IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2005-07-13

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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4157:14:32
povbot/svn/commits: Updated SchoolTool test to cope with changes in SchoolBell.14:32
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4158:14:43
povbot/svn/commits: Added support for unicode resource names.14:43
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4159:15:08
povbot/svn/commits: Started implementing soft dependency on ReportLab.  Changed font filenames to be compatible with Windows.15:08
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erchachenew server for schooltool comes tomorrow!15:25
erchachenew server for schooltool comes tomorrow!15:26
erchachesun fire v20 2 gb memory i will wait15:27
erchachegood platform to see a large schooltool server :D15:27
th1aWe'll see what it can do.15:28
erchachenew powerbook15:29
erchachenew server for schooltol15:29
erchachenew server for plone15:30
erchache6300 €15:30
erchache10000 $15:30
th1aNice to have a budget.15:30
erchacheand the most important.....server arent payed by my wallet ;D15:31
th1aI wouldn't imagine you were donating servers to your school.15:31
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erchacheuhmmm im not bill gates ;D15:35
erchachetoo too long i go with my little budget.....i dont have money but i have time and knowledge ;)15:36
algaerchache: if you are serious about running schooltool for many users,15:40
algabe sure to test the performance with that many users15:40
algaand optimize what needs to be optimized15:40
erchacheheheheh i have a mediawiki software with 60000 diary visits15:40
algaor get th1a to get us do that ;-)15:40
erchachei can see performance too clearly :D15:41
algaerchache: if ST hogs all your CPU, you will be f*d anyway :-)15:41
th1aI don't want to prematurely optimize.15:41
algath1a: sure15:41
th1aActually, what we do need is new sample school generators.15:41
algabut if erchache is deploying a large installation, it is just the time to optimize15:41
algath1a: straightforward via REST15:42
th1aI'm going to listen to a talk now...15:42
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algaerchache: mediawiki is optimized by experts to sustain heavy usage15:44
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algaschooltool us not :-)15:44
erchache_awayalga: i have a large system and i was working on it for 2 years15:44
erchache_awayhas many experiencie admin LAMP systems :D15:44
algaST is not LAMP15:45
algathat's the problem :-)15:45
algaST is Python15:45
algaand Python Is Slow (TM)15:45
erchache_awayi know i know15:46
erchache_awaywell im going to work15:46
erchache_awaysee later15:46
gintasit's not that Python is slow15:47
gintaswe have not profiled it yet15:47
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tvonIn terms of a school-wide calendar, we previously used the Managers calendar but I'm wondering if we should make it selectable16:32
tvoneg, in some preferences view (the same place the 'school name' is going) we could have a list of users with manager-type roles and allow an admin to pick which to use as the school-wide calendar16:32
tvonor we could just use the manager calendar but if we do that we need to think about that in the 'manager can delete own account' discussion16:33
tvonI'm personally not wild about using the managers calendar because it mixes this 'root' type account (privledged and private) with very public information16:34
mgedminfor (ab)using manager's calendar as a school-wide calendar16:39
ignastvon, shouldn't school-wide calendar go into like schooltoolapp not some arbitary user ?16:39
tvonmgedmin: agreed16:40
tvonignas: thats the other option16:40
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4160:18:15
povbot/svn/commits: Made reportlab a soft dependency.  Added some missing tests.18:15
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erchacheanybody has a mac os x?18:42
erchachehow i need better....python with or without x11?18:43
mgedminwhat does python have to do with x11?18:43
erchachei dont know :/18:43
erchachei have python 2.3.518:43
erchachebut i want to install 2.418:43
erchacheuhmm searching for previous type installed18:44
erchacheoopss i have lastest stable version :P18:45
erchachewell in this case im going to install zope x318:46
erchachefrom source18:46
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erchacheforget channel irc list18:47
erchachesee that18:54
erchachedabo a new database application ala dbase318:54
erchachea mix between mysql administrator and query browser with beauty interface18:55
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erchacheany problem to install schooltool on mac os x 10.4.2?18:59
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erchachenobody replies?19:01
mgedminnobody knows19:06
ignaswhat was the question ?19:06
mgedminth1a has a mac19:06
erchachei found python 2.4 for mac os x19:06
mgedminand so does Aiste19:06
erchacheokok i think i solve my problem....thanks :D19:07
mgedminalways glad to help :-)19:07
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erchachewell finish today!19:39
erchachetomorrow more....19:39
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4161:20:14
povbot/svn/commits: A view for modifying periods on special days.  Not finished yet, and not hooked up.20:14
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pcarduneth1a ayt?21:11
pcardunecan later zcml configuration override earlier configuration?21:12
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4162:21:15
povbot/svn/commits: Added handling for some error conditions.21:15
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pcarduneit makes sense to reuse schoolbell URIObjects (i'm not sure whether this is a statement or a question)21:25
pcarduneso, since an Evaluator is a person, then I shouldn't bother defining URIEvaluator, and should just use URIPerson?21:28
pcardunenvm, it doesn't seem that URIPerson exists at all21:37
pcarduneWhy are RelationshipSchema defined in your code, if they aren't used anywhere? (or am i understanding them incorrectly?)21:46
tvonpcardune: see
tvonthere is some usage in there22:14
tvonunless I am misunderstanding your question22:15
pcardunewell, the only time you create a Membership object (which is the relationship schema) is in the tests22:16
pcardunethat seems pretty useless to me22:18
pcarduneor extraneous might be the proper word22:19
tvonYou're right, I don't actually see it being used.. ask someone from POV when they pop in22:24
tvonignas or alga perhaps, or mgedmin tomorrow22:25
pcarduneI was also wondering how RelationshipProperties worked exactly... or maybe the specifics of adaptation22:26
pcardunei have two classes, which each have attributes which are relationship properties meant to join the two classes, when I call the add method of the relationship property of one class, how does it know which is the corresponding attribute from the other class22:27
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tvonI don't know the details, I suspect there is some zcml voodoo going on somewhere that looks for attributes that match a relationship set23:01
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4163:23:07
povbot/svn/commits: More error checking in the Special Day form.23:07
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4164:23:10
povbot/svn/commits: Small adjustment.23:10
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povbot/svn/commits: Docstring.23:16
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SteveA_th1a: there's a typo in the freedb entry.  DOuble leading caps.23:47
th1aSteveA:  I see.  Any idea of when we might get that linode server up?23:48

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