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th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:32 |
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replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:32 |
th1a | (menesis, mobert, mgedmin) | 16:32 |
th1a | How are we doing on the report, replaceafill? | 16:33 |
replaceafill | mostly done | 16:33 |
replaceafill | i just discovered a glitch adding a couple of duplicate columns | 16:33 |
replaceafill | nothing major though | 16:34 |
replaceafill | and the xls works | 16:34 |
th1a | Cool. | 16:35 |
replaceafill | i'll just clean it up a little (the code) | 16:35 |
replaceafill | th1a, should i update the dashboard package? | 16:35 |
th1a | I guess we'll be able to move onto other schooltool work. | 16:35 |
replaceafill | yeah | 16:35 |
th1a | It doesn't really matter. | 16:35 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:35 |
th1a | I'll send ARK an email just confirming we're all on the same page regarding the delay. | 16:35 |
replaceafill | is anyone actually running the dashboard? | 16:36 |
replaceafill | i guess not, right? | 16:36 |
th1a | No. | 16:36 |
replaceafill | i mean, i never heard Sunesh asking questions besides the initial configuration files | 16:36 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:36 |
th1a | Plus the release date is almost a month away anyhow. | 16:36 |
replaceafill | sure | 16:37 |
th1a | So... whatever is convenient for you. | 16:37 |
replaceafill | what'll be next? | 16:37 |
replaceafill | (schooltool work) | 16:37 |
th1a | I'd say: | 16:38 |
th1a | 1) smarten the importer; | 16:38 |
th1a | (pretty much just for demographics) | 16:38 |
replaceafill | ah right | 16:38 |
th1a | I guess you might as well do "resource demographics" at the same time as long as it is quick. | 16:38 |
th1a | Even though nobody uses them... | 16:38 |
th1a | Presumably you can just copy/paste your changes... | 16:39 |
th1a | DON'T get hung up on the resources though. | 16:39 |
replaceafill | you mean, add ability to import resource demographics? | 16:39 |
th1a | Oh, can you not do that at all now? | 16:39 |
th1a | If so, just skip it. | 16:39 |
replaceafill | not sure, let me look | 16:39 |
th1a | 2) Do most of those simple reports we discussed with someone last week. | 16:40 |
th1a | (the labels, etc.) | 16:40 |
replaceafill | the resource importer doesn't look at demographics fields | 16:40 |
replaceafill | just title, description | 16:40 |
th1a | I think that one complicated paper form we should just make sure there is a sane way to copy/paste lists of students in a section into your complex word document or whatever. | 16:41 |
th1a | OK, don't worry about resources at all. | 16:41 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:41 |
th1a | Let me backtrack a little. | 16:41 |
th1a | OK, so they have that grid that they want people to fill out just on paper. | 16:41 |
th1a | And it would be a pain in the ass in reportlab considering it doesn't actually plug in schooltool data beyond names. | 16:42 |
th1a | ANd they apparently already have it laid out in Word or whatever. | 16:42 |
th1a | For something like that, they might as well just use Word or whatever, and they really just need to paste in the names from SchoolTool. | 16:43 |
th1a | If you are following me. | 16:43 |
th1a | So I'll take that up with them. | 16:43 |
th1a | Do you know what I am talking about? | 16:43 |
replaceafill | you mean the reports richard bychowski requested, right? | 16:43 |
th1a | Yeah. | 16:43 |
replaceafill | right | 16:44 |
th1a | There was one that was just like a grid with a student per rows and a bunch of boxes for people to check. | 16:44 |
replaceafill | ah, let me check them | 16:44 |
th1a | It would take at least several hours of RML wanking I'd think to do the form in RML. | 16:44 |
replaceafill | ggrr, can't find the email with the attachment... | 16:45 |
replaceafill | found it | 16:45 |
replaceafill | i assume you're referring to the Monthly Student Progress report | 16:47 |
th1a | Yeah. | 16:48 |
replaceafill | i think that if it's just the names | 16:49 |
replaceafill | i mean, if we're not filling every column | 16:49 |
replaceafill | it shouldn't take that long | 16:50 |
th1a | Well, | 16:50 |
replaceafill | all i can see as complicated is the table header | 16:50 |
th1a | I'd almost rather have a system for telling people how to do this themselves. | 16:50 |
th1a | Anyhow, I'll ask about it. | 16:51 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:51 |
replaceafill | but we're doing some of the other reports, correct? | 16:51 |
replaceafill | i mean, from richard attachments? | 16:51 |
th1a | Yeah, definitely. | 16:51 |
th1a | Yes. | 16:51 |
th1a | The labels, etc. | 16:51 |
replaceafill | using the avery specific sheets he described? | 16:52 |
th1a | Yeah, those are pretty standard. | 16:52 |
