IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2005-12-13

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povbot`/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5438:02:31
povbot`/svn/commits: Hold on to your sandboxes, clean out your buildbots. We are now tracking the Zope 3.2 branch.02:31
tiredbonesCan someone tell me what a buildbot is? Google is no help.02:34
jintyheres a good description: http://directory.fsf.org/All_Packages_in_Directory/BuildBot.html02:44
tiredbonesthanks02:46
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tiredbonesI'm currently reading the abstraction for BuildBot. When I see a message from povbot on this IRC channel, does that mean a build is going-on or that the build has taken place?15:20
mgedmintiredbones, povbot tells you about every commit15:33
mgedminit is not related to povbot15:33
mgedminerr, it is not related to buildbot15:33
mgedminhowever buildbot starts building after every checkin too15:33
mgedminso you could say povbot announcements mean the build is about to start15:33
mgedminthere once was 'povbuildbot'15:34
mgedminbut our office lost internet connection for some time15:34
mgedminand buildbot never reconnected15:34
mgedminbuildbot's irc plugin is silly15:34
mgedminit can't even announce build failures unless it is explicitly asked each time15:35
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* mgedmin needs to go to the uni15:35
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povbot`/svn/commits: * vidas committed revision 5439:16:27
povbot`/svn/commits: Removed TestRequestWithPrincipal and stubs - we rely on ViewPreferences providing default values even without principal or application.16:27
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povbot`/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5440:17:11
povbot`/svn/commits: Spelling fixes.17:11
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ignasth1a, ayt21:02
th1aYes.21:02
th1aWhat's up?21:02
ignashttp://www.schooltool.org/bounties/ - 40421:02
th1aWhat's sending you there?21:03
ignasthough the link is in http://www.markshuttleworth.com/bounty.html21:03
th1aAh.21:03
th1aOK.  Thanks.21:03
th1asrichter: ayt?21:10
th1aOK, I've got a question.21:11
th1aWe need Persons to implement the IHaveEvaluations marker interface, so I can start21:12
th1aattaching them to evaluations.21:12
th1aBut I don't think I'm supposed to just add this to configure.zcml for person21:12
th1aBecause SchoolBell won't use evaluations.21:13
th1aSo where do I put this declaration?21:13
th1aIn requirement/configure.zcml?21:13
th1aCan I declare what interfaces a content class implements in to separate .zcml files?21:14
th1aI tried this last night and it didn't seem to work.21:15
srichterI think it will soon be time to create a special ZCML hierarchy for this sort of problem21:20
th1aHm?21:20
srichterI guess we really want a person_evaluation.zcml in schooltool21:21
th1aIn which package?21:21
srichterschooltool21:22
srichter(I am discussing the issue with Jim right now privately)21:22
th1aOn one hand it seems reasonable to say that SchoolTool and SchoolBell are different configurations, so the fact that you need to make some changes to the configuration files is not that shocking.21:23
th1aThat you might have to remove some lines of ZCML from SchoolBell.21:24
srichterno, we defionitely do not want this21:24
srichterok, Jim did not have an answer21:25
srichterso let's try this approach:21:25
srichtercreate a person_requirement.zcml file in the schooltool package21:25
srichterhaving the following conditions21:25
srichter<configure zcml:condition="package schooltool.person" zcml:condition="package schooltool.requirement">21:26
srichter   ...21:26
srichter</configure>21:26
th1aAre we going to end up with a million of these?21:26
srichternot a million, but a few21:27
th1aWhat goes in the "...?"21:27
srichterthe class statement21:27
th1aWith just the one implements statement?21:28
srichteryep21:28
th1afor IHaveEvaluations.21:28
th1aShouldn't it be IHaveEvaluation?21:28
th1aWe use the singular usually.21:28
srichterno, because the adapter returns the evaluations container, not a single evaluation21:29
th1aOK.21:29
srichterI just have to think about how we are going to hook those ZCML files into the call stack21:36
th1aRight.  How is this thing going to be found?21:37
th1aYou can't just arbitrarily add .zcml files and expect them to work, can you?21:38
srichterno, you have to link them in21:39
srichterI am still thinking about that21:39
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ignassrichter, ayt ?21:55
th1a\21:55
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th1ajinty:  Did you get that email I sent you?22:03
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