IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2005-10-04

jintysrichter: just in case you don't know imports zope.dottedname which isn't a zpkg dependency. (breaks the schooltool nightly tarball)00:03
srichterok, zope.dottedname is very new00:05
srichterjinty: so I have to add zope.dottedname to DEPENDENCIES.cfg of z.a.container, right?00:06
jintythat's what I would have suggested. But I don't know if you wanted to release it or not00:07
srichterwell, now that it is a dependency we have to release00:08
srichterbut it is a good module anyways00:08
* jinty is not sure how that decision gets made00:08
srichterwell, if it appears as a dependency of a package already released, it is released00:09
srichterotherwise, the decision must be discussed and it is a bit harder00:09
jintysure, prehaps I'll do it myself next time00:11
srichterdid you get access?00:14
jintyjust sent the mail00:15
jintycc'ed you...00:16
srichteryeah, I saw that00:16
srichterI thought he might have already set you up00:16
srichtersince he is online right now00:16
* jinty is amazed by the non-buearocracy;)00:17
srichterhe he00:18
srichterok, the fix is in00:18
povbot`/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5156:00:36
povbot`/svn/commits: Add schooltool.sampledata to the dependencies. it is used in configure.zcml.00:36
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tamereHi there. I'm experimenting with SchoolTool 0.11.1 and I've created stupid datas in the school's timetable. How can I remove these ?11:52
ignasyou can't ...11:59
tameregreat !11:59
ignaswell - the idea is - that removing a School Timetable breaks all timetables based on it12:00
tamereyes, but I've got only one for now12:00
ignasand in usual environment that would be way too destructive12:00
ignasand in your case ...12:01
ignasyou might want to remove the Data.fs12:01
tamereisn't there an UNDO just like in Zope ?12:01
ignaswell - theoretically one can UNDO12:03
ignasthough it is very difficult ...12:03
ignasi kind of find such state of things awkward myself ...12:04
tamereI don't know Zope 3 yet, isn't there a way to access to the management interface  (if there's any) ?12:04
ignasi don't think you can access Zope3 management views in ST12:05
ignasthey are disabled IIRC12:05
tamerethanks for your help12:05
tamereby chance do you know how it is possible to grab users/groups from an LDAP server from within ST without having to modify the code ?12:06
ignaswe do not support that yet12:06
ignasbut Zope3 has LDAP support12:06
ignasso i guess LDAP support for ST is in the future plans12:06
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tamereis there a way to integrate ST into an existing Zope2.7+Plone2 website ?12:10
tamere(sorry for my stupid questions, I'm discovering ST)12:10
mgedmintamere, I think the closest you can get is an Apache rewrite rule12:12
tameremgedmin: do you think this could be done by using the "XML web services interface" (described there ?12:15
mgedminyou could do it, but I fail to see the point12:15
mgedmini.e. reimplementing the complete SchoolTool UI in Plone that interacts with the backend through our RESTive interface12:16
mgedminif, otoh, you have an existing Plone site, and need to integrate some data with ST, then that sounds good12:16
tamerethe point would be to interface with our LDAP users/groups used in our Plone site12:16
tamerenot managing ST from a plone site12:17
ignasso you would have same usernames/passwords in ST as in  your plone site ?12:18
mgedmintamere, do you also want person objects in SchoolTool for each LDAP username?12:19
mgedmin(i.e. calendars for all users, etc)?12:19
tamereand also we would like to perhaps change calendar permissions in ST for a particular user whenever he logs in for the first time12:19
tameremgedmin: yes, although some users on our Plone site don't come from LDAP but need a calendar as well, and not all users from LDAP have a Plone account12:20
tamere(and these ones don't have a calendar either)12:20
mgedminsounds tricky12:21
tamereouch, first issue...12:21
tamereI've got a traceback12:21
tamerewhat is interesting is that the paths are incorrect12:22 or, please12:22
mgedminthe paths come from .pyc files12:22
mgedminthey refer to paths of modules when they were compiled12:22
tamereST was build in /tmp/schooltool-0.11.1 but then moved into /var/lib/schooltool12:22
tamereso no pb12:22
tameremgedmin: ok I've pasted the issue on issues.schooltool.org12:29
tamerenot sure what I was doing12:29
tamerewhen it appeared12:29
tamerebut it happens each time I click on School Timetables now12:30
ignasdid you manage to delete a school timetable somehow ? :)12:32
tamereyes :-)12:32
tameremaybe but I don't know how I did12:32
ignaswell - if you would write steps to reproduce it ;)12:34
ignasthough - the problem is that we do not support removal of School Timetables especially - default School Timetables12:34
ignasbecause the case when someone removes timetable was not forseen - we do not have the mechanics that select a new default timetable i guess12:35
tamereI tried to delete the hours while editing the default timetable12:36
tamerebut this wasn't accepted12:36
tamereso I retried several times :-)12:36
tamere(because I'm stupid)12:36
tamerebut this was never accepted12:37
tamereso I don't know what happened12:37
ignasi am wrong :)12:37
tamerehmm, this doesn't happen when I'm logged in as manager12:38
tameremaybe a permission problem12:38
mgedmintamere, what was the error message?12:47
mgedminyou only attached the traceback12:47
