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| th1a | replaceafill: if David is going to do school IT he's going to have to learn to step back from the bleeding edge. | 19:26 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, what do you mean? | 19:27 |
| th1a | Just using precise, etc. | 19:36 |
| th1a | Of course, you could say the same thing about SchoolTool... | 19:36 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 21:24 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 21:24 |
| th1a | I'm afraid I'm feeling less confident that the ARK guys know what they want. | 21:24 |
| replaceafill | fixing the export bug | 21:24 |
| replaceafill | i get the same feeling | 21:25 |
| th1a | Feeling a bit more like it is some guys in England trying to guess what teachers in Uganda need... | 21:25 |
| replaceafill | did they reply to your last email? | 21:26 |
| th1a | Not yet. | 21:26 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 21:26 |
| th1a | I don't understand why they completely have dodged the question of talking to their server. | 21:26 |
| th1a | I mean, there are a number of possible explanations... | 21:27 |
| replaceafill | maybe they need to talk to a tech guy? | 21:27 |
| th1a | They should be the tech guys... but maybe there are different departments. | 21:28 |
| replaceafill | right | 21:28 |
| th1a | Like the international foundation and the UK schools might be different organizations. | 21:29 |
| th1a | I think I may have to reverse engineer some Excel features. | 21:30 |
| th1a | I think the filtering and slicing they want may be coming from excel. | 21:30 |
| th1a | I mean, those terms didn't come out of thin air, so they have something specific in mind. | 21:31 |
| replaceafill | i watched a youtube video explaining "slicers" in excel | 21:31 |
| replaceafill | imho it's still filtering :) | 21:33 |
| th1a | Yeah. I can actually get a free Office setup from the university I think. | 21:33 |
| replaceafill | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4taBhc9ENQ | 21:34 |
| th1a | From a quick look, yeah, it isn't clear how these things are different. | 21:34 |
| th1a | But yeah, when people are like "yeah, we want ALL the data to go to the central server," then I wonder if they know what they need. | 21:35 |
| th1a | OTOH, they may end up being really happy I'm forcing them to ask these questions. | 21:36 |
| th1a | ask/answer | 21:36 |
| replaceafill | i think that's what we'll need to do | 21:37 |
| replaceafill | if they don't know what they want | 21:37 |
| replaceafill | narrow the scope | 21:37 |
| th1a | I guess the only real problem is that it might take longer than I originally thought. | 21:40 |
| th1a | Well, just for the reports, really. | 21:40 |
| th1a | And the server possible. | 21:40 |
| replaceafill | for me the API access thing is what worries me the most | 21:40 |
| replaceafill | i feel it's like not under our control | 21:41 |
| replaceafill | but we'll see :) | 21:41 |
| th1a | Access to their server. | 21:41 |
| replaceafill | i think of how long it took to get the virginia script straigth | 21:42 |
| replaceafill | the one for getting skills | 21:42 |
| th1a | Yeah, although that's super insane by any measure. | 21:43 |
| th1a | But yes, it could be a bit of a nightmare. | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | i was wondering | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | what do you think of designing a basci fee system? | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | like the one they want | 21:43 |
| th1a | What do I think of it? | 21:44 |
| replaceafill | i mean, in my free time | 21:44 |
| replaceafill | i know i'm busy fixing bugs :) | 21:44 |
| replaceafill | this weekend for instance | 21:44 |
| th1a | Well, I want to know a bit more about it. | 21:44 |
| th1a | You could get started. | 21:44 |
| th1a | Yeah, the basics won't change. | 21:44 |
| th1a | I'm certainly not going to stop you. | 21:45 |
| replaceafill | :) | 21:45 |
| th1a | The only thing I'm a bit afraid of is if we have to add systems to automatically charge for things like individual course enrollments. | 21:45 |
| th1a | Which is still not HARD. | 21:45 |
| th1a | But then you have like, ok, you added someone, they were charged, they were withdrawn, is there a certain withdrawl date after which you won't be charged... | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | but it's more complex than just saying Tom paid X on Y | 21:46 |
| th1a | Not necessarily | 21:46 |
| th1a | I have no idea how a school in Uganda handles it. | 21:46 |
| th1a | It might just be $150 a term. | 21:46 |
| th1a | Or they might be charging kids for pencils. | 21:46 |
| th1a | Who knows? | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | right | 21:47 |
| th1a | Perhaps the guys in London don't know. | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | categories! | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | for payments | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | i hadn't considered that :( | 21:47 |
| th1a | I mean, there is a reason we haven't just done it. | 21:48 |
| th1a | But still, if they have a system, it can't be THAT hard. | 21:48 |
| th1a | If we were trying to cover a bunch of cases and make a lot of guesses, I didn't even want to start that. | 21:49 |
| th1a | But if you want to set up debits and credits, invoices and reciepts, that's probably 80% of it. | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 21:52 |
| th1a | OK gotta put the girls to bed. | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | kk | 21:55 |
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