| replaceafill | but you can't do 3) with the importer, right? | 00:00 |
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| th1a | no | 00:01 |
| replaceafill | that's the reason for his request of "Remove all Displayed" | 00:01 |
| th1a | Yes... | 00:01 |
| th1a | Maybe we need a "really, just remove them" option in the new membership form. | 00:01 |
| replaceafill | yeah, yvl mentioned that at some point we'll need it :) | 00:01 |
| th1a | Well, already. | 00:02 |
| replaceafill | "delete" | 00:02 |
| th1a | If we can do that then 1 and 2 work, right? | 00:02 |
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| replaceafill | i'd still vote for exporting, start with a fresh db, import back | 00:03 |
| replaceafill | add the course worksheets | 00:03 |
| replaceafill | (not sure if they'd propagate correctly) | 00:03 |
| replaceafill | he's mentioned trying to hide things, which may be confusing imho | 00:04 |
| th1a | Yeah... | 00:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 00:04 |
| th1a | He doesn't have that much data in there. | 00:04 |
| replaceafill | something is really really wrong with the server | 00:05 |
| replaceafill | i'm going to reboot | 00:05 |
| th1a | It seems that way. | 00:05 |
| th1a | OK, so why don't you respond to him. | 00:05 |
| replaceafill | ok | 00:05 |
| th1a | OK, that's it for now then. | 00:05 |
| th1a | Talk to you tomorrow. | 00:06 |
| replaceafill | ok, see you th1a | 00:06 |
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| SP | hello | 10:01 |
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| sp | hello | 13:37 |
| th1a | hi sp | 13:40 |
| sp | i was wondering if you can help me. i have a few questions about school tool | 13:40 |
| th1a | I'll try. | 13:40 |
| sp | is it possible to mark students as left/dropped out? | 13:41 |
| th1a | That is coming in April. | 13:41 |
| sp | is there a work around removing them from a group or something? | 13:41 |
| th1a | You can remove them from the students group. | 13:42 |
| sp | ok. thanks. | 13:42 |
| sp | Also, is it possible to mark attendance for teachers? | 13:42 |
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| th1a | Not at this point. | 13:44 |
| sp | okay. is that in the pipeline or is there any sort of workaround? | 13:45 |
| sp | sorry, just to clarify, i mean marking a teacher as sick or absent | 13:45 |
| th1a | Yes. | 13:45 |
| th1a | Well... | 13:46 |
| th1a | In the April release you can set the status of a teacher to absent, but in implementation it would be fairly clunky. | 13:47 |
| sp | ok. thanks good to know. thanks for your help. | 13:47 |
| th1a | I'd call it a partial implementation. | 13:47 |
| th1a | You're welcome. | 13:47 |
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| th1a | hola yvl. | 18:23 |
| yvl | hey th1a :) | 18:24 |
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| th1a_iPhone | Just a sec ... | 22:02 |
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| th1a | hi menesis, replaceafill. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 22:13 |
| th1a | How are you doing? | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | i'm working on the changes for the transcript we discussed yesterday | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | hold on | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | some screenshots | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=294488 | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=294489 | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | unfortunately, the grids are designed for having just a single column | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | and then the rest of the grid | 22:17 |
| th1a | Oh... yeah... | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | so my question here | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | could we just hide/show the teacher name as we used to? | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | using parenthesis | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | next to the course title? | 22:18 |
| th1a | Well, not parentheses. | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | if you really want a separate column, it'll need more work | 22:18 |
| th1a | this isn't lisp | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:18 |
| th1a | A comma would be fine. | 22:18 |
| th1a | Baseball, Coach Hoffman | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | that'll make it easier | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'm still on that | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | i saw David wrote back | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | well, both Davids did :) | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | let's start with David Ally | 22:20 |
| th1a | Yeah, I guess we need to package that up for him... | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | ok, so no sandboxes for him, right? | 22:21 |
| th1a | They're really going to deploy this. | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | packages it is | 22:22 |
| th1a | Can we make the deb through LP fairly easily? | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | no idea | 22:23 |
| th1a | lol | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i've never done it :) | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i guess that's one of LPs features, right? :D | 22:23 |
| th1a | Looking at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | i know we could do it, i'm just not sure about the "fairly easily" part... | 22:25 |
| th1a | I was thinking that it would be more automatic... | 22:25 |
| th1a | hrml | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | want me to try? | 22:25 |
| th1a | http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html | 22:25 |
| th1a | Keep in mind this isn't going into ubuntu ever. | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | sure | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | a PPA is all we need, right? | 22:26 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll give it a shot | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | the other David | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | the course report sheets report | 22:26 |
| th1a | Also, hopefully if we just have schooltool as the dependency, that'll pull everything else. | 22:26 |
| th1a | Yes. | 22:26 |
| th1a | As you saw at this point I think a custom report is easiest. | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | right | 22:27 |
| th1a | Otherwise this could go on forever. | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | but what's his course/section/sheets setup? | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | that's no in any email, right? | 22:28 |
| th1a | We've not finalized that, but I think he's pretty clear on what he needs. | 22:28 |