replaceafill | i mean, this is custom for him | 16:52 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:52 |
th1a | I would consider those the "industry standard." | 16:52 |
th1a | Or close enough. | 16:52 |
th1a | Considering the time necessary to implement them. | 16:53 |
th1a | So I'll look up the details on those while you do the importer. | 16:53 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:53 |
th1a | And we could release the importer fix. | 16:53 |
replaceafill | so the importer | 16:53 |
replaceafill | how are we going to do the match? | 16:53 |
replaceafill | by title? | 16:53 |
th1a | ID | 16:53 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:53 |
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replaceafill | just for the demographics fields right? | 16:54 |
th1a | Does the column header already use ID, I hope!? | 16:54 |
replaceafill | no, it uses the title | 16:54 |
th1a | AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH. | 16:54 |
replaceafill | :D | 16:54 |
th1a | Really? | 16:54 |
replaceafill | it just uses position, so it doesn't need the id | 16:54 |
replaceafill | yea | 16:54 |
replaceafill | h | 16:54 |
th1a | OK, well, that makes it a little messier. | 16:54 |
th1a | It probably should use both. | 16:55 |
th1a | And throw errors if there is too much ambiguity. | 16:55 |
th1a | Also the exporter should switch to using ID. | 16:55 |
replaceafill | users can control both when they're creating the demo field | 16:56 |
th1a | Yeah. | 16:56 |
replaceafill | but they can't edit the id | 16:56 |
th1a | You could have duplicate titles. | 16:56 |
replaceafill | after the field has been created | 16:56 |
replaceafill | correct | 16:56 |
th1a | Basically if you use a title that applies to multiple fields, it should throw an error and tell you to use the ID. | 16:56 |
replaceafill | ah | 16:57 |
replaceafill | got it | 16:57 |
th1a | And we should essentially be deprecating titles there by taking them out of the export and samples. | 16:57 |
th1a | Unless you have a better idea. | 16:57 |
replaceafill | no, i'm +1 on using IDs | 16:57 |
replaceafill | my question was, IDs just for the demo fields? | 16:58 |
replaceafill | or every column, including standard person fields | 16:58 |
th1a | I'd say we'd want to move toward every column. | 16:58 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:59 |
th1a | At least for that sheet. | 17:00 |
replaceafill | so, basically you could create any kind of spreadsheet | 17:00 |
replaceafill | with just a couple of columns | 17:00 |
replaceafill | as long as the username is there | 17:00 |
th1a | Yes! | 17:00 |
replaceafill | and the importer should work | 17:00 |
replaceafill | instead of expecting all of them | 17:01 |
replaceafill | etc | 17:01 |
replaceafill | got it | 17:01 |
th1a | We could even make it ask if you want to create new demographics right from the importer. | 17:01 |
th1a | But there's no rush on that. | 17:01 |
replaceafill | hhmm | 17:01 |
replaceafill | how would you define the type and other attrs? | 17:01 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:01 |
th1a | It would have to pop a dialogue. | 17:02 |
th1a | Do you want to create a new field... | 17:02 |
th1a | But, we can hold off on that. | 17:02 |
replaceafill | cool | 17:02 |
th1a | OK, that should do it for now. | 17:04 |
replaceafill | kk | 17:04 |
replaceafill | quick question | 17:04 |
replaceafill | did you set up a meeting with Steven? | 17:04 |
th1a | I sent him an email... I'll call him today. | 17:04 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 17:05 |
replaceafill | thanks | 17:05 |
th1a | I haven't forgotten about paying you. | 17:05 |
replaceafill | :D | 17:05 |
th1a | I don't want to do it in such a way that inspires even more scrutiny by the government. | 17:05 |
th1a | There tends to be limits on transaction sizes for that kind of thing. | 17:05 |
th1a | If you wire more than $10,000 or whatever. | 17:05 |
th1a | I'll get that invoice to jelkner too. | 17:06 |
replaceafill | any idea how expensive is to do he wiring? | 17:06 |
th1a | Oh, like $40-50 I think. | 17:06 |
replaceafill | i mean, could it be possible to do multiple wires? | 17:06 |
th1a | We'll probably have to. | 17:06 |
th1a | But 2 or 3 I'd think, not 20. | 17:07 |
th1a | It is just the cost of doing business. | 17:07 |
replaceafill | in fact, i'd appreciate if you could keep them under $5k | 17:07 |
th1a | We actually NEED some business expenses. | 17:07 |
th1a | Oh, ok. | 17:07 |
replaceafill | because that's what i've told the bank i make | 17:07 |
th1a | OK. | 17:07 |
replaceafill | and anything above that always brings MY government on me | 17:07 |
replaceafill | filling forms, etc | 17:07 |
th1a | Right. Yes. | 17:08 |
th1a | OK. | 17:08 |
replaceafill | thanks | 17:08 |
th1a | OK, thanks replaceafill. | 17:09 |
replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:09 |
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