mgedminin retrospect, I'm beginning think that duplicating the error at the end of the traceback would be a good idea12:48
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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5157:14:19
povbot/svn/commits: Add a little random documentation.14:20
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5158:14:24
povbot/svn/commits: Update zope after the checkout so the nightly tarball is created with the latest zope revision.14:24
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algaanybody out there?15:26
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Welshwelsh here15:44
Welshjinty isn't around???15:44
WelshI'll be checking in today 4pm during the regular developer mtgs.15:45
WelshPaul Carduner plans to be available as well.15:45
WelshWe're seeking to get latest bug fixes into the package.15:45
WelshTalk to you guys then.15:46
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pingsweptHi. I've just been trying to get SchoolBell to appear on port 80 rather than 7180 using mod_rewrite. I get a 403 Forbidden error in response. From looking at packets, it looks like mod_rewrite isn't actually working. I'm using Ubuntu Breezy.16:14
pingsweptAny suggestions? I have mod_rewrite enabled (I think), and I have added the rewrite rule from the Schooltool README to my sites-available directory.16:16
pingsweptI changed the redirect port to 7180 since I'm using SchoolBell and not Schooltool.16:17
pingsweptActually, maybe mod_rewrite is working. The client never receives any mention that it is being redirected to 7180, but that's probably OK.16:23
pingsweptIf I specify port 7180 in the URL, it works fine, so I'm puzzled by the permissions error.16:24
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5159:16:59
povbot/svn/commits: A full name pseudo-random generator, with a list of 300-odd first names and last names.16:59
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5160:17:17
povbot/svn/commits: Fixed an erroneous docstring.17:17
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5161:18:20
povbot/svn/commits: Made schooltool.person.tests a package.18:20
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5162:18:23
povbot/svn/commits: Sample data plugins that generate persons.18:23
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5163:18:43
povbot/svn/commits: Converted schooltool.resource.tests into a package.18:43
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povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5164:20:19
povbot/svn/commits: Added missing namespace declaration.20:19
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 5165:20:39
povbot/svn/commits: A first try for a nightly build setup for Zope3 tarballs and a version number test for schooltool.20:39
ignasth1a, ping20:50
ignasyou sent us 1 excel file philip wants to import into schooltool20:55
ignas(REST exapmles story)20:55
povbot/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 5166:20:55
povbot/svn/commits: Ressurected restclient (former guiclient) Removed deprecated functionality.  Updated methods that are still relevant.20:55
ignasthough i know that there is another XSL/CSV somewhere ...20:55
ignasbecause the story mentions two examles20:55
th1aWhat's the other one?20:56
ignasi don't know20:56
ignas    * import groups and members from Philip Schroeder's example (1d)20:56
ignas    * import courses and sections from Philip Schroeder's example (1d)20:56
ignasand you sent us "H-Stundenplan WS04-#79267D.xls"21:00
ignasit contains courses, sections, teachers21:00
ignasbut no groups nor members21:00
th1aOK... trying to figure out what I was talking about...21:01
ignasi missed the "(get an example from Phillip)"21:02
ignaspart ;)21:02
th1aWell, that might have been my job anyhow.21:03
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th1aRegardless, why don't you send him an email.21:04
ignasthat was my plan21:04
ignaswe both are talking about Philipp Shroeder aren't we ?21:05
ignas(just to be sure ;)21:05
ignasbtw - is there a way of attaching files to the proposal in the ? because i think it would be nice if stories in the proposal had all associated information on the website ...21:12
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 5167:21:32
povbot/svn/commits: Plugin for resource sample data.21:32
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th1aignas:  it appears that you can add files to proposals.21:34
th1aI mean, it is possible.21:34
th1aWe need to get everyone's permissions set.21:34
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hollow_any plans for a FreeBSD port?21:52
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Welshjinty: you around?23:03
Welshjinty: around yet?23:19
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Welshjinty:  carduner making two bug fixes to cando; will email you requesting incorporation into the package.23:46
Welshhe should be done within an hour or two23:46
th1aWhoops.  Did everyone forget the meeting (including me)?23:46
WelshNo real meeting planned for today... just bug fixes.23:47
WelshElkner back in town tomorrow.23:47
WelshCarduner focusing on clean-up issues until second Tuesday of November, when we all hope to reconvene23:48
WelshWelsh focusing on using SchoolTool/CanDo, and reporting any bugs as he goes.23:48
WelshBringing other teachers along with me.23:48
WelshI understand there will be SchoolTool refactoring/cleanup/fixing going on as well.23:50
WelshHave a great day, folks!  Until we irc again...23:51
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