
povbot/svn/commits: Attendace permissions: - added new schooltool.viewAttendance permission; - added new roles coresponding to groups15:05
povbot/svn/commits: (schooltool.teacher, schooltool.maganer, etc);15:05
povbot/svn/commits: - evolution script to assign new roles to groups.15:05
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 5898:16:06
povbot/svn/commits: Added a cache that stores unexplained attendance records.  The subscribers are not yet registered in ZCML.16:06
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povbot/svn/commits: Fixed undeterministic tests.16:06
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mgedminso, has anyone tried the new Google Calendar service yet?17:52
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povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5900:18:17
povbot/svn/commits: Automatic xpdl update by jawe.18:17
povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5901:19:11
povbot/svn/commits: Make student attendance view accessible only by clerks, managers and administrators.19:11
th1amgedmin:  I have not.19:12
th1aBut check out: http://chalksite.com19:12
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 5902:19:54
povbot/svn/commits: Extended the workflow to reference the absent student.19:54
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 5903:19:55
povbot/svn/commits: Added a stub for the attendance control panel view, visible only to clerks and administrators.19:55
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povbot/svn/commits: Updated UnresolvedAbsenceCache to store absences together with students.19:55
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 5905:21:02
povbot/svn/commits: Cosmetic fix.21:02
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povbot/svn/commits: Typo.21:02
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povbot/svn/commits: Registered attendance cache subscribers, made the attendance panel functional.21:02
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sili_what sort of background to the developers have?21:11
th1aZope and Python.21:12
sili_for the SIS bit, in particular21:12
th1aIt's all Zope 3 and Python.21:12
sili_th1a: and in terms of experience with education?21:12
th1aWell... I'm a teacher.21:12
th1aOtherwise, the developers don't have much K-12 experience.21:13
sili_i see21:13
th1aOther than being students.21:13
th1aNot a lot of great open source hackers who have also spent a lot of time in primary and secondary schools.21:13
th1aWe do have a related project called CanDo that is run by teachers and coded by students.21:14
sili_ya... education can be a scary field21:14
th1aWhat's your angle, sili_?21:15
sili_i'm leaning back about degrees21:16
th1aI tend to form an arc, unfortunately.21:16
sili_i like to slowly lean in closer and closer to the monitor21:17
th1aI'm working on being more angular.21:17
sili_then realize, backup, and repeat21:17
th1aI'm also wrestling with Yast trying to get SuSE running on VMware on Ubuntu.21:17
th1aWhich is making me increasingly curved.21:17
sili_i haven't used suse21:18
th1aI want to get iFolder running, and since it is a Novell product, I thought I might have more luck with SuSE.21:18
th1aAnyhow, do you have school/SIS experience, sili_?21:26
sili_dataware housing, reporting, SIS21:34
th1aI see... any Python experience?21:34
sili_i read a tutorial once.21:34
sili_i'm write a student scheduler as we speak...21:35
th1aDo you work for a school district? A company?21:36
th1aOr is this your hobby ;-)21:36
sili_haha. a company that does k12 software21:36
sili_i guess technically schooltool is competition21:38
th1aIn theory.21:38
th1aWhat part of the world are you in?21:39
sili_southern cali21:39
sili_we've managed to find clients in places like MI though21:39
th1aDo you guys do SIF?21:42
th1aAre you a Java shop?21:46
sili_we can SIF in mind though... PHP mostly21:47
sili_keep* god i keep messing up today21:47
th1aWhat kind of DB do you use for data warehousing?21:53
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sili_th1a: postgresql, mysql23:47
sili_mysql is for our older product; we've learned lessons since then23:48
th1asili_:  I see.23:48
th1aI never know exactly what people mean when they say "data warehouse."23:48
sili_th1a: from google: A data warehouse is a database geared towards the business intelligence requirements of an organisation. The data warehouse integrates data from the various operational systems and is typically loaded from these systems at regular intervals. Data warehouses contain historical information that enables analysis of business performance over time23:50
sili_th1a: i interpret it to mean anything that does the job of storing my data and making it usable for reports needed23:50
sili_i think the specifics are only familiar to marketers :p23:54

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