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| th1a | replaceafill: I'm back but need to make lunch. | 18:52 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, ok | 18:52 |
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| th1a | hi replaceafill. Is this a good time for you? | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yeah | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | i'm checking the credit importer issue | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | reported from india | 19:23 |
| th1a | Oh, is that new? | 19:24 |
| th1a | OK, I see. | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | it was the one we were waiting on | 19:24 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | it's the one* | 19:24 |
| th1a | Thanks for the demo instructions for Fran and Steph. They seem clear. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | i tried to keep it short | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | i'm going to explain the stream functionality after they enroll, etc | 19:27 |
| th1a | Yes, good. | 19:28 |
| th1a | Well, we can talk about Proximity when you're ready. | 19:29 |
| th1a | No need to cram that into your mind now. | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | i'm confused | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | the xls Piyali just sent seems to work for me | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | i guess i'll need a follow up question | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | we can talk | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | proximity | 19:31 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | but i have no idea about the scope | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | from Andrew's email | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | oh "the other items you mentioned" | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | so i need to read your email then | 19:32 |
| th1a | Well, | 19:33 |
| th1a | Courses, sections, terms, years, score systems, student grades for term/year per section. | 19:34 |
| th1a | Groups. | 19:34 |
| th1a | (student/teacher) | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | so, basically everything | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | as in "finish the grades integration" | 19:35 |
| th1a | Well, yes. | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | ok, can you give me a moment to reply Piyali | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | i got a few screenshots | 19:36 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | th1a, feel free to chime in in the VMS thread if my explanation doesn't make sense | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | my english feels broken today :/ | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | anyway, back to proximity | 19:48 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:49 |
| th1a | So... | 19:50 |
| th1a | We have access to a testing instance for them? | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | proximity? | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | do you want to check it? | 19:51 |
| th1a | Sure. | 19:52 |
| th1a | We can log into the web ui? | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | give me a moment | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | ok, so you have access to their production instance, right? | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | your username/password should be the same | 19:55 |
| th1a | Uh, I probably have an email. | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | don't you use a password manager? | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | :P | 19:56 |
| th1a | What's the url? | 19:56 |
| th1a | OK, in on testing. | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:58 |
| th1a | Hm. Do we have permission to see more of the overall data structure? | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | i do | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | you should | 20:00 |
| th1a | How do I get there? | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | do you see a Select Course linke at the top | 20:01 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:01 |
| replaceafill | hover that | 20:01 |
| replaceafill | then Proximity Learning on the right | 20:01 |
| th1a | OK. | 20:01 |
| th1a | So they have lots of different terms? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | as you can see, their stuff date back to 2013 :S | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 20:02 |
| th1a | Hm... people are just people, student, etc. is at section level? | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | our People is Users | 20:03 |
| th1a | They don't have students as a separate group though? | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 20:03 |
| th1a | No grading schemes to display, so they don't use them? | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | when you query canvas | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | the enrollment information tells you that someone can have "StudentEnrollments", "TeacherEnrollments" | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | etc | 20:04 |
| th1a | OK, so we don't have to worry about those groups then. | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | Accepted values are 'StudentEnrollment', 'TeacherEnrollment', 'TaEnrollment', 'DesignerEnrollment', and 'ObserverEnrollment.' | 20:05 |
| th1a | Those are per-course? | 20:06 |
| th1a | Or is that an overall status? | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | it depends how you query | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | but the course/section structure is similar to ours | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | one course can have many sections | 20:07 |
| th1a | Oh! Grades are in enrollment. | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | i think you should try our clients app more frequently th1a | 20:08 |
| th1a | What part of the api are you looking at? enrollments? | 20:09 |
| th1a | I'm just trying to remember this. | 20:09 |
| th1a | OK, so they do have the course/section distinction (this is not Moodle). | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | yeah, enrollments | 20:09 |
| th1a | OK, so it looks like enrollment info has the grade, and they don't use grading schemes. | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | i'm not sure what you mean | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | enrollment info has the grade? | 20:10 |
| th1a | Well, it is at the top of this page at least: https://canvas.instructure.com/doc/api/enrollments.html | 20:11 |
| th1a | How do you get that grade object? | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | i'm not sure why it is there | 20:12 |
| th1a | It seems like it is implied that it is just supplied with the enrollment. | 20:14 |
| th1a | You can get them here: https://canvas.instructure.com/doc/api/courses.html | 20:16 |
| th1a | include "total_scores" | 20:16 |
| th1a | I think enrollments by default gives you grades if it has them. | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | give me a moment, i'll test the api | 20:18 |
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