IRC log of #schooltool for Friday, 2005-06-10

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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4074:10:26
povbot/svn/commits: Commit patch for issue 242, thanks tvon.10:26
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4075:10:44
povbot/svn/commits: Backport 4055 and 4066 for issues 274 and 275 respectively.10:44
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4076:12:36
povbot/svn/commits: Port get-rosetta-translations from schoolbell.12:36
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macarthyHi all14:02
macarthyNewbie question14:02
macarthyactually scrap that, sorted14:06
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bska|mobileanyone around who has access to internet explorer?15:25
* bska|mobile can't wait for IE 7 to be released and create a whole new class of CSS bugs15:26
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_maharajai've got ie in vmware15:42
bska|mobile_maharaja: I'm trying to verify the fix for
bska|mobilea rendering glitch in IE for calendar month and year views15:46
bska|mobileif you have a chance to test those pages based on svn trunk15:46
bska|mobileI'd love to know if they work for you15:47
_maharajamhm - i guess i have to checkout a new version15:55
_maharajacause i've modified my local rep15:55
bska|mobilethat's ok, if your busy someone will be around later with a clean copy15:58
_maharajanp - co in progress16:09
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* bska|mobile would like a way for the ftest runner to validate against onsgmls16:19
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4077:16:52
povbot/svn/commits: I18n fix.  I'm not sure how (if?) the previous version worked.16:52
povbot/svn/commits: This probably needs to be backported.16:52
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4078:16:53
povbot/svn/commits: Typo fix.16:53
mahawhat exactly shall i test16:58
bska|mobilemaha: I'm just trying to find out if the calendar browser and year views look right now17:00
bska|mobileand have the same font size17:00
bska|mobilecalendar month and year views I mean17:00
mahaso i shall compare the two views in ie, or ie to firefox?17:04
bska|mobilethey should all look the same17:05
bska|mobileor close enough that it can't be considered "wrong"17:05
mahathey more ore less look ok17:14
mahathere is still room for improvment thou17:15
bska|mobileare the font sizes on windows the same for month and year view?17:16
mahamhm - no17:17
mahanow you're mentioning it :)17:17
bska|mobileok, thanks17:18
mahaprettey fucked17:18
bska|mobilethen I'm not crazy17:18
mahagotta run17:18
bska|mobilethanks for the help17:18
bska|mobileth1a: read over some IRC backlog18:23
bska|mobileI don't think the Zope3 calendar tools "battle" is decided yet18:24
th1aYes, that is probably an exaggeration.18:24
bska|mobileyour right about the license issue though18:24
th1aEuroPython is probably a chance to deal with it, aside from the fact that I won't be there.18:24
* bska|mobile is targeting hula as the competition, not CPS18:25
th1aWell, it is a different market.18:25
* bska|mobile nods18:25
th1aWhen we met with Mark in November, he stated that he wanted our calendaring stuff to become the standard calendaring components for Zope 3.18:26
bska|mobileI'm not sure CPS SC is fully zope 3 ready18:26
th1aWhich seems like a nice idea, but I'm not ultimately sure WHY that is very important.18:26
bska|mobileI think its just "designed to be zope3 ready later"18:26
bska|mobilecould be wring though18:26
bska|mobileschoolbell is a very confusing name for a globally applicable component18:27
th1aBut probably we'd be better off merging and consolidating these efforts than crushing them.18:27
bska|mobilefrom a marketing standpoint18:27
th1aAh... don't even get started on that.18:27
* bska|mobile drops it18:27
bska|mobilesee the new hula screenshots?18:28
th1aThey are on a browser tab somewhere at this moment, but I haven't looked at them.18:28
* bska|mobile nods18:28
bska|mobilethey're sexy, but they're are meant for a very different audience than schooltool18:29
th1aActually, if we end up having jelkner's interns working on meeting planning, maybe we can steal their use cases.18:31
* bska|mobile nods18:35
th1aI kinda doubt that we can go toe to toe on features with Hula, since we have to move on to the rest of this project as soon as possible.18:41
