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th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:32 |
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replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:32 |
th1a | OK, so we have some business business to discuss, which is good. | 16:34 |
th1a | Maybe we should start with a school page update to get that out of the way. | 16:34 |
replaceafill | definitely | 16:34 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:35 |
replaceafill | so | 16:36 |
replaceafill | catalogs work | 16:36 |
replaceafill | i added search to the containers views | 16:37 |
replaceafill | i mean /persons, /courses, /sections | 16:37 |
replaceafill | and cleaned the css a bit | 16:37 |
replaceafill | i don't have any more notes on the school page | 16:38 |
replaceafill | which means it's basically done | 16:38 |
replaceafill | oh | 16:38 |
replaceafill | i do have one | 16:38 |
replaceafill | the title of the school year/terms reports | 16:38 |
replaceafill | move it out of the menu | 16:38 |
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replaceafill | so i guess we need the 2.9 series now | 16:41 |
replaceafill | (and branch) | 16:41 |
th1a | Ah, yes. | 16:41 |
replaceafill | and put all of this there | 16:41 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:41 |
th1a | I mean, keep it as lightweight as is reasonable. | 16:41 |
th1a | What is a series in this context? | 16:41 |
replaceafill | there are a couple of fixes that can land in trunk | 16:42 |
th1a | Just how launchpad looks at it? | 16:42 |
replaceafill | yes | 16:42 |
replaceafill | i guess we don't even need a series | 16:42 |
replaceafill | just a 2.9 branch | 16:42 |
replaceafill | would do | 16:42 |
replaceafill | i'll give it a try, if it's too complicated i'll use just a branch :) | 16:42 |
replaceafill | i remember i created series before for quiz | 16:43 |
th1a | OK. | 16:43 |
th1a | Yeah, I'm just saying don't get bogged down in administration. | 16:43 |
replaceafill | sure | 16:43 |
replaceafill | i think that's it from me about the school page | 16:44 |
th1a | OK. So what's going on with Quiz? | 16:45 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:45 |
replaceafill | so i set up the instance and loaded the skills for isaac | 16:45 |
replaceafill | we met last week so they set it up as we discussed | 16:45 |
replaceafill | one big year | 16:45 |
replaceafill | a course with all the skills | 16:45 |
replaceafill | and a section with isaac as instructor | 16:46 |
replaceafill | isaac seemed to love it | 16:46 |
replaceafill | he said that'd be enough for him to demo it | 16:46 |
replaceafill | he started to talk about adding additional content | 16:46 |
replaceafill | like lessons | 16:46 |
replaceafill | to schooltool | 16:46 |
th1a | i have welsh on the phone. | 16:47 |
replaceafill | but i don't see that flying | 16:47 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:47 |
th1a | OK.. | 17:27 |
th1a | Catching up... | 17:27 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:27 |
th1a | Lessons? | 17:27 |
replaceafill | like content, text with explanations, examples, etc | 17:27 |
replaceafill | did you get his email with a link to a site_ | 17:28 |
replaceafill | hold on | 17:28 |
th1a | Oh, yes. | 17:29 |
th1a | Well, that could just be in a completely different system. | 17:29 |
replaceafill | right | 17:29 |
th1a | Yeah, that's a different system, I'd say. | 17:31 |
replaceafill | i agree | 17:31 |
replaceafill | and then | 17:32 |
replaceafill | there's the automated quizzes part | 17:32 |
replaceafill | the system gives quizzes to users automatically | 17:32 |
replaceafill | without the instructor having to do anything | 17:32 |
th1a | I think I only have a fragment of the Moving Forward thread. | 17:32 |
replaceafill | ah hold on | 17:32 |
replaceafill | just sent the first one | 17:33 |
th1a | Well, I could do some research on options later this week. | 17:35 |
replaceafill | on? | 17:36 |
th1a | There really would be no point in doing this from scratch. | 17:36 |
th1a | Existing open source options. | 17:36 |
replaceafill | you mean, all of it? | 17:37 |
th1a | The lessons part. | 17:38 |
replaceafill | ah got it | 17:38 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:38 |
th1a | OK, so I'll email Isaac. | 17:39 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:39 |
th1a | Let me check on Julia... | 17:39 |
replaceafill | sure | 17:40 |
th1a | OK. | 17:42 |
