| jinty | srichter: just in case you don't know zope.app.container.constraints imports zope.dottedname which isn't a zpkg dependency. (breaks the schooltool nightly tarball) | 00:03 |
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| srichter | ok, zope.dottedname is very new | 00:05 |
| srichter | jinty: so I have to add zope.dottedname to DEPENDENCIES.cfg of z.a.container, right? | 00:06 |
| jinty | that's what I would have suggested. But I don't know if you wanted to release it or not | 00:07 |
| srichter | well, now that it is a dependency we have to release | 00:08 |
| srichter | it | 00:08 |
| srichter | but it is a good module anyways | 00:08 |
| * jinty is not sure how that decision gets made | 00:08 | |
| srichter | well, if it appears as a dependency of a package already released, it is released | 00:09 |
| srichter | otherwise, the decision must be discussed and it is a bit harder | 00:09 |
| jinty | sure, prehaps I'll do it myself next time | 00:11 |
| srichter | did you get access? | 00:14 |
| jinty | just sent the mail | 00:15 |
| jinty | cc'ed you... | 00:16 |
| srichter | yeah, I saw that | 00:16 |
| srichter | I thought he might have already set you up | 00:16 |
| srichter | since he is online right now | 00:16 |
| * jinty is amazed by the non-buearocracy;) | 00:17 | |
| srichter | he he | 00:18 |
| srichter | ok, the fix is in | 00:18 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5156: | 00:36 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: Add schooltool.sampledata to the dependencies. it is used in configure.zcml. | 00:36 |
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| tamere | Hi there. I'm experimenting with SchoolTool 0.11.1 and I've created stupid datas in the school's timetable. How can I remove these ? | 11:52 |
| ignas | you can't ... | 11:59 |
| tamere | great ! | 11:59 |
| tamere | :-) | 11:59 |
| ignas | well - the idea is - that removing a School Timetable breaks all timetables based on it | 12:00 |
| tamere | yes, but I've got only one for now | 12:00 |
| ignas | and in usual environment that would be way too destructive | 12:00 |
| ignas | and in your case ... | 12:01 |
| ignas | you might want to remove the Data.fs | 12:01 |
| tamere | isn't there an UNDO just like in Zope ? | 12:01 |
| ignas | well - theoretically one can UNDO | 12:03 |
| ignas | though it is very difficult ... | 12:03 |
| ignas | i kind of find such state of things awkward myself ... | 12:04 |
| tamere | I don't know Zope 3 yet, isn't there a way to access to the management interface (if there's any) ? | 12:04 |
| ignas | i don't think you can access Zope3 management views in ST | 12:05 |
| ignas | they are disabled IIRC | 12:05 |
| tamere | ok | 12:05 |
| tamere | thanks for your help | 12:05 |
| ignas | np | 12:05 |
| tamere | by chance do you know how it is possible to grab users/groups from an LDAP server from within ST without having to modify the code ? | 12:06 |
| ignas | we do not support that yet | 12:06 |
| ignas | but Zope3 has LDAP support | 12:06 |
| ignas | so i guess LDAP support for ST is in the future plans | 12:06 |
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| tamere | is there a way to integrate ST into an existing Zope2.7+Plone2 website ? | 12:10 |
| tamere | (sorry for my stupid questions, I'm discovering ST) | 12:10 |
| mgedmin | tamere, I think the closest you can get is an Apache rewrite rule | 12:12 |
| tamere | ok | 12:12 |
| tamere | mgedmin: do you think this could be done by using the "XML web services interface" (described there http://www.schooltool.org/about/architecture) ? | 12:15 |
| mgedmin | you could do it, but I fail to see the point | 12:15 |
| mgedmin | i.e. reimplementing the complete SchoolTool UI in Plone that interacts with the backend through our RESTive interface | 12:16 |
| mgedmin | if, otoh, you have an existing Plone site, and need to integrate some data with ST, then that sounds good | 12:16 |
| tamere | the point would be to interface with our LDAP users/groups used in our Plone site | 12:16 |
| tamere | not managing ST from a plone site | 12:17 |
| ignas | so you would have same usernames/passwords in ST as in your plone site ? | 12:18 |
| tamere | yes | 12:18 |
| mgedmin | tamere, do you also want person objects in SchoolTool for each LDAP username? | 12:19 |
