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| alga | mgedmin: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 00:09 |
| th1a | What are you trying to get it to do? | 00:09 |
| jinty | undo my last edit | 00:09 |
| th1a | Hm. Are you trying to use reStructured text? | 00:10 |
| jinty | just some halfway rational numbering scheme that doesn't look to bad. Whatever happened to good old latex. | 00:10 |
| jinty | yep | 00:10 |
| jinty | is that bad | 00:10 |
| th1a | It shouldn't be :-) But I haven't found it to work very well. | 00:11 |
| th1a | Using the WISYWIG html editor is much less frustrating. | 00:11 |
| th1a | alga: It's Marius's birthday? | 00:12 |
| bskahan | mgedmin: happy birthday! | 00:12 |
| jinty | aaagh! a web interface compared to vim? | 00:12 |
| th1a | Um... | 00:13 |
| th1a | Where is the document you're working on? | 00:13 |
| jinty | http://www.schooltool.org/bounties/timetabling/spec | 00:14 |
| jinty | mgedmin: Is it your birthday? or something else going on here? | 00:18 |
| th1a | jinty: Marius upgraded our Plone installation to try to get rid of the bug that has been crashing the site for the past six months. | 00:19 |
| th1a | That might have caused some problems with the "ATDocuments" like the one you're trying to edit? | 00:20 |
| * jinty thought so, but didn't want to make a fauxpas | 00:22 | |
| jinty | happy birthday - "If the error persists please contact the site maintainer." | 00:32 |
| th1a | :-) | 00:33 |
| th1a | I have to take that burden off Marius. | 00:33 |
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| th1a | mgedmin: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 00:36 |
| th1a | jinty: So you're trying to undo the last change? | 00:36 |
| th1a | Yep, that's an error alright. | 00:37 |
| jinty | I tried, then the server gave the error. Now, every time I look at the history, I get it again. The history worked before I tried to undo anything. | 00:38 |
| tvon | someones birthday? | 00:38 |
| tvon | mine was the 17th | 00:38 |
| th1a | tvon: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 00:38 |
| tvon | I noticed none of you got me anything. punks. | 00:38 |
| tvon | heh | 00:38 |
| tvon | th1a: thanks :) | 00:38 |
| jinty | tvon: do you have a web site I can use for a moment? | 00:39 |
| tvon | jinty: what do you mean? | 00:40 |
| tvon | to stick something online? | 00:40 |
| jinty | preferebly a plone site:) | 00:40 |
| tvon | what do you want to do to it? :) | 00:41 |
| th1a | jinty wants to see if his document breaks your site. | 00:41 |
| tvon | hah | 00:41 |
| tvon | I can quickly make you a plone instance and give you manager access to it | 00:41 |
| jinty | I would'nt want you to feel left out after I gave marius a present and not you | 00:41 |
| tvon | hah | 00:42 |
| * jinty thinks it isn't in the document, but in the document locking. | 00:44 | |
| tvon | http://etria.com:9080/sutherland | 00:44 |
| tvon | jinty: you get that or did you poof? | 00:50 |
| jinty | nope, re-structured text is not structured text. your plone site is safe from me | 00:50 |
| tvon | ah | 00:51 |
| tvon | atct is installable there, it has rest | 00:51 |
| * jinty thinks it is not worth the trouble, but is thankfull nevertheless. | 00:52 | |
| jinty | I really doubt the problem is with the document. | 00:52 |
| * tvon nods | 00:58 | |
| bskahan | hadn't occurred to me that I'd have to zero out the existing new_person.__links__ | 01:03 |
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| bskahan | nm, don't have to | 01:04 |
| jinty | th1a: can I commit an imaginary timetabler client? (with only docstrings) in src/timetabler? | 01:05 |
| jinty | as a basis for future discussion | 01:06 |
| th1a | It's ok with me. | 01:06 |
| jinty | anyone else? | 01:06 |
| mgedmin | src/ is in PYTHONPATH | 01:06 |
| jinty | ok, into a branch then? | 01:06 |
| jinty | s/branch/trunk/timetabler | 01:07 |
| mgedmin | I'm not sure | 01:08 |
| mgedmin | It's not a bad thing to put things into src/ | 01:08 |
| mgedmin | but maybe 'timetabler' is too generic | 01:08 |
| jinty | Im leaving the thinking of snazzy names to someone better at it | 01:08 |
| mgedmin | will it be tied into the schooltool release cycle? | 01:09 |
| mgedmin | I mean, how tied with schooltool will it be? | 01:09 |
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| jinty | it shouldn't even be released for a long time to come | 01:09 |
| mgedmin | in the past we have created a /demo for a related project (the schooltool demo server) | 01:09 |
| mgedmin | at the very top of the repository | 01:09 |
| th1a | I think that would be appropriate in this case. | 01:10 |
| jinty | It will use the guiclient modules | 01:10 |
| mgedmin | actually in /trunk, not at the *very* top | 01:10 |
| mgedmin | anyway, it's really easy to move things around with svn mv | 01:11 |
| mgedmin | just create /trunk/timetabler or something, if we find a better place, we'll move it | 01:11 |
| * mgedmin thinks that perhaps we should move the wxwidgets client into /trunk/wxschooltool | 01:12 | |
| mgedmin | I think it would be nice if /trunk/schooltool contained more-or-less the same things as a released source tarball | 01:12 |
| tvon | yeah | 01:12 |
| tvon | that kind of consistancy isnice | 01:12 |
| mgedmin | it's not very important, but nice | 01:13 |
| mgedmin | I'm not sure yet how the schooltool/schoolbell split affects things | 01:13 |
| tvon | though, wasn't the wxclient going to be used only as an example..for documentation? | 01:13 |
| mgedmin | yeah, if it will come in the tarball, it should stay in /trunk/schooltool/ | 01:13 |
| jinty | my vision is to tarballs, each containing one module | 01:14 |
| tvon | Do we have plans to create a fat client at some point in the future? | 01:14 |
| th1a | We don't have any vision of a comprehensive fat client. | 01:14 |
| * bskahan thinks a fat client for the gradebook may be needed | 01:14 | |
| th1a | The timetabling client may be a fat client. | 01:14 |
| bskahan | teachers grade offline | 01:14 |
| th1a | That's a whole ball of wax. | 01:15 |
| th1a | We might start thinking about that in a year. | 01:15 |
| th1a | Making it a fat network client doesn't do much good. | 01:15 |
| th1a | The gradebook needs to sync. | 01:15 |
| bskahan | yeah | 01:16 |
| th1a | Supporting gradebook clients is scary. | 01:16 |
| th1a | You're putting some of your most important data in the least reliable place. | 01:16 |
| th1a | I think we'll look for lower hanging fruit. | 01:17 |
| * jinty has a personal belief that the timetabling client doesn't have to be specific to schooltool | 01:23 | |
| th1a | That's the direction we've been driving. | 01:23 |
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| jinty | bskahan: till monday... | 01:41 |
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| stareye_ | hi | 19:36 |
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