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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:33 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:33 |
| th1a | So we have a fellow in Malaysia asking for a sandbox. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:34 |
| th1a | I don't jump to do that for people at this point... | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | will set it up after the meeting | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | 2.8.1, right? | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | with sample data? | 16:35 |
| th1a | Yeah. This would be of the "doesn't need an init" variety. | 16:35 |
| th1a | No sample data, let's say. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | empty | 16:35 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 16:35 |
| th1a | Did you get Glenda's bugs cleaned up? | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | well, one of them, i consider it a bug | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | so, if you mark a student as INACTIVE for a section | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | teacher cannot see their info anymore | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | it's the person_instructors crowd | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | so i just told the crowd to look in all the students relationships | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | including those where they're inactive | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i think that's fine, right? | 16:39 |
| th1a | Yes, that should be fine. | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | the second issue is | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | let me quote glenda | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | Teacher status change: Same section with an IEP student. Changed one of two teachers to Substitute, effective today, then can't access that teachers information. Error was that I needed more privileges. | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | btw, neither of the issues had to do with IEP | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | and the last one has nothing to do with substitute teachers | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | if i understand glenda correctly, she as a teacher wants to see info about the sub | 16:41 |
| th1a | Oh. | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | but teachers cannot access other teachers info | 16:41 |
| th1a | Uh... | 16:41 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | there's no crowd or security setting for that | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | even if you set both person as instructors | 16:41 |
| th1a | That's fine as is unless it is somehow preventing the teacher from using the gradebook. | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | you mean preventing the sub? | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | both instructor and sub can access the gradebok | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | book* | 16:43 |
| th1a | I think it is fine then. | 16:44 |
| th1a | Teachers don't need to see each others info at this point. | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | also, yesterday i met with jelkner | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | they're requesting some way to mass export/import quizzes | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | currently, we have a way to import/export single quizzes | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | but they want to "recover" all Sean's data from last year | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | in a separate instance | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | i think that'd be 4-8 hours of work | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:47 |
| th1a | I suppose documenting quiz would be a good "before the end of the year" project. | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | i also plan to move jelkner out of using sandboxes | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | to 2.8.1 | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | and make a bugfix release for quiz | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | in my own ppa | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | that might help nedosa to | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | too | 16:49 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | and i think that's it | 16:49 |
| th1a | So maybe then next week a replaceafill one man testing sprint? | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | oh, i've already started :) | 16:50 |
| th1a | ok good | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | i fixed a couple of "easy ones" | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | about the importer | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | the exporter will be a b**ch | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | :( | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | oh | 16:51 |
| th1a | Which exporter? | 16:51 |
| th1a | Just the overall one? | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | i mean, fixing tests for the standard school exporter | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | while i was checking the gradebook's tests i started to think | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | the journal uses this new ajaxy functionality | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | for submitting/refreshing | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | that the gradebook/cando could use | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | also, neither of them complain on invalid submitted data | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | (i think there's a bug around that) | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | so if you submit an 8 in cando for example | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | it LOOKS like the 8 was saved | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | but if you refresh the page again, nothing was really saved | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | which is dangerous imho | 16:54 |
| th1a | y | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | i'm not sure if that's in the scope of test fixing | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | but we should fix that | 16:54 |
| th1a | Actually fixing bugs... yeah. | 16:54 |
| th1a | It is hard to keep track of the "real" failures and the bogus ones. | 16:55 |
| th1a | Which is the whole problem. | 16:55 |
| th1a | Probably bugs that are revealed in the existing tests should just be fixed. | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | it came to me while i was testing glenda's cando gradebook | 16:55 |
| th1a | Unless they are DEEP. | 16:55 |
| th1a | Oh. | 16:56 |
| th1a | I mean, does this cause a failing test? | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | we don't even test that | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | i mean, submitting bogus data | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | and checking if it's saved | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | even if we did (which i still think we don't) | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | the test would have to check the gradebook twice | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | because of the "lying" that's happening after submitting | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | hhmm maybe i can write a test for it :) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | and fix it ;) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | that would be in the scope of test fixing :P | 16:58 |
| th1a | Just file a high priority bug. | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:58 |
| th1a | Only fix bugs that are causing failing existing tests. | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:59 |
| th1a | We have to try to get the tests in a trustable form. | 16:59 |
| th1a | That's the big thing. | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | sure | 16:59 |
| th1a | Not "complete" just "ok, if I run this it will return some valid information." | 16:59 |
| th1a | Which is essentially not true now, correct? | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | correct | 16:59 |
| th1a | OK, so just try to stay focused on that. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:00 |
| th1a | We'll be entering the quiet part of the year now. | 17:01 |
| th1a | School's started or starting in much of the world. | 17:02 |
| th1a | People won't start thinking about next year's SIS for a few months... | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | ah good point | 17:02 |
| th1a | We had a long time to find 2.8.0 bugs. | 17:02 |
| th1a | I'd like to try to do the school page redesign in October. | 17:03 |
| th1a | So we're sure to get that in. | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | after ARK? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | oh btw | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | are we going to release on october? | 17:03 |
| th1a | Pretty much just for them, I'd think. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | so we'll start back on ARK on september 8th, correct? | 17:05 |
| th1a | That's the plan, but I haven't heard back from Sunesh yet. | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:06 |
| th1a | Of course, they like late Friday emails. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:06 |
| th1a | They tend to clear their inboxes Friday afternoon. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | it should be less of a problem for you now | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | you're like -4/5 hours | 17:06 |
| th1a | Doesn't screw up my Friday dinner preparation. ;-) | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:07 |
| th1a | The girls get out of school early on Friday this year as well. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:07 |
| th1a | OK, so ping me when you get the instance up. | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | will do | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | oh | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | i have a doctor's appoinment next tuesday 11:30 your time | 17:09 |
| th1a | OK. No problem. | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | i've lost 12 pounds in 6 weeks | 17:10 |
| th1a | Oh, GREAT. | 17:10 |
| th1a | That's good news. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | running helps :P | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | ok, setting instance up... | 17:10 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 17:11 |
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