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th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:31 |
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replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:31 |
th1a | I'm re-reading Fran's last email. | 16:33 |
th1a | OK, so at some point we have to calculate the "division" which is essentially a score system used for overall result? | 16:35 |
th1a | Across all sections? | 16:35 |
replaceafill | i think so | 16:37 |
th1a | OK. | 16:37 |
replaceafill | with this form i have the same feeling i initially had with the assesment report xls files | 16:38 |
th1a | Which? | 16:39 |
replaceafill | it looks like a lot of work | 16:39 |
th1a | Which form? | 16:40 |
replaceafill | the uce input | 16:40 |
th1a | Yeah, it is a bit of a job. | 16:41 |
th1a | Hm. | 16:43 |
th1a | OK, so these aren't really in alphabetical order. | 16:43 |
replaceafill | no | 16:44 |
th1a | You have other stuff to do for a while, right? | 16:44 |
replaceafill | yes | 16:44 |
th1a | Hm. OK, these have 10 pairs of scores. | 16:47 |
th1a | I'm kind of thinking we should just use a dynamic search widget with the form to find the next one. | 16:48 |
th1a | At least until the candidate numbers are entered. | 16:49 |
th1a | replaceafill? | 16:54 |
replaceafill | yes? | 16:54 |
th1a | I was waiting for a response. | 16:55 |
th1a | ;-) | 16:55 |
replaceafill | oh sorry i thought you were brainstorming | 16:55 |
replaceafill | and didnt want to interrupt :D | 16:55 |
th1a | While checking the weather. | 16:55 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:55 |
replaceafill | why don't you like the grid approach again? | 16:55 |
th1a | We're supposed to get 20-30 inches of snow between now and Wednesday. | 16:55 |
replaceafill | not sure if you mentioned it | 16:55 |
replaceafill | :| | 16:55 |
replaceafill | that's a lot of snow! | 16:55 |
th1a | I think it is too busy and I think it is essential to give some per student confirmation. | 16:56 |
th1a | I mean, it is possible, to be sure. | 16:56 |
th1a | But for one thing, we can't even replicate the order until we have the candidate numbers correct. | 16:57 |
replaceafill | why do we need student confirmation? | 16:57 |
th1a | I mean to double check each row as they are entered. | 16:57 |
replaceafill | we could hightlight the row? | 16:57 |
th1a | Confirm the course numbers are right, confirm that the aggregate result is correct. | 16:57 |
th1a | There are other ways of doing it. | 16:58 |
th1a | I'm just thinking that a custom single person entry form is not that hard. | 16:58 |
th1a | It depends on how hard it is to create a very customized version of the gradebook grid | 16:59 |
th1a | I'm assuming that could get hairier. | 16:59 |
replaceafill | in my head it's just a different way to layout the activities | 17:00 |
replaceafill | not per worksheet | 17:00 |
th1a | There is a lot of logic. | 17:01 |
th1a | And everything has to be positioned correctly. | 17:01 |
th1a | And we would like it to fit on the screen horizontally. | 17:01 |
replaceafill | i think it would fit if we don't use any left sidebar | 17:02 |
th1a | Also, you're not saving as you go. | 17:02 |
th1a | I don't know, it seems like a lot of issues. | 17:02 |
replaceafill | i just think a grid is way faster to fill than individual forms | 17:02 |
th1a | Not if you get messed up. | 17:03 |
th1a | Go straight to the wrong person, etc. | 17:03 |
th1a | And saving each person as you go is a big deal in this case. | 17:03 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:03 |
th1a | I'm very dubious about these CAND-NO's. | 17:04 |
th1a | Are they even the same every time you take the test. I doubt it. | 17:04 |
th1a | 101 does not look like a unique ID. | 17:04 |
replaceafill | are they even tied to the student? | 17:05 |
replaceafill | maybe they're just a # column | 17:05 |
th1a | That's what I mean. | 17:05 |
replaceafill | only a sequential number | 17:05 |
replaceafill | right | 17:05 |
th1a | So essentially these are probably just unsorted. | 17:05 |
replaceafill | yeah | 17:06 |
th1a | So I'm thinking: | 17:07 |
th1a | 1) you get just a simple search student widget | 17:07 |
th1a | 2) either submit/reload or ajaxify a form which has: | 17:08 |
th1a | a) Sex, EC(what is that?), Full name for confirmation (probably skip age because we don't know from what date it is calculated (when was the test given)); | 17:09 |
th1a | b) basically a row of ten text entry widgets | 17:10 |
th1a | c) submit. | 17:10 |
th1a | 3) Confirm screen that highlights any obvious errors and displays the whole row, including aggregate score and result. | 17:10 |
th1a | Over. | 17:13 |
th1a | ;-) | 17:13 |
replaceafill | :) | 17:13 |
* replaceafill is checking the xls | 17:14 | |
replaceafill | we'd need a division text widget | 17:14 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:15 |
th1a | For the result? | 17:16 |
replaceafill | for the "extra" columns | 17:16 |
replaceafill | like Check, Best 8 | 17:16 |
replaceafill | the auto-calc columns as Fran calls them | 17:17 |
th1a | Well, I'm just worrying about the data entry side of this form. | 17:19 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:20 |
th1a | At this point. | 17:20 |
th1a | So my basic approach makes sense to you? | 17:21 |
replaceafill | sure | 17:21 |
th1a | OK, I'll mock this up, bounce it over to you, and we'll come up with an estimate to send to Fran? | 17:23 |
replaceafill | cool | 17:23 |
replaceafill | i don't think this way will take much time | 17:23 |
th1a | No, 2-3 days I'd think. | 17:23 |
replaceafill | it's definitely easier than making a smart grid | 17:23 |
th1a | OK, I thought so. | 17:23 |
replaceafill | right | 17:23 |
th1a | I don't have anything else new. | 17:24 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:25 |
replaceafill | i still have to go through the teacher attendance reports | 17:25 |
replaceafill | i mean, before getting to assesment | 17:26 |
replaceafill | oh, i'll also help jelkner with his instance | 17:26 |
replaceafill | that's it from me | 17:26 |
th1a | Cool. | 17:26 |
th1a | OK, I have to go buy groceries before it starts dumping down snow. | 17:27 |
replaceafill | :( | 17:27 |
replaceafill | good luck | 17:27 |
th1a | We've got no food in the house. | 17:27 |
th1a | Thanks. | 17:27 |
replaceafill | go go go! | 17:27 |
th1a | Later, replaceafill. | 17:27 |
replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:27 |
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th1a | replaceafill: sent you a mockup. | 21:00 |
th1a | Going out for some final errands. | 21:06 |
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replaceafill | th1a, kk | 21:09 |
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replaceafill | th1a, replied | 21:31 |
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th1a | ayt replaceafill? | 23:26 |
replaceafill | th1a, back | 23:45 |
* replaceafill went to the bank | 23:45 | |
th1a | I just sent the email to Fran (cc:ed you). | 23:45 |
th1a | I don't think this storm is going to miss us. | 23:46 |
replaceafill | :( | 23:47 |
th1a | Since we're on the coast, a lot of times big scary storms either just turn into rain or miss us out to sea. | 23:48 |
replaceafill | ah | 23:48 |
th1a | Or it just melts on the ground for a few hours. | 23:48 |
th1a | It was under 25F most of the day though, so it started sticking immediately. | 23:49 |
th1a | Always a bad sign. | 23:49 |
th1a | OK, I'm going to go make dinner. | 23:49 |
replaceafill | ok | 23:49 |
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