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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 18:31 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | give me a few minutes, i'm in the middle of something | 18:31 |
| th1a | Sure. | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | ok, ready th1a | 18:37 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | i was testing the report card fix | 18:37 |
| th1a | So what is the late/tardy difference? | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | since they want the "present but late" counted as present in some reports | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | they haven't set it as a Tardy in the score system | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | instead they use the feature we added for timestamps | 18:38 |
| th1a | Ah. | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | for late arrivals or early | 18:38 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | i forgot about that :/ | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | but i just published a fix for it | 18:39 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:39 |
| th1a | So... at this point, are we lacking a kind of middle layer in these reports to get some of this data in a standard way. That is, is it mostly kind of ad hoc for each report? | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | yeah, basically | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | there's a base report class | 18:41 |
| th1a | Compounded by the fact that each report doesn't necessarily want the same data in the same way. | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | right | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | that's the problem really | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | on some reports level students means one thing | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | and some other (like attendance) means other | 18:42 |
| th1a | In what way? | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | i guess we need a base "assessment report" | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | "attendance report" | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | "level report" etc | 18:42 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:42 |
| th1a | Could we conceivably do that in the 3.x process? | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | that's my naive hope | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | i try to do it along the way | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | but it's not enough | 18:43 |
| th1a | Well, I suppose it is also the kind of thing I can say we will do and if it doesn't happen, nobody is going to know. | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | for example, that look up i added for the rising report card is way better than the old approach for detecting students in a level for a period of time | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | note the "period of time" part | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | that's really important | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | when you take school years into account | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | which is the problem of most reports/bugs | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | we are not asking the level about dates | 18:45 |
| th1a | It is a good example of the kind of cleanup needed -- essentially a long sequence of complex reports were added one by one -- on tight deadlines -- without ever having an overall plan for managing the complexity. | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | just "give me your students" | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | and the system has evolved too | 18:45 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | we've added features and haven't updated every single part in every single package accordingly | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | "students now can graduate..." | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | "oh i need to ask the relationships differently in this report" | 18:46 |
| th1a | OK. I think I can explain that. | 18:47 |
| th1a | Do we have "dozens" of Ark reports at this point? | 18:47 |
| th1a | About 15? | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | i think i need to upload something somewhere | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | hold on | 18:48 |
| th1a | ok | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | can you upload folders to google drive? | 18:49 |
| th1a | yes | 18:49 |
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| replaceafill | i'm not sure if what i'm doing will make things more confusing for you... | 18:51 |
| th1a | hm? | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | i'm uploading a few report samples i generated a couple of months ago | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | ok, shared | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | got it? | 18:51 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | those are most of the ark reports | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | probably missing project specific ones like the report cards | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | but it'll give you ideas about how many and how "generic" those are | 18:52 |
| th1a | OK, dozens then... over 35. | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | well, some are repated | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | focus on the folders only | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | boy | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | there are a few! | 18:53 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:53 |
| th1a | It isn't like we haven't done a lot. | 18:53 |
| th1a | You can see the problems with the model here. | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | :) | 18:53 |
| th1a | Sure, we can add one more... | 18:54 |
| th1a | When can we say, "Look, we have to stop now and you pay us $5,000 to reorganize things." | 18:54 |
| replaceafill | if they're interested in long time survival... | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | either us or some other dev | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | this needs to be cleaned | 18:55 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:55 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:56 |
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| replaceafill | ouch | 20:16 |
| replaceafill | triple digit rankings :| | 20:16 |
| replaceafill | 128/155 | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | "this report card is for small schools only!" :D | 20:17 |
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