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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 21:42 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 21:42 |
| th1a | How was your appointment? | 21:42 |
| replaceafill | i've gained 2 pounds :S | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | need more walking | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | pressure is stable and normal | 21:43 |
| th1a | That's good. | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | will keep using the same medication | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | good catch by Piyali | 21:44 |
| replaceafill | i bet the attendance report is out of date too | 21:44 |
| th1a | What's up with the demo passwords? | 21:45 |
| replaceafill | a sec | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | it's dummy data | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | the password is 'pwd' | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | but they're just dbs created with selenium | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | i copied the demo dbs to evolve them locally | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | (so i could pdb the evolves) | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | then i ran a few selenium ide tests | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | and by mistake i uploaded the wrong Data.fs's to each demo instance | 21:48 |
| th1a | OK. | 21:48 |
| th1a | I was going to ask you yesterday if you wanted me to test those... | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | i'll go get something to eat and work on it | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | well... | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | imho you should have been testing all of this since a long time :) | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | but meh | 21:48 |
| th1a | To be clear, I'm more hesitant to ask because it will take you time than the time it will take me. | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | i know | 21:49 |
| th1a | I guess I should just start erring on the side of testing even when it does not seem necessary. | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | i think you should start documenting things | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | that'd be a good test | 21:50 |
| th1a | Well, again, I can't document them until you type what I'm supposed to be doing first. | 21:50 |
| th1a | But, I guess we just have to start doing that now that you're not franticly chasing deadlines. | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | what do you mean? | 21:51 |
| th1a | I mean, for me to even see if the demo was working would require you telling me how to log in, were to go, what it is supposed to be doing. | 21:52 |
| th1a | I mean, most of that is on the bug. | 21:52 |
| th1a | Or blueprint. | 21:52 |
| th1a | Anyhow, we need to start doing it. | 21:52 |
| th1a | So how about you let me know how to log in once you have the testing instance up. ;-) | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | no th1a | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | that's what Fran is for | 21:53 |
| th1a | Well, that's what I'm saying. | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | i'm talking about the incoming merge | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:53 |
| th1a | Yes, certainly. | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | take 2.8 | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | think what we add first to 3.0 | 21:54 |
| replaceafill | set some ark instance | 21:54 |
| th1a | Ideally Fran wouldn't discover you have the wrong database. | 21:54 |
| replaceafill | try what we're going to merge | 21:54 |
| replaceafill | i'm talking about that kind of testing | 21:54 |
| replaceafill | but unfortunately at this point i don't care anymore | 21:54 |
| replaceafill | let's just fix bugs as they are reported | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | like today | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | that's a logical catch | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | the dashboard has been there for a while | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | the report has been there for a while | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | but nobody considered checking if the numbers matched | 21:55 |
| th1a | OK, fine. | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | question is, is that Fran's job or ours...? | 21:57 |
| th1a | Well, it is our job to get the demo database right. | 21:58 |
| th1a | That's what I'm talking about. | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | i made a mistake, simple | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | what if the database had been the right one | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | would you have cared the same? | 21:58 |
| th1a | Obviously a test is unnecessary if something works. | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | sigh | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:59 |
| th1a | I just could have asked you for the login and tried it. | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | you get my notification emails, right? | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | for the record | 22:00 |
| th1a | Notification of? Bugs? | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | the demo instances use default credentials | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | when i tell Fran i've updated the demo instances | 22:00 |
| th1a | Yeah, I mean, we've had a ten minute conversation now about whether I should have bothered you for a minute or two yesterday. | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | lately we have had lots of unnecessary conversations like this | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | but we end up in the same place | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | :) | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | we suck at this | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | period | 22:02 |
| th1a | Not period. | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | true th1a | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | we're a joke | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | i mean, with all due respect | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | (to you) | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | solo developer, solo manager | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | and we have all sorts of s..t on us for some reason | 22:04 |
| th1a | Well, you're pretty fried and careless on this right now, and I'm not getting on top of you about it as much as I should. | 22:06 |
| th1a | It is hardly an unsolvable problem though. | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | what's the solution? | 22:07 |
| th1a | I should have asked you for the login info. | 22:07 |
| th1a | Or you should have double checked. | 22:07 |
| th1a | Anyhow. | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you're talking about today's issue | 22:08 |
| th1a | Yes, that's all I'm talking about. | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | i'm talking about our way of working | 22:08 |
| th1a | In terms of? | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | nah never mind | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | i'm tired | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | i'll go get something to eat | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | anything else we should discuss? | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | i saw a proximity email yesterday | 22:10 |
| th1a | I just have to go ahead when I think "Should I ask about checking this first?" | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | didn't understand it | 22:10 |
| th1a | Yes, ah, ok. | 22:10 |
| th1a | So essentially they're broke until they get paid for next year. | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:10 |
| th1a | And they're changing Canvas hosts. | 22:11 |
| th1a | So probably we just pick this up in September. | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:11 |
| th1a | Or... not, but no particular reason to think not beyond their overall lack of concern about the project. | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | hm? | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | can you rephrase that last part | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i don't get it | 22:12 |
| th1a | I mean, there is no particular new reason to think this won't continue. | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 22:12 |
| th1a | It very much goes along with them not seeming concerned about costs last fall and then a lot more in the spring. | 22:12 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:13 |
| th1a | That's all I have. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | cool | 22:13 |
| th1a | Get some food. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | i'm done too | 22:13 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 22:13 |
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