| mgedmin | (i.e. calendars for all users, etc)? | 12:19 |
| tamere | and also we would like to perhaps change calendar permissions in ST for a particular user whenever he logs in for the first time | 12:19 |
| tamere | mgedmin: yes, although some users on our Plone site don't come from LDAP but need a calendar as well, and not all users from LDAP have a Plone account | 12:20 |
| tamere | (and these ones don't have a calendar either) | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | sounds tricky | 12:21 |
| tamere | ouch, first issue... | 12:21 |
| tamere | I've got a traceback | 12:21 |
| tamere | what is interesting is that the paths are incorrect | 12:22 |
| mgedmin | paste.plone.org or issues.schooltool.org, please | 12:22 |
| mgedmin | the paths come from .pyc files | 12:22 |
| mgedmin | they refer to paths of modules when they were compiled | 12:22 |
| tamere | ST was build in /tmp/schooltool-0.11.1 but then moved into /var/lib/schooltool | 12:22 |
| tamere | yes | 12:22 |
| tamere | ok | 12:22 |
| tamere | so no pb | 12:22 |
| tamere | mgedmin: ok I've pasted the issue on issues.schooltool.org | 12:29 |
| tamere | not sure what I was doing | 12:29 |
| tamere | when it appeared | 12:29 |
| tamere | but it happens each time I click on School Timetables now | 12:30 |
| ignas | did you manage to delete a school timetable somehow ? :) | 12:32 |
| tamere | yes :-) | 12:32 |
| tamere | maybe but I don't know how I did | 12:32 |
| ignas | :) | 12:33 |
| ignas | well - if you would write steps to reproduce it ;) | 12:34 |
| ignas | though - the problem is that we do not support removal of School Timetables especially - default School Timetables | 12:34 |
| ignas | because the case when someone removes timetable was not forseen - we do not have the mechanics that select a new default timetable i guess | 12:35 |
| tamere | I tried to delete the hours while editing the default timetable | 12:36 |
| tamere | but this wasn't accepted | 12:36 |
| tamere | so I retried several times :-) | 12:36 |
| tamere | (because I'm stupid) | 12:36 |
| tamere | but this was never accepted | 12:37 |
| ignas | ok | 12:37 |
| tamere | so I don't know what happened | 12:37 |
| ignas | i am wrong :) | 12:37 |
| tamere | hmm, this doesn't happen when I'm logged in as manager | 12:38 |
| tamere | maybe a permission problem | 12:38 |
| ignas | oh | 12:39 |
| tamere | bbl | 12:43 |
| mgedmin | tamere, what was the error message? | 12:47 |
| mgedmin | you only attached the traceback | 12:47 |
| mgedmin | in retrospect, I'm beginning think that duplicating the error at the end of the traceback would be a good idea | 12:48 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Add a little random documentation. | 14:20 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Update zope after the checkout so the nightly tarball is created with the latest zope revision. | 14:24 |
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| alga | hi | 15:26 |
| alga | anybody out there? | 15:26 |
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| Welsh | welsh here | 15:44 |
| Welsh | jinty isn't around??? | 15:44 |
| Welsh | I'll be checking in today 4pm during the regular developer mtgs. | 15:45 |
| Welsh | Paul Carduner plans to be available as well. | 15:45 |
| Welsh | We're seeking to get latest bug fixes into the package. | 15:45 |
| Welsh | Talk to you guys then. | 15:46 |
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| pingswept | Hi. I've just been trying to get SchoolBell to appear on port 80 rather than 7180 using mod_rewrite. I get a 403 Forbidden error in response. From looking at packets, it looks like mod_rewrite isn't actually working. I'm using Ubuntu Breezy. | 16:14 |
| pingswept | Any suggestions? I have mod_rewrite enabled (I think), and I have added the rewrite rule from the Schooltool README to my sites-available directory. | 16:16 |
| pingswept | I changed the redirect port to 7180 since I'm using SchoolBell and not Schooltool. | 16:17 |
| pingswept | Actually, maybe mod_rewrite is working. The client never receives any mention that it is being redirected to 7180, but that's probably OK. | 16:23 |