th1abska|mobile:  How hard would it be to assign sections to multiple terms?18:42
bska|mobileoff the top of my head I'm not sure, but I thought it could be done now18:43
bska|mobilenot something I did explictly, just the way timetables work18:43
bska|mobilesection get assigneg to <termA>.<timetable> and <termB>.<timetable>18:44
bska|mobileyou have to do each one individually though18:44
th1aI'd like to make sure it works in 0.11, since many courses are yearlong in high schools, covering two terms.18:44
* bska|mobile goes to look18:44
bska|mobilewhen setting up a term, are you supposed to mark sunday/saturday as hollidays?18:47
bska|mobileth1a: setting up a section for 2 terms is pretty simple18:50
th1abska|mobile:  I believe you set up sun/sat as holidays.  Actually, they probably should be by default.18:51
bska|mobilethat's what I was thinking18:51
th1ath1a:  Can you do multiple terms with the current widget?18:51
th1aI'm talking to myself.18:52
bska|mobileyou have to do each term individually18:52
th1aCould we just add checkboxes or another multiple selection widget?18:52
bska|mobile2 things I just noticed:18:54
bska|mobile1) the person scheduling view uses the section title, which is generic (bug)18:54
bska|mobile2) in the person schedule you have to add the person to every occurence of the section18:55
th1anot sure what you mean by 218:55
bska|mobileif Mr Smiths section of History meets at 9am monday wednesday and friday, and you go to Johny's schedule view18:56
th1aOh, perhaps I have not looked at the person's schedule view at all.  Eek.18:56
bska|mobileyou have to add johny on monday, wednesday, and friday18:56
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4079:18:57
povbot/svn/commits: Ok, now I know why that i18n thing didn't break -- it wasn't working at all.18:57
bska|mobileand, I have a sneeky suspicion that there's no integration with scheduling a person for the section and actually adding them to the section18:57
povbot/svn/commits: This is not important but probably should be backported together with the recent few patches.18:57
th1aI think that view is completely broken, actually.18:58
bska|mobileoh it does18:59
th1aIt isn't showing the student's existing sections.18:59
bska|mobilethat's nice18:59
bska|mobileit doesn't work backwards18:59
bska|mobilewhen a student is added to a section, the section isn't added to the student's composite TT19:00
bska|mobilebut, when the section is added to the student TT the student is added to the section19:01
th1aHm... OK, I think I see.19:01
th1aIt is only half broken.19:01
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4080:19:01
povbot/svn/commits: Fixed an i18n bug similar to the one in SchoolTool.  This one would manifest itself when the system default encoding was not UTF-8 (ouch).  Needs to be backported.19:01
bska|mobilelack of communication between me and POV19:01
th1aMe too.19:02
th1aI kind of forgot about this form.19:02
bska|mobilecan I add redoing this form with a better UI, adding multi-term scheduling, and updating this form on section membership to our stories?19:04
bska|mobilethey're all related, section scheduling uses the same form19:04
th1aI was going to suggest that very thing.19:04
bska|mobileits not as problematic with sections though, since they're only true/false options19:04
th1aCan you give me an estimate on the completion date for 0.11, as well.19:06
th1aOtherwise, the stories look fine.19:08
bska|mobileI'm going to have to defer to tom a bit, I'm going to do as much as I can for the next 2 weeks, then I'm off to NZ for the wedding19:09
bska|mobilebut we just wrapped another project and our next outstanding one is still in the planning stage19:10
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th1abska|mobile:  If you guys could come up with a date by the Monday meeting, that would be cool.19:26
bska|mobileth1a: that will work19:27
bska|mobilewhat's the target?19:28
bska|mobilefor the RC19:28
* bska|mobile nods19:29
bska|mobileone thing I'd like to clarify in the stories is what should be done in schoolbell, what should be done in schooltool, and what should be done in both19:31
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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4081:20:23
povbot/svn/commits: Un-pin Zope and SchoolBell externals.20:23
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povbot/svn/commits: Missed a backslash.22:34
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