th1a | https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/258104 | 17:43 |
replaceafill | ah right | 17:43 |
th1a | So the question at this point is scanning in class attendance. | 17:43 |
replaceafill | POV did that, right? | 17:43 |
th1a | Well, it was different. | 17:43 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 17:44 |
th1a | I mean, PoV did what he really wants (check in/check out of the school). | 17:44 |
th1a | But that's a bit involved. | 17:44 |
th1a | Tracking the state of the student through the school day. | 17:45 |
th1a | But not by period. | 17:45 |
th1a | Understand? | 17:45 |
replaceafill | yes | 17:45 |
th1a | OK, so I suspect an individual school doesn't want to pay for all that. | 17:45 |
replaceafill | tracking the state of the student throught the school is similar to what we did for ark | 17:45 |
th1a | Yeah... do we track them leaving during the day though? | 17:46 |
replaceafill | not leaving, it's just a second period | 17:46 |
replaceafill | entering in the afternoon | 17:46 |
replaceafill | but it's the same approach i guess | 17:46 |
replaceafill | two period tracks | 17:46 |
replaceafill | isn't this task just a matter of letting the student doing it? | 17:47 |
th1a | Well, | 17:47 |
th1a | ok, | 17:47 |
th1a | so basically, I'm thinking we could have a link on the journal view, | 17:47 |
th1a | that would pop up a dialog, | 17:47 |
th1a | with a form to accept an ID number. | 17:47 |
th1a | Which is what the barcode will be giving. | 17:48 |
th1a | And then the dialog updates the gradebook. | 17:48 |
replaceafill | that'd work | 17:48 |
replaceafill | i was thinking more of a independent view, instead of a dialog | 17:50 |
th1a | Sorry got an actual business phone call there... | 17:51 |
replaceafill | np | 17:51 |
th1a | I think it might be nice as a dialog, as long as it was set up to do multiple things. | 17:52 |
th1a | Also, it could be not modal, perhaps. | 17:52 |
th1a | We're kind of locked in on modal dialogs for maybe no reason. | 17:52 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:53 |
replaceafill | at first ,it seems like a simple task | 17:54 |
replaceafill | it'd require some kind of configuration, right? | 17:54 |
th1a | Yeah. | 17:55 |
replaceafill | which present grade you'd want to assign | 17:55 |
th1a | Which field are you trying to match? | 17:55 |
replaceafill | field? | 17:55 |
replaceafill | ah | 17:55 |
replaceafill | you mean, for identifying the student | 17:55 |
replaceafill | right | 17:56 |
th1a | Yes. | 17:56 |
th1a | So what do you think, 2 days? | 17:57 |
th1a | This could go in core. | 17:57 |
replaceafill | yeah, 2 days seems right | 17:57 |
th1a | OK. | 17:58 |
th1a | Hm... maybe we should look at this http://dataservices.intuit.com/support/pages/inproducthelp/core/qb2k12/contentpackage/core/iif/task_import_trans.html | 17:59 |
th1a | (moving onto the next item) | 17:59 |
th1a | (sorry) | 17:59 |
th1a | We need a quote for Quickbooks importing (from fees). | 17:59 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 17:59 |
replaceafill | from who? | 18:00 |
replaceafill | i mean, i remember something about quickbooks being discussed | 18:00 |
th1a | Tjark? | 18:00 |
replaceafill | ah | 18:00 |
replaceafill | got it | 18:00 |
replaceafill | i thought he only wanted grades :) | 18:01 |
replaceafill | oh, you can download quickbooks pro 2013? | 18:01 |
th1a | I have it. | 18:02 |
th1a | I think. | 18:02 |
th1a | I can't download the import kid for some reason. | 18:02 |
th1a | Is that page working for you? | 18:03 |
replaceafill | http://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/Articles/HOW12778 | 18:04 |
replaceafill | no, their js has an error | 18:04 |
replaceafill | i just used the source | 18:05 |
th1a | ok. | 18:05 |
replaceafill | screenshots in bmp! | 18:05 |
replaceafill | :D | 18:05 |
th1a | This would be importing customers, invoices and payments, I guess, since that's all the data we have anyhow. | 18:06 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 18:07 |
replaceafill | so we'd have to understand the format | 18:08 |
th1a | Ew, that's a bit ugly. | 18:08 |
th1a | Hm. | 18:09 |
th1a | So we'd have to be creating the customers for us to know their ID's. | 18:09 |
replaceafill | you mean their ID's in quickbooks? | 18:11 |
th1a | Yeah. | 18:11 |
th1a | OK, so this would actually be pretty complicated and annoying. | 18:12 |
replaceafill | :D | 18:12 |
th1a | Like, a week? | 18:12 |
