IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2005-12-29

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erchachehi jinty12:18
jintyhey erchache12:18
erchachewhere are you on barcelona or your home?12:19
jintyat home in barcelona;)12:20
erchacheuhmm....you fix your home on barcelona? for work or what?12:22
erchachejinty12:23
jintynot sure I understand the question...12:23
jintymy home is in barcelona and normally I work from home.12:23
erchachedo you live on barcelona definitively?12:24
jintyyes, for the last 2 years12:24
jintyI am even registered with the ajuntamiento12:25
jintyI don't know how long I will stay here, but have no plans to leave12:27
erchacheare you working for canonical, shuttleworth foundation...?12:27
jintyno, only freelance up till now12:28
erchacheahhh good12:28
jinty?12:28
erchachejejejeje dont worry12:29
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povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5511:13:40
povbot/svn/commits: Changed method name.13:40
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5512:14:04
povbot/svn/commits: Make the sparkline unit test human readable.14:04
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5513:14:12
povbot/svn/commits: Big fat Oops.14:12
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5514:14:17
povbot/svn/commits: Sparkline generator interface polish:14:17
povbot/svn/commits: - Explain the width constant -- it is in data points, not pixels.  - Fix the meaning of point_width and spacing arguments of render.  - Make renderAsPngData forward all its arguments to render.  - Add a docstring for renderAsPngData.14:17
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5515:14:19
povbot/svn/commits: Remove AttendanceSparkline.renderAsUriData citing YAGNI reasons (it ain't supported by MSIE, therefore we ain't gonna use it).14:19
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5516:14:20
povbot/svn/commits: On second thought, let doctest_AttendanceSparkline remain in peace.  Integration tests also have their uses.14:20
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5517:15:45
povbot/svn/commits: Added missing i18n attributes.  Sadly this doesn't fix the two DeprecationWarnings.15:45
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5518:15:47
povbot/svn/commits: Fix deprecation warnings.  It turns out that context.label is a i18nmessageid.15:47
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povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5519:16:18
povbot/svn/commits: Moved code from view's __init__ to __call__ and update.16:18
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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5520:16:26
povbot/svn/commits: Allow zope.wfmc into the minimal tarball. This sucks, but is necessary.16:26
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5521:16:28
povbot/svn/commits: update a test to allow zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc through.16:28
algajinty: hi16:29
algaare you packing the release tomorrow?16:29
jintyI don't think so, I have quite a few things to test before I can even start to look at the issue tracker16:30
jintythough at least the nightly builds are working;)16:30
jintyfor instance, how do I even build a schoolbell tarball?16:31
alganot even a haziest idea :-)16:31
mgedminjinty, I think you can't16:32
mgedminsricther's refactoring broke everything into pieces; schooltool was reassembled; schoolbell wasn't16:32
jintythat's my fear...16:32
mgedminth1a says it's not a priority16:32
jintyUnfortunately I don't have the human bandwith these days to fill the gap...16:35
jintypopcon stats show schoolbell users outnumber schooltool users 7:1 (16 installtions in total so not exactly representative)16:39
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5522:17:22
povbot/svn/commits: More tests and for realtime attendance.  Extracted student row info into an object.17:22
srichterthe pieces we need to build schoolbell again are just coming together, such as viewlets and so on17:49
jintysrichter: will it be possible for a Zope 3.2/schooltool 2006 combination?17:51
srichterrelease Z3.2 and ST on the sam edate?17:52
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5523:17:52
povbot/svn/commits: Bugfix: ISectionAttendanceRecord.date now looks at the school-wide timezone properly.17:52
povbot/svn/commits: As a result, all datetimes passed to SectionAttendanceRecord need to have timezone info; and unit tests that use section attendance need to have a ISchoolToolApplication adapter stub.17:52
povbot/svn/commits: What's this adapter, I hear you say?  Well, now you can (and should!) use17:52
povbot/svn/commits: from schooltool.app.interfaces import ISchoolToolApplication app = ISchoolToolApplication(None)17:52
povbot/svn/commits: instead of17:52
povbot/svn/commits: from schooltool.app.app import getSchoolToolApplication app = getSchoolToolApplication()  # hard to stub!17:53
povbot/svn/commits: This is implemented by registering getSchoolToolApplication as an adapter from None to ISchoolToolApplication.17:53
povbot/svn/commits: Someone who wants a small sweet task can do a global search & replace, plus fix all the unit tests.17:53
jintysrichter: from how I read the roadmap, 3.2 releases quite a while before 200617:53
povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5524:17:53
povbot/svn/commits: Make untie the application from the explanation activity.17:53
mgedminsrichter, schooltool.commendation unit tests still fail if you use 3.2 instead of trunk17:54
mgedminI think17:54
mgedminignas bugged me about them today17:54
mgedminwhat's "make untie" mean?17:55
ignasouch, my check in message generator still got some bugs left17:55
jintysrichter: but schooltool should always be released working with a released version of Zope 3 and 3.3 probably will not be in time for schooltool 200617:56
srichterright17:58
srichterwell, actually17:58
srichterthe final ST release wiill be in July/August17:58
srichterthen 3.3 shoudl be out17:58
jintyhas Zope3 got any track record of releasing on time?17:59
srichterno, but there is 100% committment18:02
jintylets see what happens with 3.2...18:03
jintybut aside from that, it presents a problem when dealing with Debian/Ubuntu packages if we skip a zope version.18:04
jintyFor ubuntu it means they have to decide: stay with zope3.2 and keep schooltool18:05
jintys/3.2/3.1/18:05
jintyor drop schooltool for a release and go with zope3.218:05
jintyor bring the old version of schooltool up to date18:06
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jintyparhaps it is possible to release some of our milestones with 3.2 and then switch to 3.3 later18:13
srichteryep18:14
jintybut that still presents the problem of being able to build schoolbell with 3.218:15
srichterhave you tried building the old SchoolBell release with 3.2?18:17
srichterdoes it really fail?18:17
ignassrichter, yes18:17
ignasoh18:17
ignasno18:17
ignasnot that18:18
ignasmisread the question, sorry18:18
jintysrichter: will try it now.18:19
povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5525:18:32
povbot/svn/commits: Commented out both failing tests as they are failing on Zope3.2.18:32
jintysrichter: it fails with18:33
jinty    from zope.app.server.http import http18:33
jintyImportError: No module named http18:33
srichterwhere is that?18:34
srichtermmh, not so good BBB18:35
srichterthat should be fixed in Zope 3 I think18:35
jintyactually this would be an interesting test of Z3's compatibility:)18:36
srichteryep18:37
jintyI wonder if there could be a buildbot testing old schooltool versions against new zope versions...18:38
ignastecnically we could do that, but you should ask Marius whether he is going to do it18:47
povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5526:19:26
povbot/svn/commits: Integrated attendance sparkline into real time attendance form.19:26
povbot/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5527:20:18
povbot/svn/commits: Real time attendance form legend (draft).20:18
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5528:23:15
povbot/svn/commits: Handling tardies in the realtime attendance form.23:15
povbot/svn/commits: The code still needs a bit of refactoring, tomorrow.  And a functional test!23:15
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povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5529:23:22
povbot/svn/commits: Removed accept/reject methods from IAbsenceExplanation.  Added methods acceptExplanation/rejectExplanation to IAttendanceRecord.23:23
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