| th1a | You don't have enough to start. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | just checking | 22:28 |
| th1a | I mean, we could probably piece it together if necessary. | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | don't you think asking for the DB would be faster? | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | i know, i know | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | it should be the last option, etc | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | but i mean | 22:30 |
| th1a | Faster for what? | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | for knowing his setup | 22:31 |
| th1a | Making the report or re-jiggering. | 22:31 |
| replaceafill | his *current* setup | 22:31 |
| replaceafill | no, making the report | 22:31 |
| th1a | I would say we need to make him do the work. | 22:31 |
| th1a | What do we need to know? | 22:31 |
| replaceafill | how are the activities stored, basically | 22:32 |
| th1a | The course id's we're pulling from, what he wants the headers to be. | 22:32 |
| th1a | We're kind of mapping it for him though. | 22:32 |
| th1a | Isn't that the issue? | 22:32 |
| th1a | Have him draw it, label the parts with the course and activity id's? | 22:32 |
| replaceafill | ok, are the grades coming from a regular worksheet? | 22:33 |
| th1a | course worksheet I thought. | 22:34 |
| th1a | It is mainly that he's labeled everything differently I thought. | 22:34 |
| th1a | Well, maybe it is organized differently... | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | that's my point | 22:34 |
| th1a | Well, let's not sit around guessing. | 22:34 |
| th1a | he already did that mockup. | 22:35 |
| th1a | And is willing to put in the work, so we just need him to do it. | 22:35 |
| th1a | what does he need where? | 22:35 |
| th1a | I'll ask. | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:35 |
| th1a | We should probably just ask for the db as well. | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | imho, if he has the data already in | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | and he knows the layout he wants | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | it becomes "give me a db and i'll give you the report" | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | kind of thing | 22:37 |
| th1a | Yeah... | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | you want a new "row" under Physica Education | 22:37 |
| th1a | Well, it'll be fine. | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | i'll know where Physical Education should be coming from | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | "oh Swiming is a section"... and so on... | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | it'll save a lots of emails | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | again, not the way we should design software :D | 22:38 |
| th1a | Yeah, ok. | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:38 |
| th1a | We're not designing software, we're writing a report. ;-) | 22:38 |
| th1a | For free. | 22:38 |
| th1a | Although this is partly to help decide how much to charge for this. | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | yesterday... you said reports need plumbing! | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | that's design ;) | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | ah | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:39 |
| th1a | It would be a good thing to have a standard fee for this service, since it isn't really affected that much by size, etc. | 22:39 |
| th1a | Custom report card: $500 per side. | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | hhmm, in that case | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | we should try making him explain the set up | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | i didn't know that was a goal | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | (finding this out) | 22:40 |
| th1a | Well, also saving OUR time is a goal. | 22:41 |
| th1a | Ok, moving on... | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:41 |
| * replaceafill done | 22:42 | |
| th1a | OK, so I guess continue with what's in your queue, and I'll email DP. | 22:43 |
| th1a | Oh, and package David Ally's stuff. | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | on it | 22:44 |
| th1a | Oh... and do you think you should just strip down or wipe the demo server? | 22:44 |
| th1a | It wouldn't be an immediate priority. | 22:44 |
| replaceafill | i thought we were doing it in august? | 22:44 |
| th1a | No, the one that seems to be working poorly. | 22:44 |
| replaceafill | that's dev.schooltool.org | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | the VPS you got for us to show you changes and stuff | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | i've been throwing most demos there | 22:45 |
| th1a | Yeah, I meant "the server with the demos" ;-) | 22:46 |
| th1a | You can take down the ones for Gladstone. | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | that's on the sielibre server | 22:47 |
| th1a | OK, well, anyhow... | 22:47 |
| th1a | dev.schooltool.org will need to be sorted because we don't want a bunch of demos that are constantly falling over. | 22:48 |
| th1a | Which is the current situation, right? | 22:48 |
| replaceafill | the real problem is that since they are *demos* | 22:48 |
| replaceafill | i don't configure init.d services, etc | 22:49 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:49 |
| replaceafill | when the server is rebooted those demos go down | 22:49 |
| th1a | OK, so at some point we need to deal with making those a little formal. | 22:50 |
| th1a | *a little* | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | we have some formal ones | 22:50 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | telly's for example | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | chandara | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | those are well set up | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | *NOT USED* i think... | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | but well set up :D | 22:50 |
| th1a | We should probably turn those off. | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | DP's instance will become irrelevant at some point | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | David Ally's too | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:52 |
| * replaceafill goes to read LP | 22:52 | |
| th1a | OK. ;-) | 22:52 |
| th1a | I'll let you go. | 22:52 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 22:52 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 22:52 | |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 22:52 |
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