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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 18:04 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 18:04 |
| th1a | So... what's jelkner worried about? | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | basically he wants to create a new section for his course | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | to move some students there | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | but he was expecting the cando evaluations would appear in the new section | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | and they don't | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | because of section skills | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | so if you have two sections of the same course | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | their skills are different from the evaluations point of view | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | that's a bug to him | 18:09 |
| th1a | It is the same course? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:09 |
| th1a | I wish jelkner would try explaining his problem instead of jumping to the solution. | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | what's not clear about the problem? | 18:11 |
| th1a | Why does he need to create a new section? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | because he wants to give different quizzes to some advanced students | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | quizzes are "given" (deployed) by section | 18:12 |
| th1a | Aren't they in some kind of sequence anyhow? | 18:12 |
| th1a | Why not add more advanced quizzes to the same section? | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | because he says "not advanced" students feel overwhelmed | 18:13 |
| th1a | Why? | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | because they'd need to take the advanced quizzes, failing on them which affects their cando (skills) scores | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | i think he already tried doing it | 18:14 |
| th1a | Does everyone have to take all the quizzes? There isn't a sequence? | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | and that's when he identified "the problem" | 18:15 |
| th1a | Well, he's mis-identified it. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i agree | 18:15 |
| th1a | It is a usability problem in quiz. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | we'd need to solve it in the quiz side in my opinion | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | he wants a workaround | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i fully agree | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | and no | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | there's no sequence in quiz | 18:16 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | everybody in the section takes the quizzes | 18:16 |
| th1a | OK... | 18:17 |
| th1a | We probably do need to improve some of the student views in CanDo to make it easy for kids to see their achievement across sections/courses. | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | leaving quiz aside, what do you think of his bug? | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | i mean, it looks like a valid use case? | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | student moving from one section to another in the same course | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | and losing his cando evaluations | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | sorry | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | not losing | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | losing isn't the right word | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | since they're safe | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | they just can't see them anymore | 18:20 |
| th1a | ...back | 18:23 |
| th1a | That's what I was saying -- the student probably needs a better overall view. | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | got it | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | th1a, that quiz sequence idea sounds nice... :) | 18:30 |
| th1a | I don't know how it would work at all without a sequence! | 18:31 |
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| basic` | hi there, where is the sample data for schooltool? | 23:32 |
| th1a | Hi basic`. | 23:50 |
| basic` | hi th1a | 23:50 |
| basic` | i found the filename, i think, large_sample_data.xls ? | 23:50 |
| th1a | Yeah, or there is a smaller one. | 23:50 |
| basic` | but i cannot find ... oh i found it | 23:50 |
| basic` | /usr/share/pyshared/schooltool/export | 23:50 |
| th1a | You can also just download it via the XLS import page on your server. | 23:52 |
| basic` | oh there's a link, odd, i didn't see that before | 23:52 |
| basic` | my own fault :-) | 23:53 |
| basic` | thanks th1a, about to demo this to someone | 23:53 |
| basic` | having sample data will help a lot | 23:53 |
| th1a | Indeed! | 23:53 |
| basic` | th1a: one more question, and probably my own fault for not doing any due diligence yet... | 23:57 |
| basic` | th1a: is it possible to span schooltool across multiple servers for high availability, with nfs or mysql for the data store? | 23:58 |
| basic` | or postgres | 23:58 |
| th1a | We're tied to the ZODB, I'm afraid, but you can use ZEO for multiple servers. | 23:58 |
| th1a | It is enabled by default now, actually. | 23:59 |
| basic` | i'm not familiar with zope really... last time i touched it was trac 0.11 | 23:59 |
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