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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 17:32 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 17:32 |
| th1a | How are you? | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | good | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | fully recovered from my cold | 17:33 |
| th1a | That's good. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | th1a, did you get any reply from Anthony Nelson? | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | (on the journal bug) | 17:34 |
| th1a | Checking | 17:35 |
| th1a | Oh, yes I did. | 17:36 |
| th1a | I guess we could change them to ARK day attendance, based on the timetable... | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | is that 8 am to 3 am? | 17:37 |
| th1a | OH! | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | the journal uses 24 hour format, right? | 17:37 |
| th1a | Maybe? | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | i'll check | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | yes, i just set one schedule from 8 am to 3 pm | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | and 3 pm is displayed as 15:00 | 17:44 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to reproduce his setup (timezone and periods) after the meeting | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | with a fresh db | 17:46 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:46 |
| th1a | I suspect you'll be able to reproduce it now... | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | Germio also answered | 17:48 |
| th1a | Ah... | 17:48 |
| * th1a is a little scattered today. | 17:48 | |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:48 |
| th1a | Do you have the import spreadsheet they sent? | 17:50 |
| th1a | I just forwarded it. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | ah thanks | 17:51 |
| th1a | We should probably set up an alias to get mail to both of us or something... | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | hhmm people usually only write to you | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | so we need to take the xls import it in a fresh db | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | and the create the script to assign the grades based on the csv | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | right? | 17:52 |
| th1a | That should work. | 17:52 |
| th1a | Now, at this point we're pretty much pausing to get reports and work out a contract, I believe. | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | maybe we should contact Steven Celmer? | 17:53 |
| th1a | Take a look at the sctions, though. | 17:53 |
| th1a | About... ? | 17:54 |
| th1a | In general? | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | maybe he's still interested in the social skills work | 17:54 |
| th1a | Yeah, but we can do that beginning of next year. | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:54 |
| th1a | Unless there is a connection here I'm missing... | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | oh | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | you mean we're pausing with Surinam? | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | i thought you meant ARK | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | or maybe i'm just confused :) | 17:55 |
| th1a | I mean, we're not importing these grades until we have a contract. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | understood | 17:55 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:55 |
| th1a | Yes, I'm just stating the obvious. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:55 |
| th1a | The only hang up here seems to be section title vs. ID. | 17:56 |
| th1a | There are multiple sections with the same title, I think. | 17:56 |
| th1a | If need be we could just find the correct section. | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | i haven't looked closely yet | 17:56 |
| th1a | (for each person) | 17:56 |
| th1a | I'll ask if he can give us the ID's easily. | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | i thought you did | 17:56 |
| th1a | His answers don't have a lot of detail! | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | anyway, yeah id's will be easier to handle | 17:57 |
| th1a | Presumably English is not his first language. | 17:57 |
| th1a | But basically, we should be able to go ahead from this point. | 17:57 |
| th1a | When they are ready. | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:57 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 20:01 |
| th1a | Hi replaceafill. | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | ok, i was able to reproduce Anthony's bug | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | but what's actually the bug? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | 1. | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | school attendance uses timezone conversion and the section journal doesn't | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | 2. Anthony's periods are spanning from 8 am to 3 am | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | more than one day periods | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | imho the bug is: we either handle timezones or not | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | should i just remove timezone handling from the school attendance view? | 20:04 |
| th1a | What is "timezone handling" in this context? | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | meetings have timestamps as .dtstart | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | i mean journal meetings | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | so when the date is calculated from them | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | we first convert the dtstart.astimezone(app_timezone).date() | 20:06 |
| replaceafill | if I use Anthony's scenario | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | and change the timezone to UTC | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | the dates in both views match | 20:07 |
| th1a | ST timezone. | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:07 |
| th1a | Is the OS using UTC in this case? | 20:08 |
| replaceafill | in my case the OS timezone is set to America/El_Salvador | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | according to /etc/timezone | 20:09 |
| th1a | I guess I'm just wondering if this comes up when everything is set consistently, or if something is wrong. | 20:10 |
| th1a | Or if it only comes up if something is wrong. | 20:10 |
| th1a | I mean, "timezone handling" should be, you know, making it work correctly? | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | oh, so i should try America/El_Salvador for ST timezone | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | i used New_York | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | as Anthony's example | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | ok, let me try that | 20:11 |
| th1a | I mean, presumably "screw it, turn off 'timezone handling' is going to cause a problem for some other case. | 20:12 |
| th1a | The PRIMARY bug here is that their periods go into tomorrow, which is obviously a mistake. | 20:13 |
| th1a | I added the Linode. | 20:31 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:31 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Do you want me to answer and point that out? | 20:47 |
| replaceafill | the 8-3 periods | 20:47 |
| replaceafill | yes please | 20:47 |
| replaceafill | i tried America/El_Salvador as the ST timezone | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | but the result is the same | 20:49 |
| th1a | What about UTC? | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | UTC makes them match | 20:49 |
| th1a | Otherwise, he needs a new timetable schema and reschedule? | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | i mean, UTC as the ST timezone | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | don't we have a bug that prevents rescheduling...? | 20:50 |
| replaceafill | can't remember | 20:50 |
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