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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 17:33 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 17:33 |
| th1a | I'm glad Fran included that list of features for 3.0 in her email. I was dreading trying to come up with that first step. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:34 |
| th1a | I'm going to give her a short answer today and tell her we'll discuss it in more detail next week. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:34 |
| th1a | It seems to me there are two tricky areas: | 17:34 |
| th1a | 1) can we integrate the daily attendance with our homeroom attendance (or just get rid of homeroom) or what; | 17:35 |
| th1a | 2) Do we want their additional layer of assessment sheets to be on by default or more optional (I'm thinking just default is ok). | 17:35 |
| th1a | We'd mainly just need to update our standard report card layout to use those, etc. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | homeroom attendance is already integrated with the Journal tab attendance | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | ARK teacher/student just borrowed the same functionality | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | teacher/student attendance | 17:37 |
| th1a | In what sense is it integrated? | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | remember the Journal tab? | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | with all the persons in the system | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | if you mark someone there as present | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | or whatever score | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | that's carried to whatever section they have as homeroom | 17:39 |
| th1a | Ah, good. OK. | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | it's a single global requirement | 17:39 |
| th1a | So at worst that needs some testing and polish. | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | what i'm trying to say is, we already have a view integrated with the homeroom functionality | 17:40 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:40 |
| th1a | testing and polish = me writing the documentation. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | pretty much yeah | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | ark's student attendance has some nice extra things | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | like fill as present | 17:41 |
| th1a | OK. Yeah. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | more filters | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | and reports! | 17:41 |
| th1a | Right. | 17:41 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | some of the reports could work in the general case imho | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | maybe not all of them | 17:41 |
| th1a | We'll have this discussion next week, but mostly you're not aware of a lot of traps in this process. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | traps? | 17:42 |
| th1a | Reasons we won't be able to integrate the ARK stuff that aren't obvious on the surface. | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | probably just the score systems | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | each project includes their own custom score system for the global view to use | 17:43 |
| th1a | off topic fyi: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/06/us/outsourcing-companies-dominate-h1b-visas.html?_r=0 | 17:43 |
| th1a | So that needs to be setable. | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | :| | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | 16k visas :O | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | well, it's already setable | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | we just need to include something in the journal | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | or not enable the views until that's set | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | other than that... | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | fees won't be 3.0 standard right? | 17:46 |
| th1a | I'd like it to be. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | i mean, it'll be a plugin | 17:46 |
| th1a | I'd like it installed by default | 17:46 |
| th1a | . | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | hm ok | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | assessment... | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | i guess assessment is fine since it only affects you after you set it up | 17:48 |
| th1a | It will be confusing to set up. | 17:48 |
| th1a | That'll be my job to deal with explaining. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | what is weird to me about assesment sets is that mimics some of the report sheet/course sheet work | 17:48 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:49 |
| th1a | I mean, it is different enough. | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 17:49 |
| th1a | I'll just have to have a page that is like: | 17:49 |
| th1a | 1) If you use this kind of test in each course, go to ... | 17:50 |
| th1a | 2) If you use different tests in each course, see... | 17:50 |
| th1a | 3) If you let each teacher do their own thing, see... | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | flexible! | 17:50 |
| th1a | The problem is when someone starts reading instructions for a foreign system. | 17:51 |
| th1a | They get super confused because they don't understand what we're trying to model in the first place. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | then the school page, searches and everything else should be fine | 17:53 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:54 |
| th1a | So essentially, mostly "yes," and we'll confirm that next week. | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:54 |
| th1a | Now to "Follow up on Ark SchoolTool instances" | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:55 |
| th1a | Give me the brief and I'll write the email. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | what's the conclusion about the demos? | 17:56 |
| th1a | I'm going to say not this week at least. | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | i'll have the isli issues sorted by the end of the day | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | i started organizing all the databases, because i have a bunch now | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | i was using some backups fran sent me when she was there | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | but i think piyali's files are more up to date | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | although she mixed some... | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | about peas, at this point i'm like: "i have no idea what caused this" | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | i checked the dashboard configs | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | and they seem fine | 18:00 |
| th1a | Mukongoro | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:00 |
| th1a | We suspect it might have something to do with zrs. | 18:01 |
| th1a | That's about all we've got? | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | and the september data | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | september attendance data is in one of the backups | 18:01 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | but yakub says the school took attendance since... may | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | so there's more data lost | 18:02 |
| th1a | So we *only* have September? | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:02 |
| th1a | Should we suggest they disable zrs? | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | weird thing is that Fran says this happened in india too | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | in one school | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | and they're not using zrs | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | but yeah | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | we should suggest that | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | i'd also like to know the experience with the others schools | 18:04 |
| th1a | Huh. | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | i mean, if it was zrs and all of them are syncing | 18:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | is this happening for someone else in Uganda? | 18:04 |
| th1a | I don't think so. | 18:04 |
| th1a | OK, I can write the reply. | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | we're "still on track" oon the rising api | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | and i think the report card is doable | 18:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:06 |
| th1a | Cool. | 18:09 |
| th1a | Make some progress yesterday? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | quick question | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | do you think we need to update the person importer? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | to sync people? | 18:11 |
| th1a | In what sense different? | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | i mean, if you add someone through the importer, the person has to be created in journey, right? | 18:12 |
| th1a | Ah. | 18:13 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | same with section enrollment | 18:13 |
| th1a | That should trigger an event, in other words. | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 18:14 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:14 |
| th1a | See, we're getting better at not forgetting about the importer... ;-) | 18:14 |
| th1a | Only a few days into it. | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | today i'll try the retries parameter in the task | 18:15 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | and pulling attendance data from the app | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | we're ok-ish | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | not in "oh my god" state yet | 18:17 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:17 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | ok, thanks th1a | 18:17 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Could you redirect Andrew's test server (and I imagine wipe the database)? | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | sure about wiping the db? | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ? | 18:45 |
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| th1a | No... you could not and ask. | 19:04 |
| th1a | replaceafill. | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | they don't have much in their current ST testing db | 19:06 |
| th1a | OK, don't worry about it. | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | done | 19:09 |
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