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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 22:01 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 22:01 |
| th1a | OK, I wrote three difficult paragraphs describing homeroom attendance, which I'd been avoiding. | 22:03 |
| th1a | Still... not as much as I should have written. | 22:03 |
| th1a | I think you should require a follow up report on Friday. | 22:04 |
| th1a | replaceafill has to become my documentation dominatrix. | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | sure, let's meet on friday | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | it's an investment th1a | 22:04 |
| th1a | Well, I'm going out Friday evening, I'll send you an email. | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | i'm sure you know that :) | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:04 |
| th1a | It is easy to procrastinate. | 22:05 |
| th1a | I'll push some changes Friday. | 22:05 |
| replaceafill | good | 22:05 |
| th1a | I exchanged a couple emails with David Ally today. bcc:ed you on the last one. | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:06 |
| th1a | It is exasperating. | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | anything good in the plans he mentions? | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | "Please find attached the report and the draft plan for rolling out the project" | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | i assume no, based on your replies :) | 22:07 |
| th1a | Well, he wants it running in February. | 22:08 |
| th1a | But no, not enough detail. I don't even understand what the moving parts are technically. | 22:08 |
| th1a | Well, the good part is that nobody probably expects anything to happen on time anyhow. | 22:09 |
| th1a | So, I'll keep you posted on that. | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | cool thanks | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | i hope we get somewhere with him, someday... | 22:10 |
| th1a | I had to take a picture of my signature and fiddle with it to paste it into my letter for Dave... | 22:10 |
| th1a | You're getting the full report. ;-) | 22:10 |
| th1a | Waiting for an updated invoice from PoV... | 22:10 |
| th1a | I hope we can get some bug-producing Chinese characters from that guy who updated his question today. | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | oh | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | i need to read all that thread | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | haven't been following close enough | 22:11 |
| th1a | It is about ready to be converted into a couple bugs. | 22:12 |
| th1a | Unfortunately, another timetable bug. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | :( | 22:13 |
| th1a | Maybe we'll just rip all that out... | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | timetables? | 22:14 |
| th1a | It is a Lithuanian developers' full employment program. | 22:14 |
| th1a | I'm not really serious. | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | phew | 22:15 |
| th1a | Although I wish we could rip out timezones for sure. | 22:15 |
| th1a | OK, anyhow, yes, what have you been up to replaceafill? | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | i added URI caching to cando and interventions | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | copied the ACC db and evolved it | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | it worked | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | although | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | it took 2 hours | 22:17 |
| th1a | That's a performance change? | 22:17 |
| th1a | I mean, the point of that change is performance? | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | it's something yvl did for core | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | i just put it in the plugins | 22:18 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | but it's not the caching part what takes time | 22:19 |
| th1a | Does the evolution eat memory? | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | it's changing the relationships | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | not enough to swap | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | it's not like our previous cando evolve nightmare for sure | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | just slow i guess | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ACC has 11k students | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | lots of relationship links to be updated | 22:20 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:20 |
| th1a | Slow doesn't bother me so much. | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | sure | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | so i also started updating the selenium extensions | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | and i wonder | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | should we "update" the relationship views? | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | for example, in a group | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | you have Current Members, right? | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | but now | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | you can't "remove" people from the group | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | i mean, visually, the view gets into a weird state imho | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | person with state "Removed" under "Current Members"... | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | maybe it's just me :) | 22:22 |
| th1a | Well... | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | also | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | the (+) button | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | when you add someone individually | 22:23 |
| th1a | Here's the thing, those views were a real disaster after flourish anyhow. | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | asks you for the state and date, right? | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | but "Add all displayed" adds them all without asking anything | 22:23 |
| th1a | Essentially I haven't reviewed those views. | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | you should soon | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | and we should decide | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | if we want to do something with them | 22:24 |
| th1a | yvl is not good about pointing things out to me and I'm not good at making myself to it. | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | well | 22:24 |
| th1a | Well... how would you feel about going back to checkboxes. | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | i also think, that since menesis won't be around much, QA is you and me | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | and you know | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | i'm good at saying "this is weird" | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | but i'm not deciding if that's on purpose or not... | 22:25 |
| th1a | Fixing that view for real might be better than, say, trying to squeeze in parent access. | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | checkboxes seem like the right thing to me | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | th1a, +1 | 22:26 |
| th1a | You and I are much better at walking through things together, which is really the only thing that works | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | i think we should identify all these annoyances (if that's a word), RECORD THEM (as in writing down) | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | and decide what to insert in these 5 weeks | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking of using the HILT instance and jelkner for testing the relationships change | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | but i'm not sure if that's cruel | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | i know jelkner is alwasy willing to "bleed" | 22:28 |
| th1a | Cleaning up temporal relationships should be the top priority if we're going to include them in the release. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | i think it's doable | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | including cleaning the view | 22:29 |
| th1a | I think so. | 22:29 |
| th1a | We want: | 22:30 |
| th1a | * temporal relationships | 22:30 |
| th1a | * transcripts | 22:30 |
| th1a | * async imports | 22:30 |
| th1a | maybe | 22:30 |
| th1a | * parent access | 22:30 |
| th1a | Am I forgetting anything? | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 22:31 |
| th1a | I'd say in that order. | 22:31 |
| th1a | (of priority) | 22:31 |
| replaceafill | i've prioritized them as: 1. temporal, 2. imports, 3 transcript | 22:31 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:32 |
| replaceafill | it's just that imports are in core | 22:32 |
| replaceafill | and they get in the way (in tests) | 22:32 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | anyhow | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | i also fixed the bug that was hitting the HILT quiz instance | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | it was about handling duplicated skills in a vocabulary | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | which i fixed making the values of the terms more "unique" | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | so, when should we check the views? | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | relationship views? | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | we should also review the default states for everything? | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | not default sorry | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | i meant the state values | 22:35 |
| th1a | If you have an example we could hangout and screen share right now. | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | i don't :( | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | i can set up one for tomorrow morning? | 22:36 |
| th1a | Just a sec. | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | on sielibre news: i updated the text you sent | 22:37 |
| th1a | What time then? Old meeting time? | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | i mean, i updated the website WITH the text you sent ;) | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | sure | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | old meeting time works for me | 22:38 |
| th1a | OK, so... that was 1:30 my time? | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | i think so yes | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | is there a website to compare times in two different places... | 22:39 |
| th1a | dateandtime.com | 22:40 |
| th1a | no... | 22:40 |
| th1a | timeanddate.com? | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | can you compare? | 22:40 |
| th1a | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | :| | 22:41 |
| th1a | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20140115&p1=90&p2=228 | 22:41 |
| th1a | So... 7:30 for you. | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | i've been sleeping 1 hour more this week ;) | 22:41 |
| th1a | Good. | 22:42 |
| th1a | OK., so we'll hangout tomorrow. | 22:42 |
| replaceafill | cool | 22:42 |
| th1a | OK, see you then. | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | see you tomorrow | 22:43 |
| th1a | thanks replaceafill. | 22:43 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 22:43 | |
| th1a | I'll have a few more paragraphs written... really! | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:44 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to finally scratch my itch with the translatable book tonight | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | hope i get it | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | at least i'll create a branch for it | 22:45 |
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