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| th1a | hi menesis, replaceafill. | 16:30 |
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| replaceafill | good afternoon | 16:31 |
| menesis | hi | 16:32 |
| th1a | OK, we're settled into the flat that will be our home for the next 11 months. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Good connectivity, good desk. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Generally better environment for everyone's sanity and my productivity. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Go ahead, replaceafill. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent you an email requesting some wording | 16:35 |
| th1a | We can go over that in a bit. | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | i finished the changes to the deprecate view | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | added the __name__ attribute to the catalogs | 16:37 |
| th1a | It looks clearer. | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | so "All fields" now looks in the ID too | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | and removed the Add -> Node option from deprecate | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | i've also updated some of the stests for cando | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | and noticed that the autocomplete dropdown makes some of the test fail | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | th1a, so, what's next? | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | back to the report card? | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | names change? | 16:40 |
| th1a | Report card then names I'd say. | 16:40 |
| th1a | How long do you think the names will take? | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | a couple of days maybe | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | changing the gradebook is the most difficult part imho | 16:41 |
| th1a | Well, the report card is more open ended. | 16:42 |
| th1a | Maybe it would be better to do the names change first just to get it out of the way and then pretty much work on the report cards (and bugs) until we run out of time. | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah ok | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | yeah, that makes sense | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll start with that | 16:44 |
| * replaceafill done | 16:44 | |
| th1a | OK. | 16:44 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 16:44 |
| th1a | menesis? | 16:44 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Send me your invoice. | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah ok | 16:45 |
| menesis | Last week I got a new computer, needed a few days for migration | 16:45 |
| menesis | Fixed a few small bugs | 16:46 |
| menesis | one javascript error in download report dialog | 16:46 |
| menesis | although I didn't see any ill effects | 16:47 |
| menesis | and journal scoresystems did not work for me | 16:47 |
| menesis | because I had a database upgraded in the middle of development | 16:47 |
| menesis | also I got annoyed by email every hour from root@schooltool | 16:48 |
| menesis | tried to track down what was causing it | 16:48 |
| menesis | turned out it was the old server | 16:49 |
| th1a | I was wondering! | 16:49 |
| menesis | fixed the hostname issue (I hope), removed some servers so it is more quiet | 16:49 |
| menesis | tried to restart networking and it didn't come back up :( | 16:50 |
| menesis | so I can't access it now | 16:51 |
| menesis | but the problem of it sending mail is "solved" | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. We are talking about the old serverpronto, right? | 16:51 |
| menesis | yes | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:53 |
| menesis | also, looked at the fixed bugs and marked them as done in correct milestones | 16:53 |
| menesis | so only a few small things done last week | 16:54 |
| menesis | now I am looking at failing tests | 16:55 |
| menesis | and thinking to do a beta release because quite a few bugfixes have accumulated | 16:55 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:56 |
| th1a | Once replaceafill checks in the deprecation changes. | 16:56 |
| menesis | journal scoresystems are not translatable, working on that | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | they're all in trunk, we just need to remove the XXXs | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:57 |
| th1a | So we'll be ready shortly. | 16:57 |
| menesis | yes | 16:58 |
| * menesis done | 16:58 | |
| th1a | OK. Thanks menesis. | 16:59 |
| th1a | I need to start writing documentation tomorrow. | 16:59 |
| th1a | MUST WRITE DOCUMENTATION. | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | :D | 16:59 |
| th1a | I am feeling more able to concentrate finally. | 17:00 |
| th1a | Speaking of which, let's look at these strings. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Thanks guys! | 17:01 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:01 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:01 |
| th1a | OK, so main page. | 17:03 |
| th1a | Deprecate. | 17:03 |
| th1a | Is it difficult or annoying to move the deprecate all checkbox? | 17:04 |
| th1a | I don't really like it in the header. | 17:04 |
| th1a | Or... it at least it needs some additional explanation. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | where should we put it? | 17:04 |
| th1a | Could we put some text above the table, like: | 17:05 |
| th1a | "Select items to deprecate" | 17:06 |
| th1a | And then "Select/deselect all" | 17:06 |
| th1a | I've been conditioned to regard adding a line of text to a web page to be potentially difficult. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | Select / Deselect All should be buttons? | 17:08 |
| th1a | As a checkbox it acts immediately? | 17:09 |
| th1a | I'm just looking at your screenshot. | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:10 |
| th1a | Leaving it as a checkbox is fine. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Or, I guess just select all would make more sense. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Because it isn't a button. | 17:10 |
| th1a | That is it shouldn't say Deselect if it is a checkbox. | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | so you want it to be similar to: | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=270349 | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | Copy courses from active year? | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | above the table | 17:12 |
