IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2016-08-04

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th1ahi replaceafill.18:23
replaceafillhey th1a18:23
th1aWhat's up?18:23
replaceafillfinally finished the data entry status report18:23
th1aGreat.18:23
replaceafillwill try to keep the pace today and do some other18:24
th1aGreat.  Keep it rolling.18:24
th1aI'll work on the docs...18:24
replaceafillcool18:24
th1aactually, let me look at the questions.18:24
replaceafillok18:24
th1aYou use VIM?18:24
th1aDo you actually use docker in development?18:25
th1aJust VirtualBox in practice?18:25
th1aSelenium?18:25
th1aWe do have to update the development sandbox instructions, right?18:25
th1a(that can wait a few days)18:25
replaceafilli'm not sure of the state of the sandbox instructions18:26
th1aOK.18:26
th1aFine.18:26
replaceafilli remember we found an issue, but don't remember if we fixed it18:26
th1aDon't worry about it (yet).18:26
replaceafillok18:26
th1aShould I just try them?18:26
replaceafillyeah18:26
th1aOK.  Will do.18:27
th1aWhat about tools -- in terms of what you regularly use.18:28
replaceafilljust a sandbox to develop18:29
th1aVIM?18:30
th1aOr Emacs...18:30
th1aI don't remember!18:30
replaceafillthat's irrelevant i guess18:30
replaceafillfor ST development18:31
replaceafillwe should explain how to run the few/broken tests we have18:31
replaceafillchromedriver + chrome18:31
replaceafillthose are the worthy "tools" imho18:32
th1aOK.18:33
th1aExplanations can follow at a later date.18:33
replaceafillok18:33
th1aDo you put instances in VirtualBox?18:33
replaceafillfor debugging mostly18:34
th1aJust when you're developing, yes.18:34
th1aOK.18:34
replaceafillnot for adding new features18:34
th1aEssentially we just use ubuntu packaging where you might use docker, right?18:34
replaceafillyeah18:35
th1aok18:35
th1aAll right, that'll get me started.18:37
th1aOh,18:37
th1aso, adding methods to Pyret data types is handy.18:38
replaceafillah18:38
th1aAnd apparently running methods on self must count as recursion rather than mutability.18:38
replaceafillyour (+ 1 2) made me remember calc in college18:39
th1aYeah... that's why those languages aren't used much beyond college classes.18:39
replaceafilla friend of mine had a calculator that used that input18:40
th1aSo this is looking more straightforward now.18:40
th1aThis meaning my Pyret program.18:40
th1aJust took me a while to find that feature since it isn't in the tutorials.18:41
replaceafillpull request!18:41
replaceafill:)18:41
th1apull request?18:41
replaceafillto improve the docs18:41
replaceafilleven if it's hard for me to swallow it, i realize we're not snowflakes: http://www.daedtech.com/human-cost-tech-debt/18:42
th1aWell, it is based at Brown and I know some of the people leading it, so that may indeed happen.18:42
replaceafillgood18:43
replaceafillcontribute!18:43
th1aIt is hard for you not to accept that you might not be uniquely incompetent?18:43
replaceafillyeah18:43
replaceafillanyway...18:44
th1aBelieve it or not, it is not you.18:44
th1aOK, I'll let you go and work on OUR docs this afternoon.18:44
replaceafillok18:44
th1aThanks replaceafill.18:48
replaceafillthanks th1a18:48
th1aayt?20:45
th1areplaceafill?20:45
replaceafillyes20:46
th1aWhere is buildout.cfg?  Is it generated from something else?20:46
replaceafillyes20:47
replaceafillafter you run "make develop"20:47
replaceafillthat's the first step20:47
th1aOK.20:47
th1aWell, not in the docs.  ;-)20:48
replaceafill:/20:48
replaceafillth1a, why deactivate old devs?21:34
th1aJust cleaning up cruft.21:34
replaceafillwhy are they cruft?21:35
th1aWell, if they want to be on I'll put them back on.21:35
replaceafillok...21:35
replaceafillmaybe you could deactivate me too21:36
replaceafill:)21:36
th1aEventually...21:36
replaceafilli don't want to be on anymore...21:36
replaceafill:)21:36
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