| pingswept | If I specify port 7180 in the URL, it works fine, so I'm puzzled by the permissions error. | 16:24 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: A full name pseudo-random generator, with a list of 300-odd first names and last names. | 16:59 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Fixed an erroneous docstring. | 17:17 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Made schooltool.person.tests a package. | 18:20 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: Sample data plugins that generate persons. | 18:23 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5164: | 20:19 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Added missing namespace declaration. | 20:19 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: A first try for a nightly build setup for Zope3 tarballs and a version number test for schooltool. | 20:39 |
| ignas | th1a, ping | 20:50 |
| th1a | hi | 20:53 |
| ignas | you sent us 1 excel file philip wants to import into schooltool | 20:55 |
| ignas | (REST exapmles story) | 20:55 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5166: | 20:55 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Ressurected restclient (former guiclient) Removed deprecated functionality. Updated methods that are still relevant. | 20:55 |
| ignas | though i know that there is another XSL/CSV somewhere ... | 20:55 |
| ignas | because the story mentions two examles | 20:55 |
| th1a | What's the other one? | 20:56 |
| ignas | i don't know | 20:56 |
| ignas | * import groups and members from Philip Schroeder's example (1d) | 20:56 |
| ignas | * import courses and sections from Philip Schroeder's example (1d) | 20:56 |
| ignas | and you sent us "H-Stundenplan WS04-#79267D.xls" | 21:00 |
| ignas | it contains courses, sections, teachers | 21:00 |
| ignas | but no groups nor members | 21:00 |
| th1a | OK... trying to figure out what I was talking about... | 21:01 |
| ignas | oh | 21:02 |
| ignas | i missed the "(get an example from Phillip)" | 21:02 |
| ignas | part ;) | 21:02 |
| th1a | Ah. | 21:03 |
| th1a | Well, that might have been my job anyhow. | 21:03 |
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| th1a | Regardless, why don't you send him an email. | 21:04 |
| ignas | that was my plan | 21:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 21:04 |
| ignas | we both are talking about Philipp Shroeder aren't we ? | 21:05 |
| ignas | (just to be sure ;) | 21:05 |
| th1a | Yep. | 21:05 |
| ignas | btw - is there a way of attaching files to the proposal in the staging.schooltool.org ? because i think it would be nice if stories in the proposal had all associated information on the website ... | 21:12 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5167: | 21:32 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Plugin for resource sample data. | 21:32 |
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| th1a | ignas: it appears that you can add files to proposals. | 21:34 |
| th1a | I mean, it is possible. | 21:34 |
| th1a | We need to get everyone's permissions set. | 21:34 |
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| hollow_ | any plans for a FreeBSD port? | 21:52 |
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| Welsh | hello | 22:59 |
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| Welsh | jinty: you around? | 23:03 |
| Welsh | jinty: around yet? | 23:19 |
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| Welsh | jinty: carduner making two bug fixes to cando; will email you requesting incorporation into the package. | 23:46 |
| Welsh | he should be done within an hour or two | 23:46 |
| th1a | Whoops. Did everyone forget the meeting (including me)? | 23:46 |
| Welsh | No real meeting planned for today... just bug fixes. | 23:47 |
| Welsh | Elkner back in town tomorrow. | 23:47 |
| Welsh | Carduner focusing on clean-up issues until second Tuesday of November, when we all hope to reconvene | 23:48 |
| Welsh | Welsh focusing on using SchoolTool/CanDo, and reporting any bugs as he goes. | 23:48 |
| Welsh | Bringing other teachers along with me. | 23:48 |
| th1a | Cool. | 23:49 |
| Welsh | I understand there will be SchoolTool refactoring/cleanup/fixing going on as well. | 23:50 |
| Welsh | Have a great day, folks! Until we irc again... | 23:51 |
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