| th1a | Yes... although the checkbox could be aligned better. | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | gmail uses a tooltip on the select all checkbox | 17:16 |
| * th1a looks at his inbox. | 17:16 | |
| th1a | Well... it is completely different. | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 17:17 |
| th1a | Are you using the old interface or something? | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | no, the new one | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | but yes, it's very different functionality | 17:18 |
| th1a | I think "The changes were saved successfully." is fine. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | hhmm moving the JS to select all is going to be tricky | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | because it depends on the checkbox being in the same table | 17:25 |
| th1a | Wait. | 17:25 |
| th1a | What does it do now then? | 17:25 |
| th1a | I'm just looking at your screenshot... | 17:25 |
| th1a | Oh, you mean moving it out of the table. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Sorry. | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | it just marks all the checkboxes | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:26 |
| th1a | Well, that's what I was saying. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Can we just put the note next to it in the header? | 17:26 |
| th1a | I don't want to go on a wild goose chase. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | i'd just remove the Deprecated word | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | leaving the checkbox alone | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | in the column header | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | let me add the text | 17:30 |
| th1a | Ah... I guess that might be sufficient. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Can you move it to the first column instead of the last? | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | way better imho: | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=270355 | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | after all, we are in the *deprecate* view! | 17:35 |
| th1a | Yes, esp. with some text. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | hhmm the "Select items to deprecate" is not appearing... | 17:36 |
| th1a | Probably H2 or H3. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | ooops, i registered the viewlet incorrectly :P | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=270356 | 17:38 |
| th1a | I don't suppose you can make it a little closer below. | 17:40 |
| th1a | Probably not... | 17:40 |
| th1a | Closer to the table. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | i noticed the same | 17:40 |
| th1a | Also, put a colon at the end. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | it's the style on the "no-batch" css | 17:40 |
| th1a | It is built into the style probably. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=270357 | 17:42 |
| th1a | Better. | 17:43 |
| th1a | OK. Done then. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:43 |
| th1a | Thank you replaceafill. | 17:43 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, you around? | 22:18 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | did you see David's latest email? | 22:54 |
| th1a | Yes. | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | we have this subscriber | 22:54 |
| th1a | I'm hoping it is a simple fix. | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | that updates the course/section skills based on changes to attributes in the global ones | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | but it's changing three attributes i'm not sure we should change: | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | required, retired and scoresystem | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | retired is the one bitting us in dwelsh bug | 22:55 |
| th1a | Oh, shit. OK, I see. | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | imho changing the global skill should not change any of those 3 | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | for retired/required the user has a view for customizing them at the course level | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | changing the course level should cascade | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | but the score system...? | 22:56 |
| th1a | Well, why aren't the skills showing up? | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | that's a can of worms imho | 22:56 |
| th1a | Let's jump to the immediate problem first. | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | sure | 22:56 |
| replaceafill | when dwelsh deprecates 2012 skills | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | all the courses pick the changes | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | i mean, 2012 courses | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | because they're using the same subscriber | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | i've identified a way to "skip" it for global changes | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | and just modify section skills when the course skill change | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | i'm testing it right now | 22:58 |
| th1a | But in the end the gradebook is filtering out the deprecated skills, right? | 22:58 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:58 |
| replaceafill | so the change in deprecated goes from global -> course -> section skill | 22:58 |
| th1a | I guess it is actually a useful feature to have the deprecation not propogate down to the course and section. | 22:59 |
| replaceafill | i think it's ok to cascade title, labels, description | 22:59 |
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| th1a | Basically different people will expect different behaviors there. | 23:00 |
| replaceafill | true | 23:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a, it worked | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | when i deprecate global ones, the gradebook is still available | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | what about the required and score_system attributes? | 23:22 |
| th1a | I don't think those changes should propogate. | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | ok | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | so i'll ignore the three from global changes | 23:23 |
| th1a | That seems safe and reasonable. | 23:54 |
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