replaceafill | the report (export) should be simple to code | 18:12 |
replaceafill | but yes, a week sounds ok | 18:13 |
replaceafill | it's just the uncertainty of the quickbooks part | 18:13 |
replaceafill | oh my | 18:13 |
replaceafill | a lot of things you can import into quickbooks :D | 18:14 |
th1a | OK. We'd better check this export spreadsheet he sent to make sure it is the same one we looked at before. | 18:17 |
th1a | Oh... maybe not at all... | 18:18 |
replaceafill | i'd like to understand dutch ;) | 18:19 |
replaceafill | if that's dutch ofc | 18:19 |
replaceafill | i don't remember seeing this one before | 18:19 |
th1a | OK, I think I totally missed a step here. | 18:19 |
th1a | Nawien wanted an importer. | 18:20 |
th1a | Oh, I said initially $250 - $500 for this export, which is maybe low. | 18:20 |
th1a | Considering there are six sheets. | 18:21 |
th1a | I'd better ask for an explanation before we give a real quote. | 18:21 |
replaceafill | agree | 18:21 |
replaceafill | the other format seemed easier to understand | 18:21 |
th1a | Well, this seems pretty tabular, so there just can't be that much to it. | 18:22 |
replaceafill | oh, it was because last time they sent a xls with schooltool's importer format | 18:22 |
replaceafill | ok | 18:23 |
th1a | OK, so the second one is like a report on the number of students dropping out or returning. | 18:24 |
th1a | Hm. | 18:24 |
th1a | Lots of stuff like "Percentage obtained certificates for the overall phase" | 18:26 |
th1a | So, hm. | 18:26 |
th1a | OK, I'll ask. | 18:27 |
replaceafill | kk | 18:27 |
th1a | If they want to import a bunch of old data and generate these reports, that'll be a problem. | 18:27 |
th1a | OK, I'll follow up. | 18:28 |
th1a | That should do it. | 18:28 |
th1a | Did you get your wire transfer? | 18:28 |
replaceafill | yes, thanks! | 18:29 |
replaceafill | i got like $45 less | 18:29 |
replaceafill | because of bank fees i guess | 18:29 |
th1a | Ah, probably. ? | 18:29 |
th1a | I'll ask next time. | 18:29 |
replaceafill | ok | 18:29 |
replaceafill | ok, i need to go get Camila | 18:31 |
th1a | Yes. | 18:31 |
th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 18:31 |
replaceafill | thanks th1a | 18:31 |
replaceafill | bb in ~40 | 18:31 |
th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 19:54 |
replaceafill | th1a, yes | 19:55 |
th1a | Do you think we could reasonably save each barcode scan as entered? | 19:55 |
th1a | I just have a feeling people might forget if they have to explicitly save all of them after closing the dialog. | 19:55 |
th1a | Or I guess closing the dialog could save them. | 19:55 |
th1a | That would probably be ok. | 19:55 |
replaceafill | i thought we were going to modify the gradebook on each scan | 19:56 |
th1a | Well, just checking. | 19:57 |
replaceafill | oh | 19:57 |
replaceafill | that's your question, right? | 19:57 |
th1a | Uh. | 19:58 |
th1a | The answer can be "yes." | 19:58 |
th1a | This seems like a nice feature for Quickbooks 2014... http://www.quickbooks-training.net/importing-transaction-from-excel-into-quickbooks-2014/ | 19:59 |
replaceafill | ah | 19:59 |
replaceafill | that's a separate product, right? | 20:00 |
th1a | I believe you have to pay for it. | 20:00 |
replaceafill | i guess we should ask the customer which version of quickbooks he has | 20:02 |
th1a | Yes. | 20:02 |
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replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 22:43 |
th1a | hi replaceafill. | 22:45 |
replaceafill | do you mind if i fix this one now: | 22:45 |
replaceafill | https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/258484 | 22:45 |
replaceafill | and release it tomorrow | 22:45 |
replaceafill | i just had a question in spanish asking about it | 22:45 |
replaceafill | https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/258484 | 22:45 |
replaceafill | it should be quick | 22:45 |
th1a | Uh, sure? | 22:46 |
replaceafill | kk, thanks | 22:46 |
replaceafill | btw | 22:46 |
replaceafill | what's next after the school page? | 22:46 |
replaceafill | bugfixes? | 22:46 |
th1a | Lets get the importer to use the headers and not be dependent on order. | 22:47 |
replaceafill | oh ok | 22:47 |
replaceafill | hhmm | 22:48 |
replaceafill | i think i have a question about that... | 22:48 |
replaceafill | i'll check my notes and ask in the meeting tomorrow if i find it | 22:48 |
th1a | OK. | 22:49 |
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